2019 Mazda 3 BP

[travajante]

Sales figures & relative values sometimes don't make sense. I recall the mid90's when the gen2 Pajeros outsold the pricier LC80s here. We know which was better of the 2.

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[vinrem]

Ma check ko nga dito, may unit na naka display sa CASA, nakita ko nag post ang isang SA.

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[StockEngine]

Sales figures & relative values sometimes don't make sense. I recall the mid90's when the gen2 Pajeros outsold the pricier LC80s here. We know which was better of the 2.

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only mazda went downside 30ish percent.. mazda3 and mazdacx5 lol. they went upscale in sales.

[travajante]

only mazda went downside 30ish percent.. mazda3 and mazdacx5 lol. they went upscale in sales.

In Oz, price-driven. It chose the uphill path, markets never like hikes. Ours, no different.

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[Archerfish]

What's the big idea of changing the font?!?





I can't imagine the same on Mazda 6! If I may use a kind word for it, it looks ridiculous.

[Egan101]

Para font lang, big deal ba?


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[jut703]

Sales figures & relative values sometimes don't make sense. I recall the mid90's when the gen2 Pajeros outsold the pricier LC80s here. We know which was better of the 2.

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Pajeros were also cheaper than LCs then, as they are now. There were no cheaper midsize SUV options, so the Pajero and Patrol were basically the entry level choices (no, the Terrano doesn't count).

Para font lang, big deal ba?


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It does look more amateur than the fonts of previous Mazda 3s. In my world, fonts make a very big difference in presentation and aesthetics.

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[Archerfish]

It does look more amateur than the fonts of previous Mazda 3s. In my world, fonts make a very big difference in presentation and aesthetics.

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You are very kind for using that term, amateur. It really looks cheap, particularly that SKYACTIV sticker.

I didn't get what those guys were saying on this forum until I have seen it.



If I wasn't aware of the previous design, then perhaps I won't notice it. Anyways, removing the badge is the solution for it.

Of course, I won't be buying one so this isn't an issue for me.
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[travajante]

Pajeros were also cheaper than LCs then, as they are now. There were no cheaper midsize SUV options, so the Pajero and Patrol were basically the entry level choices (no, the Terrano doesn't count).It does look more amateur than the fonts of previous Mazda 3s. In my world, fonts make a very big difference in presentation and aesthetics.

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I recall those days. The gen2 Pajero wasn't only cheaper, it had features never before seen on any of the locally distributed utes. SuperSelect shift-on-fly 4x4. Everything was fresh except the engine. Mitsubishi gave Ph the 4D56, instead of the 4M40.
The 80 was the old basic truck...manual diff lock, nothing new. The headunit was a doubleDIN w/ a cassette player. Again, basic, classic or typical Toyota.
The Safari was a cruiser copy, a much fuglier toad version, though.
All that, one laughed at the P400k or so difference between the LC & the Pajero. This was the 90s before the crash when our currency held midtwennies to the greenback. 400k was a significant amount.
Still, last laugh came from the small LC crowd....Reliability sold cars & held value. The ute market was initially drawn & blinded by both price/feature diff....slow to appreciate the 80's soul & real value. Those who missed out went for the 100s. Them new 100s did not draw 80 owners. Both had the same engine, the 100 ditched the rigid front axle, which everyone loved, for a beefed up Torsion. (Toyota did submit to the clamor with the 105 that never officially reached our shores).
See the parallels? Same engine, suspension revisions, refinements....Much like the 100 to 80ers, the BM/BNs owners may not be the BP's market....the latter is much pricier everywhere.
And... it doesn't have anything to do w/ the new FONT. Me? Old or new, I'd debadge anyway.[emoji16]


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[jut703]

I recall those days. The gen2 Pajero wasn't only cheaper, it had features never before seen on any of the locally distributed utes. SuperSelect shift-on-fly 4x4. Everything was fresh except the engine. Mitsubishi gave Ph the 4D56, instead of the 4M40.
The 80 was the old basic truck...manual diff lock, nothing new. The headunit was a doubleDIN w/ a cassette player. Again, basic, classic or typical Toyota.
The Safari was a cruiser copy, a much fuglier toad version, though.
All that, one laughed at the P400k or so difference between the LC & the Pajero. This was the 90s before the crash when our currency held midtwennies to the greenback. 400k was a significant amount.
Still, last laugh came from the small LC crowd....Reliability sold cars & held value. The ute market was initially drawn & blinded by both price/feature diff....slow to appreciate the 80's soul & real value. Those who missed out went for the 100s. Them new 100s did not draw 80 owners. Both had the same engine, the 100 ditched the rigid front axle, which everyone loved, for a beefed up Torsion. (Toyota did submit to the clamor with the 105 that never officially reached our shores).
See the parallels? Same engine, suspension revisions, refinements....Much like the 100 to 80ers, the BM/BNs owners may not be the BP's market....the latter is much pricier everywhere.
And... it doesn't have anything to do w/ the new FONT. Me? Old or new, I'd debadge anyway.[emoji16]


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Ang katapat ng Pajero, yung Prado. Not the LC. Same as today.

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[travajante]

Ang katapat ng Pajero, yung Prado. Not the LC. Same as today.

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The 90 was released later than the 80 here. The price was between the latter & the Pajero. Gray market petrol Prados were better optioned & that did not help the PhDM 90 reception.

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[vinrem]

Price of the Mazda 3 sedan in China starts at 125,900RMB for the lowest variant to 178,900RMB for the totl variant, price are sticker price, di pa kasama road tax, insurance, car registrations...siguro add pa ng 20k-25k sa mga sticker price.

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[stealthfighter]

In my opinion, the huge bump on the price tag for the 1.5L base model is not worth it. If it comes with the Bose speaker and leather seats, probably. You can get a much better audio package with Mickey's Audiosound at a not-so-expensive pricetag. What I do like about the base model is that it comes with a complete seat of airbags but that's about it [emoji23]

Somehow my excitement for the new Mazda3 waned after seeing it. It didn't give me that wow factor compared to new Toyota Corollla (especially the hatchback). Better wait for the updated version after 2 years.

I've been dreaming of owning this car for months. But after seeing the 1.295M price tag for the base model, I woke up from the dream.

[vinrem]

I've been dreaming of owning this car for months. But after seeing the 1.295M price tag for the base model, I woke up from the dream.

Now it's not a dream, it's a nightmare hehehe

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[hardwang]

I visited Mazda again to ask for an update for the parts I ordered and I saw another Mazda 3. The 1.5L variant. I was surprised it had leather seats. Checked the dials again, ok naman. Solid feeling. Baka early batch yung 2.0L na tinignan ko na maluwag yung dials. It’s still expensive for what you’re getting though.

[TheUninvited]

I visited Mazda again to ask for an update for the parts I ordered and I saw another Mazda 3. The 1.5L variant. I was surprised it had leather seats. Checked the dials again, ok naman. Solid feeling. Baka early batch yung 2.0L na tinignan ko na maluwag yung dials. It’s still expensive for what you’re getting though.

Actually ok yung features nung base variant.

The really big problem is the engine, not saying it's bad, but at 1.3M nga, they should have gone with 2.0L and 2.5L for the 1.6M totl.

I think at this point in time, given na na mahal na ang cars, with the Corolla, Civic, 3, Forte, etc. topping out at around 1.6M - for the same amount, you'll get a class higher, 5-10 years ago?

At least justify the cost man lang.. really tough times for us lower class.

[Archerfish]

Actually ok yung features nung base variant.

The really big problem is the engine, not saying it's bad, but at 1.3M nga, they should have gone with 2.0L and 2.5L for the 1.6M totl.

I think at this point in time, given na na mahal na ang cars, with the Corolla, Civic, 3, Forte, etc. topping out at around 1.6M - for the same amount, you'll get a class higher, 5-10 years ago?

At least justify the cost man lang.. really tough times for us lower class.

I was told by the lead technician from Mazda that at first, he thinks it is overpriced. However, he later said that the price is "justified" once he learned the improvements.

In their seminar, it was said that even the tires are specifically designed for it. That is, the particular brand and type of tire is fitted for that particular model has their own research study.

I'm not saying that other tire brands won't fit, but the particular type won't give the "same improvement" as designed allegedly.

And this is just one of them...

[chronicle]

^
So it would be unKodo like if you change something on the car. Even just a tiny bit?

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[Archerfish]

. I was surprised it had leather seats. . .

I took a look and what's inside is almost similar to what you'll see on the 2017-2018 model of Mazda 6. I'm a bit "envious" of the 360 camera.

[Archerfish]

^
So it would be unKodo like if you change something on the car. Even just a tiny bit?

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That I cannot say...

There is even a rubber on the lid of the trunk. It is said that it is to reduce noise and/or improve aerodynamics.

However, that tire is somehow "questionable" for me. We know that some people like to replace their rims a bit larger than the stock one. I wonder what will happen if ever.