Isuzu Dmax Owners [continued]

[Ry_Tower]

Ung toyota fortuner ni erpat, napansin din namin na kapag bumibirit sya ang itim ng usok. Sabi nya baka daw "nilargahan" sa casa. I dont know what he means by that. Ibabalik nya daw ulit para i-check. Nabasa ko ngayon ang discussion dito, ibig sabihin turbo agad ang may sira sa fortuner ni erpat?

Not necessary sir. Marami kasi possible cause eh. Puwede dirty/clogged air filter lang or yung nga IP, or nozzle and may problem. A tune-up would be nice as well.

[hinDMaxsiado]

Hehe. Ayoko ko nang gastusan itong ride ko kasi balak kong i-dispose pag labas nung next gen D-Max.

Haha! ....Nagbibiro lang naman ako bosing

Alam mo naman ano pinagkaiba ng puting usok sa black na usok noh sir sa diesel? ;)

Check mo lang ng maigi, kahit during warming it up sa garahe mo, pa-birit mo lang ang silinyador while you at the back is observing ang nature ng usok.... Pag EXCESSIVE na puti, malamang gasket seal problem at ipa-check mo na kaagad yan. Nahahalo din ang coolant sa makina pag ganyan. Walang pinagkaiba yan sa mga nae-experience namin sa mga dirtbikes namin (either ring seal or gasket problem), same banana, nahahalo ang coolant, at top-end rebuild gagawin namin pag ganyan. Puede din palit lang kami ng gasket pero titignan pa din hehe....

Ang DMax 3.0 TD Intercooler 4JH1-TC naman namin, so far so good pa rin.... Lagare ito Pangasinan-Bocaue-Quezon City over the last 7 years. Pero alaga sa maintenance at since after ng break-in niya, puros fully-synthetic engine oil na ginagamit namin. Particular din ako sa air filter, pag paper-type OEM gamit ko, every 5000 to 10,000 km lang palit na kahit puede pa. Hindi na rin ako nagpapa-pressure blow ng air filter, nananaliksik lang ang dumi in-between ng mga papel.

[HUMANHORDE]

hehehehehehehehehe

Ung toyota fortuner ni erpat, napansin din namin na kapag bumibirit sya ang itim ng usok. Sabi nya baka daw "nilargahan" sa casa. I dont know what he means by that. Ibabalik nya daw ulit para i-check. Nabasa ko ngayon ang discussion dito, ibig sabihin turbo agad ang may sira sa fortuner ni erpat?

[isketi]

mausok but the power is still the same? what color is the smoke? dark blue, black or white?

No change in power sir ARB but the fuel consumption increased. Smoke is black. I just had a change oil, replaced all filters (oil, air, fuel) and had the valve clearances checked & adjusted.

I also noticed that the exhaust fumes have a stronger odor lately. I was thinking that maybe there was an exhaust leak but upon inspection at a muffler shop, they didn't find any leakage.

[isketi]

Haha! ....Nagbibiro lang naman ako bosing

Alam mo naman ano pinagkaiba ng puting usok sa black na usok noh sir sa diesel? ;)

Check mo lang ng maigi, kahit during warming it up sa garahe mo, pa-birit mo lang ang silinyador while you at the back is observing ang nature ng usok.... Pag EXCESSIVE na puti, malamang gasket seal problem at ipa-check mo na kaagad yan. Nahahalo din ang coolant sa makina pag ganyan. Walang pinagkaiba yan sa mga nae-experience namin sa mga dirtbikes namin (either ring seal or gasket problem), same banana, nahahalo ang coolant, at top-end rebuild gagawin namin pag ganyan. Puede din palit lang kami ng gasket pero titignan pa din hehe....

Ang DMax 3.0 TD Intercooler 4JH1-TC naman namin, so far so good pa rin.... Lagare ito Pangasinan-Bocaue-Quezon City over the last 7 years. Pero alaga sa maintenance at since after ng break-in niya, puros fully-synthetic engine oil na ginagamit namin. Particular din ako sa air filter, pag paper-type OEM gamit ko, every 5000 to 10,000 km lang palit na kahit puede pa. Hindi na rin ako nagpapa-pressure blow ng air filter, nananaliksik lang ang dumi in-between ng mga papel.

Yes, alam na alam ko yang mga kulay ng usok na yan. Before this D-Max, ang pick-up ko was a box-type Mitsu L200 4x2, yun ang talagang notorious na smoke belcher.

Isa yun sa hinangaan ko sa D-Max kasi dati kahit anong upak sa silinyador ang gawin ko, di siya umuusok. Ngayong mga nakaraang buwan lang nagsimulang mag-uusok si D-Max.

[hinDMaxsiado]

Yes, alam na alam ko yang mga kulay ng usok na yan. Before this D-Max, ang pick-up ko was a box-type Mitsu L200 4x2, yun ang talagang notorious na smoke belcher.

Isa yun sa hinangaan ko sa D-Max kasi dati kahit anong upak sa silinyador ang gawin ko, di siya umuusok. Ngayong mga nakaraang buwan lang nagsimulang mag-uusok si D-Max.

Hehehehe.... Hindi lang mausok mga Mitsubishi L200 at Endeavour, may usok din maging mga CRDi diesels na Strada 4D56 standard (gaya ng 2010 Monterosport nila in-laws) and even the 4D56 with VGT

Ang lumang DMax 3.0 TD Intercooler 4JH1-TC series natin, kahit ito'y hindi pa CRDi gaya ng current 3.0 Ddi-iTEQ 4JJ1-TC, halos wala din usok ito kahit biritan mo pa. Bukod dito matipid pa sa consumo ng crudo. Malalakas comparatively mga L200, Endeavour at Strada kahit sa econo-run pa sila ilagay.

Kahit sa Department of Energy (DOE) fuel eco-run noong 2004 na kapanahunan ng mga nabanggit na pickups, sadyang malalakas mga Mitsubishi kumain ng crudo kahit halos 2.5-litre lang mga ito. Mas mainam pa ng kaunti ang 2.7-litre na Nissan Frontier
http://www.doe.gov.ph/EE/Fuel%20Eco%20Run.pdf

ISUZU D-Max, 2999cc, manual transmision, 16.647 km/litre
NISSAN Frontier, 2664cc, manual transmission, 14.966 km/litre
MITSUBISHI Endeavor, 2477cc, manual transmission, 14.625 km/litre
MITSUBISHI Strada, 2477cc, manual transmission, 13.689 km/litre


Sa 2008 DOE fuel eco-run na panahon na ng mga CRDi diesels sa Pinas, ganoon din sir Isketi
http://www.doe.gov.ph/news/electrici...may%202008.pdf

ISUZU D-Max, 2500cc, manual transmission, 20.57 km/litre
ISUZU Alterra, 3000cc, manual transmission 19.44 km/litre (the Alterra and the D-Max 3.0 Ddi-iTEQ share the same engine)
TOYOTA Hilux, 2500cc, manual transmission, 19.12 km/litre
MITSUBISHI Strada, 2500cc, manual transmission, 18.57 km/litre
NISSAN Navara, 2500cc, manual transmission, 17.06 km/litre
MITSUBISHI Monterosport, 3200cc, automatic transmission, 13.05 km/litre

[hinDMaxsiado]

Isuzu's signature timing gear and chain

[HUMANHORDE]

ang 4JJ1-TC ba sir timing gear and chain din ba?

[HUMANHORDE]

excited na talaga si erpat sa bagong labas ng isuzu phils dmax. Sana lang ung VGS na. hehe
Anyway sabi daw sa bubwit nya, mga december or november daw maglalabas dito sa pinas. let's keep our fingers crossed.

[jarhead]

Baligtad sir, mas low maintenance ang timing chain kesa timing belt...

o yeah.. sorry mga sir..

timing chains are used sa diesel para malakas humatak, mas tahimik... but the problem SA TIMING BELT is that is has a very low life span, and needs maintenance...

[jarhead]

Folks, lately malakas ang konsumo & mausok ang D-Max ko (4JH1 engine). I had the engine oil & all filters replaced but the consumption didn't improve. My D-Max will be 8 years old this December and has logged in 85T kms. Kailangan pa rin ba ng injection pump or nozzle tip calibration sa 4JH1 engine? Plus, I didn't have a turbo timer installed. Can this be a symptom of turbo failure? Thanks.

sir, napa vlave adjustment mo na b? hindi naman kailangan yun sir... baka meron lng part bibgay... one hting is the EGR have it checked and have the trubo intercooler checked also baka meron nag crack sa intercooler... posible rin sir yun turbo mo meron na possible na "loss compresion"... but i doubt bibigay agad yun turbo... also have your throttle body cleaned and checked....

[HUMANHORDE]

by Harry Suzuki & Bruce Garland

[HUMANHORDE]

Sino pala nakakaalam ng price ng K&N Filter para sa 4JJ1-TC dmax engine?

[hinDMaxsiado]

ang 4JJ1-TC ba sir timing gear and chain din ba?

OP CORS bossing!

Sir, the 4JJ1-TCX is basically a 4JJ1-TC, only that it has a VNT/VGT. The other name for the 4JJ1-TCX engine is actually 4JJ1-TC hi-power. They also just differ in the mounting of the intercooler and the style of the air filter. Ours with the 4JJ1-TC standard is cylindrical.

Nakaka-engganyong tignan noh sir haha!

Sino pala nakakaalam ng price ng K&N Filter para sa 4JJ1-TC dmax engine?

Meron ako K&N sir at sa Speedlab ko nakuha, PhP5,500. Di pa kasama shampoo at oil spray kit para diyan. Abot ng mga P1,100 yang dalawa. Recommended cleaning interval every 10,000 km.

KASO, ang binibigay ng Speedlab ay ang K&N na intended talaga sa Nissan Patrol ---- Magka-height at magka-diameter naman tulad ng DMax 3.0 Ddi-iTEQ's air filter, kaso malaki ang butas sa gitna ng air filter para sa Patrol. Look for the part no. E-2023 should you like the real K&N air filter for the DMax 3.0 Ddi-iTEQ and i suggest to source it at car shops along Banaue Avenue.

Tinanggal ko na K&N ko after installing the Racechip Pro. With the Racechip Pro on plus the K&N free-sucking/flowing air filter, lumakas pa sa consumo si DMaxsiado at wild ang power by 2000 rpm and above. i put back the OEM air filter and gives me better translational power onto the wheels, therefore less spins and better traction. Tumipid pa sa crudo hehe with the Racechip Pro and OEM paper-type air filter.

[hinDMaxsiado]

o yeah.. sorry mga sir..

timing chains are used sa diesel para malakas humatak, mas tahimik... but the problem SA TIMING BELT is that is has a very low life span, and needs maintenance...

Hindi lang yun sir.... Sa tingin ko sir, kindly correct me if i'm wrong, if the timing-belt is ripped/pulled apart, and say you're overtaking, it's even dangerous ---- will put your car to a sudden stop. Could there be also a siezure? i don't know....

Chances of getting a chain-driven timing mechanism having the potentials to fail like a timing-belt could be low-to-nil.... again, i don't also know....

Look at where the timing mechanism is connected at the top of the engine, to the cams where the valves are also connected to feed fuel and air to the cylinders/pistons and run the whole system.

[hinDMaxsiado]

excited na talaga si erpat sa bagong labas ng isuzu phils dmax. Sana lang ung VGS na. hehe
Anyway sabi daw sa bubwit nya, mga december or november daw maglalabas dito sa pinas. let's keep our fingers crossed.

[SIZE=4]Ahoho.... Just like you, still awaiting arrival of Mr. Frog VGS Turbo





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[jarhead]

Hindi lang yun sir.... Sa tingin ko sir, kindly correct me if i'm wrong, if the timing-belt is ripped/pulled apart, and say you're overtaking, it's even dangerous ---- will put your car to a sudden stop. Could there be also a siezure? i don't know....

Chances of getting a chain-driven timing mechanism having the potentials to fail like a timing-belt could be low-to-nil.... again, i don't also know....

Look at where the timing mechanism is connected at the top of the engine, to the cams where the valves are also connected to feed fuel and air to the cylinders/pistons and run the whole system.

yes sir, once the timing belt is torn or broken or naputol... tendency is you have to overhaul your engine... mas malaking gastos na naman... kaya sa civic vtec ko dati... pinalitan ko when it reached 70,000kms nalang... hehehehe....

sa chain driven or gear driven system, very unlikely mangyari yun... i have seen fuegos or hilanders who have reached 300,000kms plus and hindi pa nabuksan ang engine or napalitan ng timing gear or chain....

[Ry_Tower]

What i particularly like is the intercooler hood scoops. Balanced kasi, hindi gaya nung sa non-crdi strada ang paj na left side orientation lang.

Well I guess I prefer a balanced look.

OT: I've read somewhere that FMIC is better than TMIC or SMIC. What's your take on this?

[hinDMaxsiado]

What i particularly like is the intercooler hood scoops. Balanced kasi, hindi gaya nung sa non-crdi strada ang paj na left side orientation lang.

Well I guess I prefer a balanced look.

+2 Sir Ry and -2 as well ahoho!

Aesthetic-wise, yes the hood scoop of the DMax VGS Turbo is a real go-gether.... BUT, given the condition in our Metro Manila traffic, when at standtill say caught inside a heavy traffic, the radiant heat from the engine is directly going up towards the top-mounted intercooler. Those living in the provinces wouldn't even mind the top-mounted one.... They would love how their DMax VGS Turbo looks like ;)

i might still choose a DMax VGS Turbo with the intercooler at the aft-grille just like our current 3.0 Ddi-iTEQ mounting.
....But dang! That bonnet scoop is really really nice. Exactly, i still don't know why i really love it so much that it should be a top-mounted intercooler haha

[kurt]

lately 2 hose clamps na maluwag ang kailangan e-tighten.

yun sa IC to turbo hose halos disconnected na, nag slip coz of loose clamp and oily stuff sa loob ng hose.

maybe check the hoses will help

No change in power sir ARB but the fuel consumption increased. Smoke is black. I just had a change oil, replaced all filters (oil, air, fuel) and had the valve clearances checked & adjusted.

I also noticed that the exhaust fumes have a stronger odor lately. I was thinking that maybe there was an exhaust leak but upon inspection at a muffler shop, they didn't find any leakage.