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June 20th, 2007 06:25 PM #271
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June 21st, 2007 01:14 AM #272*Syuryuken
hindi ba ganun naman talaga yun kasi,kapag matic hindi ka kaagad puwedeng magshift sa 4th gear kaagad tulad ng manual,sa matic di ba hindi ka na nagshishift ng gear depende sa tapak sa gas,pero kung tatapakan mo yung gas bigla, hindi pa ba sapat yung kung nasa 4th gear ka na para makaovertake ka,unless ayaw magpasingit o magpaovertake ng nasa unahan mo,ehh ganun din yun di ba,ang lamang lang manual 5 speed yung matic 4 speed lang........
mostly naman sa review pareho lang yung acceleration,minsan mabilis pa yung matic,pareho lang naman sila ng engine,baka yung feeling lang 1st gear tapos to higher gear,ramdam mo kasi yun sa manual,lalo na yung acceleration....
papano naman kung katulad ng may mga kotse ng automatic at the same time puwedeng manual,do you mean magkaiba din sila ng acceleration?
even yung top 10 fastest car in world is automatic,even F1 (formula one) is automatic to change gear in milleseconds......at marami pang iba......tulad ng [SIZE=-1]mercedez benz SLR Mclaren,automatic version lang ang meron at walang manual....[/SIZE]
http://www.funadvice.com/q/why_do_ma...ssion_cars_get
even Porsche 911 automatic is quicker than their manual counterparts
http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/Ar...rticleID=11039
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June 21st, 2007 01:24 PM #273
With a torque converter equipped automatic, a normal car will always be slower than a traditional manual.
The Porsche 911 AT isn't a good indicator of AT performance in general. With engines that powerful, the extra weight of the torque converter is nearly negligible. And with cars of that speed, (911, SLR), traction concerns often outweigh power transmission concerns when it comes to 0-100 km/h times.
For cars such as the Crosswind, which has merely 1/6th the power of the Porsche, the torque converter saps a lot of power out of what little is there.
In overtaking, you simply slot the MT one gear lower and ride the torque through the overtake. With the AT Crosswind, you can floor it and the speed will not increase appreciably. It's lazy to kick down, and when it does kick down a gear, it takes a while for the transmission to synch with the engine.
In fact, when driving Crosswind ATs going uphill, I like to do this: I ride the throttle at 1/4th opening... then floor it (full throttle) for a few seconds, then back to 1/4th. My passengers never notice a thing.
Ang pagbalik ng comeback...
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June 21st, 2007 05:53 PM #274*niky
i gave an example not just the 911 even other cars and suv,auv, that matic is not a lazy one compared to manual.....
how come that syuryuken said na mabagal daw yung crosswind na matic?sabi mo may delay,does it mean na mabagal yung matic compared sa manual?
dami kung sample, kung yung mga sasakyan ba na may manual at matic,pareho lang ba sila ng acceleration......
nacompare ko lang yung mga sportcar kasi it doesnt mean na kapag matic ka mabagal yung acceleration....
gaano katagal yung a while na sinasabi mo to synch yung transmission sa engine,inaabot ba ng ilang minuto?papano kung binigla ko yung tapak sa gas?bakit nasubukan ko yung company car na isuzu crosswind both manual and matic,na try ko na ito dati,pero sinubukan ko ulit kanina,pareho lang,kahit sa toyota altis ko na matic at manual na altis ng officemate ko pareho lang,kahit yung company car na fortuner at mazda pickup na matic....nakakahiya nga kinulit ko pa yung may hawak ng sasakyan.......
ehh ano yung mga sinasabi ni syuryuken na mabagal yung acceleration ng matic sa manual,bigyan ninyo naman ako ng proof para majustify.....yung sa crosswind
nagbasa na nga ako ng review,pareho lang aw yung acceleration minsan mabilis pa yung matic,hindi naman nasagot yung mga tanong ko doon sa unang post ko....hirap ng sabi-sabi lang....
pero wag na lang, thank you na lang,doon na lang tayo sa ,kung may problema pa sa muffler kung ganun pa rin ba sa crosswind 2007 at may iba pang problema?......
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June 22nd, 2007 11:52 AM #275
on the muffler issue, ang banggit ni cj a.k.a. crosswind guru
, mas nilakihan daw nila yung flexible hose na naka install dun sa exhaust manifold coming from the engine going the middle section. Sa tingin ko yun nga ang solusyon para ma-isolate yung vibration na primary cause ng muffler cracks and breakages. at mukhang inimprove nila yung engine mounts dahil wala din masyado vibration yung buong engine on start up and shutting off.
now on the acceleration, I don't have any first hand experience in actually driving a matic, but when an officemate in our office had a xuv matic, sinubok ko i-floor yung accelerator while on neutral, mabagal yung pickup ng RPM, compared to my manual trans xto. Anyways, siguro malaki din yung influence ng gear ratios on acceleration, magkaiba ng gear ratios ang matic and manual. Saka pagkaalam ko, papalo pa lang yung turbo at around 3000rpm before the extra horsepower kicks in. Again, hear-say ko lang yun or nabasa somewhere. Kaya ang matic daw, you have to rev it hard for the turbo to kick in. kaya mas malakas sa diesel consumption ang matic compared to the manual version.
hth ;)
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June 22nd, 2007 02:00 PM #276
yes totoo na around 3k rpm gumagana ang turbo. had driven my XTi for 2weeks before returning overseas. natutuwa ako sa performance ng bagong crosswind. laki tlga ng improvement.
but matagtag tlga ung sa 3rd row front facing seats nila. i tried to be a passenger and sat there to experience the ride and yun ung nakuha ko. hehe.
i drove from manila to lucban quezon and vice versa, ok tlga ang fuel consumption dahil naka 23L/ km ako!
very happy!
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June 22nd, 2007 02:12 PM #277
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June 23rd, 2007 05:07 AM #279
hndi pala nakakahabol ang adventure na diesel sa crosswind sa rektahan....hahaha....sa star tollway^^
ung muffler problem ung sa 05' na xwind ko hndi ko pa naeencounter eh...siguro depende nlng un sa pagddrive?
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mahirap to ma explain sa mga tumitingin if your selling one :twak2:
Ford explorer owners here anyone?