All New Isuzu MU-X // Alterra Next Generation

[ikloyputograpi]

Di ko pa nabablank ung sa akin.. pero ung kakilala ko ginawa na nya yang fully blank. At 400kms since mablank ay wala naman problema.. no CEL nor idling rpm change..

Ito din yung nakaplano ko na gawen pero hingi hingi muna din ako ng payo at opinyon sa mga experts.

Aussie's will not give insight based on a few hundred kms observation, they have done it by the thousands kms (10k or above) or by years of observation driven on rough terrains not only inclusive on paved areas.

Im pretty much convinced to use a sloted plated, but would also consider our local market setup, thats why i bought 2 plates because the level of difficulty of installing im not quite sure of. Plate to egr valve or a plate to the lower egr (not sloted yet, but im going to drill it)









And if by fully bypassing/deleting the kit, they have developed this as well. But still considers an air should pass by the egr valve thru the inlet valve from the air filter box.





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[aar0nix]

Sir aaronix.. palgay nyo sir sa fully close na blanking plate?

Based on what I've read on Thai and Aussie forums, it's better to have the slotted egr blanking plate. I'm not too keen on using aluminum plates and removing the egr pipe. Aluminum can melt under hight EGTs. I don't want to risk it.

Almost all answers regarding EGR Blanking of the new shape DMax and MUX can be found here:
NEW D-MAX /MUX /COLORADO FORUM •

It's a long, 17-page read.

We should thank *ikloyputograpi for summarizing it for us.

Whilst, others esp from way down under, they have develop a slotted plate which originated from Jeremy of Fosco. In this regard, it will not trick the ecu into thinking that its taking cold air. At least 95% approx will be blocked. They have tried without the slot, but in the long run it fried their batteries. Not quite sure, probably by ignoring the cel error code and just deleting it thru an obd scanner.

This confirms my observation after blanking about the EGR being fully open at idle vs before where it was just partially open at idle. ECU thinks that it needs to open fully the EGR valve because of the low volume of air coming from the exhaust port. Once I step on the throttle even at partial, the EGR fully closes. Before blanking, the EGR is always partially open all the time except only when WOT/Floored. Keeping the exhaust gases from mixing with the fresh intake air is important for a cleaner, sludge free intake manifold, intercooler, and turbo.

I'm not saying this is gospel truth. The Australians have more experience than me, so I trust what they are doing.

So far, I haven't seen my mu-x smoke anymore under heavy load. Before having it blanked, I usually get a puff of smoke whenever I start moving and floor it on first gear.

[Ogs]

Based on what I've read on Thai and Aussie forums, it's better to have the slotted egr blanking plate. I'm not too keen on using aluminum plates and removing the egr pipe. Aluminum can melt under hight EGTs. I don't want to risk it.

Almost all answers regarding EGR Blanking of the new shape DMax and MUX can be found here:
NEW D-MAX /MUX /COLORADO FORUM •

It's a long, 17-page read.

We should thank *ikloyputograpi for summarizing it for us.



This confirms my observation after blanking about the EGR being fully open at idle vs before where it was just partially open at idle. ECU thinks that it needs to open fully the EGR valve because of the low volume of air coming from the exhaust port. Once I step on the throttle even at partial, the EGR fully closes. Before blanking, the EGR is always partially open all the time except only when WOT/Floored. Keeping the exhaust gases from mixing with the fresh intake air is important for a cleaner, sludge free intake manifold, intercooler, and turbo.

I'm not saying this is gospel truth. The Australians have more experience than me, so I trust what they are doing.

So far, I haven't seen my mu-x smoke anymore under heavy load. Before having it blanked, I usually get a puff of smoke whenever I start moving and floor it on first gear.

Hahahah now im confused... hahahah gusto ko talga iblank pero wla aking blanking plate na may butas sa gitna. Hahahahaha. Ang available lang na meron ako ay ung wlanh butas... hay... hahahaha

[ikloyputograpi]

Hahahah now im confused... hahahah gusto ko talga iblank pero wla aking blanking plate na may butas sa gitna. Hahahahaha. Ang available lang na meron ako ay ung wlanh butas... hay... hahahaha

Everything is laid, links were mentioned
And in the end..
It will still be at your own discretion

If needed for a stainless steel sloted blanking plate, this guy can hook you up, i asked for the item cost, and it cost around 500php, but he still opt out and declining an order from me, and advise me to fabricate it myself, to save the freight charges bound for davao. Great guy.





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[Ogs]

Everything is laid, links were mentioned
And in the end..
It will still be at your own discretion

If needed for a stainless steel sloted blanking plate, this guy can hook you up, i asked for the item cost, and it cost around 500php, but he still opt out and declining an order from me, and advise me to fabricate it myself, to save the freight charges bound for davao. Great guy.





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Based on what I've read on Thai and Aussie forums, it's better to have the slotted egr blanking plate. I'm not too keen on using aluminum plates and removing the egr pipe. Aluminum can melt under hight EGTs. I don't want to risk it.

Almost all answers regarding EGR Blanking of the new shape DMax and MUX can be found here:
NEW D-MAX /MUX /COLORADO FORUM •

It's a long, 17-page read.

We should thank *ikloyputograpi for summarizing it for us.



This confirms my observation after blanking about the EGR being fully open at idle vs before where it was just partially open at idle. ECU thinks that it needs to open fully the EGR valve because of the low volume of air coming from the exhaust port. Once I step on the throttle even at partial, the EGR fully closes. Before blanking, the EGR is always partially open all the time except only when WOT/Floored. Keeping the exhaust gases from mixing with the fresh intake air is important for a cleaner, sludge free intake manifold, intercooler, and turbo.

I'm not saying this is gospel truth. The Australians have more experience than me, so I trust what they are doing.

So far, I haven't seen my mu-x smoke anymore under heavy load. Before having it blanked, I usually get a puff of smoke whenever I start moving and floor it on first gear.

Sir aaronix and sir ikloy? Binasa ko ung 17pages na forum.. di ko alam king naintindihan ko lahat. Pero isa ung naging pumukaw ng aking atensyon. Hehehe

Check engine.. nag aappear daw ang check engine sa kanila especially pag tag ulan na mabab ang pressure? Kung sa akin mangyayaro to at biglang mag limp mode.. patay na. Hahah di ko na alam gagawen ko...

Any comment sir re this?

Thanks

[aar0nix]

Sir aaronix and sir ikloy? Binasa ko ung 17pages na forum.. di ko alam king naintindihan ko lahat. Pero isa ung naging pumukaw ng aking atensyon. Hehehe

Check engine.. nag aappear daw ang check engine sa kanila especially pag tag ulan na mabab ang pressure? Kung sa akin mangyayaro to at biglang mag limp mode.. patay na. Hahah di ko na alam gagawen ko...

Any comment sir re this?

Thanks

Never nag check engine sakin while blanked. Nagpunta na ako ng Baler (night driving sa bundok), Tagaytay (foggy), Marilaque (foggy), and dito sa Manila nag uulan ng malakas recently.. no CEL.

[ikloyputograpi]

My interpretation on that one, maybe after the have reinstalled the bolts, probably they have not tighten and torqued equally thus resulting to uneven/mis aligned valve, or egr cooler wherever they have installed the plate with, kaya may singaw. Not quite sure on this but i'll try to find out.


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[Ogs]

Never nag check engine sakin while blanked. Nagpunta na ako ng Baler (night driving sa bundok), Tagaytay (foggy), Marilaque (foggy), and dito sa Manila nag uulan ng malakas recently.. no CEL.

My interpretation on that one, maybe after the have reinstalled the bolts, probably they have not tighten and torqued equally thus resulting to uneven/mis aligned valve, or egr cooler wherever they have installed the plate with, kaya may singaw. Not quite sure on this but i'll try to find out.


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Mga sir. Kilala nyo po si sir jessie naidas ng team ice? A great guy at napaka accomodating sa mga baguhan.. di ko pa po xa namit pero balak ko po sa knya mgapalagau ng blanking... any idea po kung may butas o wala ang blanking plate nya? Thanks.

[Civic_Racer]

Mga sir. Kilala nyo po si sir jessie naidas ng team ice? A great guy at napaka accomodating sa mga baguhan.. di ko pa po xa namit pero balak ko po sa knya mgapalagau ng blanking... any idea po kung may butas o wala ang blanking plate nya? Thanks.

May butas sir. Sa kanya din ako nagpakabit. Gusto ko pa nga makipagkwentuhan. Pero tumakas lang ako hehe. Kaya 1hr lang ako dun

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[Ogs]

May butas sir. Sa kanya din ako nagpakabit. Gusto ko pa nga makipagkwentuhan. Pero tumakas lang ako hehe. Kaya 1hr lang ako dun

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Ayos. Heheheh sige sir.. imeet ko xa sa july... peri bago ang lahat gusto ko muna sumali sa team ice. Heheh cant wait to join with the team. Hehehe nabigyan na aki ng background ni sir jessie at excited na ako sumali. Hehehe

Back to topic.. egr... wala bang overheating pag nakablank na.. nabsa ko kasi na ang effect ay nag iinit ang makina. Any thoughts?

[aar0nix]

Ayos. Heheheh sige sir.. imeet ko xa sa july... peri bago ang lahat gusto ko muna sumali sa team ice. Heheh cant wait to join with the team. Hehehe nabigyan na aki ng background ni sir jessie at excited na ako sumali. Hehehe

Back to topic.. egr... wala bang overheating pag nakablank na.. nabsa ko kasi na ang effect ay nag iinit ang makina. Any thoughts?

Ok talaga yan si Jess. Mabait at napakahumble ;)

Wala naman. Hindi rin naman tumataas water coolant temp when idling.

[Ogs]

Ok talaga yan si Jess. Mabait at napakahumble ;)

Wala naman. Hindi rin naman tumataas water coolant temp when idling.

Thank you sir aaronix.
Harold padura po

[ikloyputograpi]

My own vanity list of upgrades.
Naiipon lang sa bahay, galit na nanay ko sia kc nagrereceive ng parcels.




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[bluberto]

My own vanity list of upgrades.
Naiipon lang sa bahay, galit na nanay ko sia kc nagrereceive ng parcels.




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Panalo list mo ng upgrades sir ah! [emoji1303]


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[aar0nix]

My own vanity list of upgrades.
Naiipon lang sa bahay, galit na nanay ko sia kc nagrereceive ng parcels.




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Wow!!! OC 😱 hehe

[bluberto]

Based on what I've read on Thai and Aussie forums, it's better to have the slotted egr blanking plate. I'm not too keen on using aluminum plates and removing the egr pipe. Aluminum can melt under hight EGTs. I don't want to risk it.

Almost all answers regarding EGR Blanking of the new shape DMax and MUX can be found here:
NEW D-MAX /MUX /COLORADO FORUM •

It's a long, 17-page read.

We should thank *ikloyputograpi for summarizing it for us.



This confirms my observation after blanking about the EGR being fully open at idle vs before where it was just partially open at idle. ECU thinks that it needs to open fully the EGR valve because of the low volume of air coming from the exhaust port. Once I step on the throttle even at partial, the EGR fully closes. Before blanking, the EGR is always partially open all the time except only when WOT/Floored. Keeping the exhaust gases from mixing with the fresh intake air is important for a cleaner, sludge free intake manifold, intercooler, and turbo.

I'm not saying this is gospel truth. The Australians have more experience than me, so I trust what they are doing.

So far, I haven't seen my mu-x smoke anymore under heavy load. Before having it blanked, I usually get a puff of smoke whenever I start moving and floor it on first gear.

Sorry baka may namiss ako, si kohn184 ba ay naka full blank or slotted?

"Anyways fellas i am here to help out & answer any questions I can. I dont sell these plates for a living - its a hobby after seeing my intake completely clog up on my 4JJ1 about a year ago & figuring i should do something about it (something less than a $1500 intake clean & rebuild). I have used the money from selling plates to develop the full blank, with a full blank working I see my motor oil staying a lot cleaner. I have also used my knowledge to develop plates for other diesels & some petrols that my friends have.
EGR is a great idea - however in reality if it will kill my engine in just 100,000kms i am not a fan."

Tsaka parang wala ko napansin na egr cooler sa 4JK1-Tc(hi) engine natin?

Ano pa ba difference nun sa 4JJ1 na released sa kanila?

Dame tanong, alam mo naman na sir aaronix naka full blank nako, kaya mejo bias.hahaha

Anyways, i would suggest ihuli nyo to sa upgrades.. Mahaba habang inuman, este usapan na kasi pag tungkol sa egr... [emoji38]




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[bluberto]

Share ko lang mga muxers.. This is how our egr pipe looks like,



I am sure that our MuX here in ph do not have an egr cooler when we removed that pipe. i think the thermal insulation wrap is lame attempt to lower temp of air from our exhaust.

I have around 9k in my odometer when this was removed and you can see in the pic how it looks like inside. i do not want any of that going into my intake manifold,

I think that's where the big debate is sa AU, masyado extreme conditions nila in terms of driving offroad and even their weather, and it gets further complicated by an egr cooler and their sensors.

I have yet to see how the thais have discussed this but just by principle, i would agree with khon184 - EGR is a great idea, but if it will kill my engine in the long run, or even add cost to have my intake manifold decarbonized/cleaned.. I'd go with full blank.


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[aar0nix]

Share ko lang mga muxers.. This is how our egr pipe looks like,



I am sure that our MuX here in ph do not have an egr cooler when we removed that pipe. i think the thermal insulation wrap is lame attempt to lower temp of air from our exhaust.

I have around 9k in my odometer when this was removed and you can see in the pic how it looks like inside. i do not want any of that going into my intake manifold,

I think that's where the big debate is sa AU, masyado extreme conditions nila in terms of driving offroad and even their weather, and it gets further complicated by an egr cooler and their sensors.

I have yet to see how the thais have discussed this but just by principle, i would agree with khon184 - EGR is a great idea, but if it will kill my engine in the long run, or even add cost to have my intake manifold decarbonized/cleaned.. I'd go with full blank.


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EGR pipe of mux = EGR Cooler without the coolant passing through tubes. Our engines aren't that complicated.

The link isn't saying full blanking is bad. Mas safe lang ang slotted plates vs full blanks or MAF attachments.

Like I said, this isn't gospel truth, but I trust what more of them are doing (slotted blanking plates vs full blanking plates/MAF attachment)

[ikloyputograpi]

Share ko lang mga muxers.. This is how our egr pipe looks like,

I am sure that our MuX here in ph do not have an egr cooler when we removed that pipe. i think the thermal insulation wrap is lame attempt to lower temp of air from our exhaust.

I have around 9k in my odometer when this was removed and you can see in the pic how it looks like inside. i do not want any of that going into my intake manifold,

I think that's where the big debate is sa AU, masyado extreme conditions nila in terms of driving offroad and even their weather, and it gets further complicated by an egr cooler and their sensors.

I have yet to see how the thais have discussed this but just by principle, i would agree with khon184 - EGR is a great idea, but if it will kill my engine in the long run, or even add cost to have my intake manifold decarbonized/cleaned.. I'd go with full blank.

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this will not be debatable issue, because it will be still be at your own discretion whether to fully block the egr, no one is saying it is not correct

because it also depends on your driving conditions,
as for my own.. it is used as a family transport full city driving, cruisin around metro davao max 30kph,
and the last time i've been there, my nanay's speed at most 20kph, due to volume of traffic, till i drove it around central then eastern mindanao for break-in'
plausibly it will never experience a closed egr valve after that, it will always be partially or fully open,
i can't take any risks of CEL showin up, because nanay wouldnt know how to fix it, thats why i'll choose a slotted plate by the time i'll install mine.

since, you have already fully blocked the egr system
would you do a simple experiment by running it idle for 10-15mins?
because by that duration, we can confirm whether the ECU will indeed reopen the valve due to low volume of gases that comes from exhaust port?

[ikloyputograpi]

Lets add a discussion/topic to the mix, regarding oil catch cans? To put a breather or not, i've seen a lot of post around TIP having a breather catch can. Or modified it to have a breather.

I dont see the point of it, if in any case i dont want the vapor, to go back to the manifold, i would just condemn the line from can to the manifold. And also whether i need the can itself, can i just put a breather directly to the pcv port?




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