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February 9th, 2010 08:11 PM #51
Why should Honda even enter the equation? Honda chooses not to make its own diesels, because they can't apply their design philosophy to the current level of diesel technology. (In other words, diesels can't rev high... no joke... a Honda official actually did say this is one of the reasons they don't make diesels...)
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February 9th, 2010 08:17 PM #52hate to nitpick pero...
actually its not 7PS, just 4PS lang.... ang deficit nya kung ganun.
(based on Hyundai UK specs) its 145kW and or 194BHP (197PS) sya....
and yung Comparison naman sa UK ng new updated SUV's...
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carrevi...vs_rivals.html
ang conclusion ng 4car test ay
1. Honda CRV
2. Hyundai Santa Fe (with the R2.2)
3. Toyota RAV4
4. Puegeot 4007 (based on Mitsu)...
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kung ako (and 80% of all the other buyer's) can forgive Hyundai Santa Fe's Handling (due to its massive weight of 1.9Tons) kasi it has over whelming torque and power naman. hahaha.
so yung R2.0 kaya fm. 182PS minus X ?
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February 9th, 2010 08:26 PM #53
ser Niky sa Europe lang nila mina-market yung Common Rail turbo diesel nila.....
'http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/firstdrives/53382/honda_crv.html'
at nung 2004 they made the World Record (in Honda Accord body) of the fastest diesel production car in the world. (German track) 24hrs. i think they averaged something like 204kph.... the i-CTDI then was only rated at 138BHP (140PS) / 34Kg-m.... even though they released fm. 2008 the newer one called i-DTEC..... the power increase was only very minimal. but it did improve alot by reducing CO2 emissions even without UrEA injection....something no other manufacturer has attained.... but 2010 its Hyunda/Kia's year to shine and show their new found knowhow in Diesel Engine.... they have come up with the Rseries engine..... come on Hyundai / Kia ilabas nyo na....but don't forget to price it reasonably.... hahaha. naghahanap na ako ng kapalit sa Caren's CRDi 6M/T (nakakngalay na mag clutch)
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February 9th, 2010 11:42 PM #54
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February 10th, 2010 08:11 AM #55
Oh well, another family of vehicles are about to make a big splash in the industry....
9202:toothbrush:
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February 10th, 2010 10:27 AM #56
A high-revving non-turbo gasoline engine versus a low-revving turbocharged diesel engine with the same displacement and power... yes. Because a naturally aspirated engine doesn't develop the same amount of torque.
But a high-revving turbocharged gasoline engine versus a turbocharged diesel? If you assemble the gasser to the same over-built specs as the diesel (con-rods and pistons of the same strength... same boost), it'll be much faster. There's a reason why the fastest supercars still use gasoline/bio-ethanol engines. Power-to-engine weight, they still can't be beaten.
200 bhp from a 2 liter turbodiesel is already fantastic... and it's probably possible to get up to 250 bhp before blowing something up. But for gasoline 2 liter turbos, 250 bhp is a piece of cake, 300 bhp still meets durability requirements, and you can even buy 400 bhp engines (EVO FQ400) with a (limited) factory warranty. Of course, built to extreme specs, 500-700 bhp 2 liter gassers are still streetable.
Don't get me wrong, I love turbodiesels... and I think Hyundai's mills, in particular, are fantastic... but they still have a long way to go before they match the best of the gasoline bunch. The one advantage they have is that you can buy most turbodiesels for just a little more money than non-turbo gasoline engines... the cheapest turbo gasoline engines (that are purpose-built for turbocharging, not simply light turbocharged like the Genesis) are at 1.7m or more.
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Honda is starting on modern diesels now, but they're not bringing them in here yet... they've started late and are still working on the technology, though, so I don't expect anything from them for a while.
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Again, I don't see what relation Honda has to this thread, since they don't sell diesels locally, and don't brag about it.Last edited by niky; February 10th, 2010 at 10:36 AM.
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February 10th, 2010 02:11 PM #57
o eto pa-press release ng Honda para sa kanyang mga fanboys
180 PS i-DTEC Engine for Accord Sedan and Tourer
This new higher-power variant produces 180 PS at 4000 rpm, a 30 PS increase over the standard i-DTEC engine with the peak power coming at the same rpm. Torque has also increased 30 Nm to 380 Nm at 2000 rpm.
The new engine retains its 2.2 liter capacity and gains its additional power with a revised turbo-charger housing, enlarged intercooler, stronger con-rods and a revised cylinder head.
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February 10th, 2010 04:08 PM #58
thats not necessarily true...
the CRDi is faster on the Roll not from stand still.
because below 1500RPM Hyunda/Kia CRDi's are quite weak...
well the facts speak for itself...
see Kia UK specs....
http://www.kia.co.uk/~/media/Specifi...et-Carens.ashx
[0-62mph / 0-100kph]
Kia Carens 2.0 Gas 4A/T : 11.9sec
Kia Carens 2.0 Gas 5M/T : 11.0sec
Kia Carens 2.0 CRDi 4A/T : 12.6sec
Kia Carens 2.0 CRDi 6M/T : 11.0sec
http://www.honda.co.uk/cars/_assets/...door/Civic.pdf
Civic 1.8 Gas 5Door 5A/T : 11.0sec
Civic 1.8 Gas 5Door 5M/T : 8.9sec
Civic 2.2 i-DTEC 5Door 6M/T : 8.7sec
Civic 2.0 Gas TypeR 6M/T : 6.6sec {see this car has 1/3 less of the torque of the i-DTEC but still much faster}
http://www.honda.co.uk/cars/_assets/.../cr-v/CR-V.pdf
CRV 2.0 Gas 5A/T : 12.2sec
CRV 2.0 Gas 6M/T : 10.2sec
CRV 2.2 i-DTEC 5A/T : 10.6sec
CRV 2.2 i-DTEC 6M/T : 9.6sec
Diesel's main advantage is Torque, especially on a roll. & on up-hill.
and best of all - fuel economy....
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April 13th, 2010 09:02 AM #59
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June 15th, 2010 06:15 PM #60
Sta Fe 2010 R-series 2.2L CRDI Specifications: series 4-cylinder, turbo diesel, the transverse displacement 2199 cm3 • performance • 145 kW (197 hp) at 3800/min • • Torque 422 Nm at 1800 rpm Curb weight / charge 1904/666 kg • wading depth of 500 mm • Acceleration 0-100 km / h 8.9 s
• Top speed 194 km / h • test consumption (l/100 km) 7.6 Diesel •
Haha that's true. People entering the roundabout charge into it as if they have the right of way,...
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