Hyundai ACCENT Hatch CRDI 1.6

[dct]

Di totoo yan. Maganda sales ng accent tapos ipupush nila ang over priced i20 nila?

[bloowolf]

Di totoo yan. Maganda sales ng accent tapos ipupush nila ang over priced i20 nila?

Sabi nga nung Ahente, yung Accent di mo na kailangan i-push sa cliente. Madali ibenta. Yung i20x naman unproven at mahal.

[dct]

Sabi nga nung Ahente, yung Accent di mo na kailangan i-push sa cliente. Madali ibenta. Yung i20x naman unproven at mahal.

Yup. Tama. Meaning ititigil nila yung "binibinili na lang ng no need to push" na sasakyan? Malabo

[bloowolf]

Yup. Tama. Meaning ititigil nila yung "binibinili na lang ng no need to push" na sasakyan? Malabo

Ahente lang naman nagsabi nun. Di mo naman alam kung totoo.

[cascais]

Ung mga kalampag sir, sa suspension, bad service sa casa, nag tanggal ng safety features. Wala na rn siguro ung stuck-up clutch. Gaya nung kay sir snoot 2 years na. Sayang ganda pa naman. Hehe.

Lahat ng brand ng kotse nagkakaron ng kalampag....depende lang yan sa gamit at proper PMS (baka paiba-iba rin ang nagda-drive). Tingnan nyo yang mga taxi, eh di makalampag? Any car needs TLC and , as i mentioned earlier, PMS.

Anyway, what the worry? It's got a 5-year warranty/100k kms wc ever comes first.

[alfie_marc]

Last august 13,2015 pagkauwi ko galing ofis may napansin ako bigla na engine knocking, so naisip ko na due na rin ako 55k km run ko, my actual reading is 56k. Kinabukasan friday august 14 pina pms ko sa hyundai shaw and sinabi ko yung engine knocking nya. Sabi ng service advisor "cge sir mawawala yan after ma pms" so after ma pms nag ask ako kung may defect ba o sira ang sabi nman nya ok nman lahat. Sinabi nya lang yung mga next ma papalitan like break pads etc.. So kumpyansa nman ako at di ko na muna nilabas ang car bcoz coding rin ako on that day. Pag labas ko ng car napansin ko na andun pa rin! Sabi ko sa service advisor bkit ganyan pa rin tapos ang sabi nya sir mag aauto adjust nman ang valve nyan obeserbahan nlang natin pag hindi nawala balik mo. Den dumaan ang sat,sun,mon di pa rin nawala tapos nung wed pag pasok ko ng office along kamuning biglang may malakas na ingay sa engine ko so pinatay ko agad den napansin ng mga tao may tumagas ng langis ayun nag patulak na ako sa tabi. Tumatawag ako sa tow nila walang sumasagot so no choice ako pahatak sa taxi. Pag dating ko dun ayun kwento ng scenario and bottom line masyado na sila hugas kamay na hindi nman nila raw ppyagan ang sasakyan ilabas pag may problem! Bullshit! Nireklamo ko nga eh ang malik ko sna di k nlang nilabas ang kotse ko. Tapos dun na nila ako binalikan sa missed pms void na raw ang waranty!

[cascais]

I think it has something to do with our japanese-dominated motoring culture. Dati kasi pag Japanese made car, matibay, maganda. Pag Korean made, bulok, madaling masira, etc. Ngayon na maganda na ang quality ng mga Korean cars, marami paring tao ang hindi makatanggap noon. I know someone na kahit ano sabihin ko magandang points ng Accent CRDi, vios parin daw siya kasi Toyota yun matibay at mura ang parts. Stereo type. No offense meant.

Let him check the specs of the Vios as against the Accent CRDI. If that's not enough to convince him, then nothing ever will.

[dr. d]

Let him check the specs of the Vios as against the Accent CRDI. If that's not enough to convince him, then nothing ever will.

specs is one thing... build quality is something else.
between the two, i value build quality more.

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Let him check the specs of the Vios as against the Accent CRDI. If that's not enough to convince him, then nothing ever will.

specs is one thing... build quality is something else.
between the two, i value build quality more.

[cascais]

Sir from what i know they use their own oil, HGMO. Plus, i have to say, a lot of people say that the HGMO is not as good as brands like motul etc but after the first PMS the accent performs better now. mas smooth yung hatak, hindi na masyadong hirap yung engine pag uphill. i can only imagine kung gano kaganda ang takbo nito using the best oil in the market. it truly was a pleasure to drive it yesterday!

Common sense will say that that Hyundai Casa will not put HGMO oil if it's of inferior quality. It would be their loss. Remember, the Hyundai cars have a 5-year/100k kms warranty to take take care of.

[dr. d]

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Last august 13,2015 pagkauwi ko galing ofis may napansin ako bigla na engine knocking, so naisip ko na due na rin ako 55k km run ko, my actual reading is 56k. Kinabukasan friday august 14 pina pms ko sa hyundai shaw and sinabi ko yung engine knocking nya. Sabi ng service advisor "cge sir mawawala yan after ma pms" so after ma pms nag ask ako kung may defect ba o sira ang sabi nman nya ok nman lahat. Sinabi nya lang yung mga next ma papalitan like break pads etc.. So kumpyansa nman ako at di ko na muna nilabas ang car bcoz coding rin ako on that day. Pag labas ko ng car napansin ko na andun pa rin! Sabi ko sa service advisor bkit ganyan pa rin tapos ang sabi nya sir mag aauto adjust nman ang valve nyan obeserbahan nlang natin pag hindi nawala balik mo. Den dumaan ang sat,sun,mon di pa rin nawala tapos nung wed pag pasok ko ng office along kamuning biglang may malakas na ingay sa engine ko so pinatay ko agad den napansin ng mga tao may tumagas ng langis ayun nag patulak na ako sa tabi. Tumatawag ako sa tow nila walang sumasagot so no choice ako pahatak sa taxi. Pag dating ko dun ayun kwento ng scenario and bottom line masyado na sila hugas kamay na hindi nman nila raw ppyagan ang sasakyan ilabas pag may problem! Bullshit! Nireklamo ko nga eh ang malik ko sna di k nlang nilabas ang kotse ko. Tapos dun na nila ako binalikan sa missed pms void na raw ang waranty!

... what missed pms...?

[alfie_marc]

Yung after 30k pms ko nag pap change oil nlang ako sa petron pero yung oil filter sa hyundai ko pa rin binibili

[dr. d]

Sir from what i know they use their own oil, HGMO. Plus, i have to say, a lot of people say that the HGMO is not as good as brands like motul etc but after the first PMS the accent performs better now. mas smooth yung hatak, hindi na masyadong hirap yung engine pag uphill. i can only imagine kung gano kaganda ang takbo nito using the best oil in the market. it truly was a pleasure to drive it yesterday!

maybe the engine had already loosened by then, hence the better oomph.., HGMO or not...

sa totoo lang naman... almost any car will have improved performance immediately after a fresh change of oil, whether high end oil or regular basic oil. - experience from a car owner of over 2 decades here.

[cascais]

specs is one thing... build quality is something else.
between the two, i value build quality more.

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specs is one thing... build quality is something else.
between the two, i value build quality more.

Build quality??? Isn't the 5-year/100k km warranty given by Hyundai enough assurance as to the "build quality" of this Asian made car?
Not even Japanese brands like Toyota, Honda, etc. ever dared offer this kind of warranty. I wonder why?

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specs is one thing... build quality is something else.
between the two, i value build quality more.

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specs is one thing... build quality is something else.
between the two, i value build quality more.

Build quality??? Isn't the 5-year/100k km warranty given by Hyundai enough assurance as to the "build quality" of this Asian made car?
Not even Japanese brands like Toyota, Honda, etc. ever dared offer this kind of warranty. I wonder why?

[cascais]

Beats me. The sales guy said the Accent competes with the i20x. We really wouldn't know & not privy to talks by Hyundai Korea & Hari. Maybe Hyundai is pressuring to sell it? Who knows?

I was told that it is the i10 that will be discontinued, not the Accent HB.
The Accent is in a higher category...1.6 vs the 1.4 of the i20.
Remains to be seen though.

[cascais]

The Accent is in a higher category...1.6 vs the 1.4 of the i20.


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The Accent is in a higher category...1.6 vs the 1.4 of the i20.
Remains to be seen though.

[dr. d]

Build quality??? Isn't the 5-year/100k km warranty given by Hyundai enough assurance as to the "build quality" of this Asian made car?
Not even Japanese brands like Toyota, Honda, etc. ever dared offer this kind of warranty. I wonder why?

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Build quality??? Isn't the 5-year/100k km warranty given by Hyundai enough assurance as to the "build quality" of this Asian made car?
Not even Japanese brands like Toyota, Honda, etc. ever dared offer this kind of warranty. I wonder why?

sir... you are looking at it from the customer's point of view, which is what hyundai wants customer to think. a valid argument, i agree... but an incomplete one, if i may brazenly add..

look at it from hyundai's point of view... there's customer perception (like yours) of good quality, PLUS they have guaranteed income from 5 years' continuous patronage from the car owner! because if car owner breaks the pms shackles, his 5 year warranty goes pffft.. the casa doesn't survive because of the number of cars they sell.. they survive because of the number of pms and other maintenance and repair services they give.. this explains the casas' seeming overprice of their services and parts.

why do the japanese brands not offer this 5 year warranty? is it a reflection of the poorer build quality of their cars? just ask the japanese car owner... today. a number of japanese car owners do not even bother to do the 3 year pms with the casa anymore.. they feel the car is so well built, they have nothing to lose.. some of them even feel that no such pms is performed on their cars in the casa anyway (argueable, this)... some think they can have the same pms quality outside the casa, cheaper still, with no long queue.. heck! a number of us celebrate the expiration of the warranty, by taking 'er for an oil change in the neighborhood gas station, at half casa price.

so why does hyundai offer 5 year warranty? it is because they have some marketing catching up to do with their japanese competitors. they have to offer something the competition does not offer. of course, they have to be sure the product can withstand the quality requirement first.. (which is what customer is banking on.).. otherwise it will blow up in their faces.
toyota... does not usually offer promos and other gimmicks.. because they know they are the top dog in the industry. they don't need it.

before a manufacturer offers any deal, it first does a horrendous amount of numbers-crunching, to figure out just how much sales (or losses) it might generate..
then there is the maverick decision maker from nowhere..
and yet... sometimes they win.. sometimes they lose.

this 5 year warranty has been tried out in the US for years now.. i wonder how it went over there..

i used to drive korean. let's keep it at that.
and every car manufacturer, bar none, has had its share of lemons.

[dr. d]

Yung after 30k pms ko nag pap change oil nlang ako sa petron pero yung oil filter sa hyundai ko pa rin binibili

so for the next 25K km, the casa did not get to see your car? that's 4 oil changes and as many check-ups on the other components, without the benefit of casa supervision, sir...

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Yung after 30k pms ko nag pap change oil nlang ako sa petron pero yung oil filter sa hyundai ko pa rin binibili

so for the next 25K km, the casa did not get to see your car? that's 4 oil changes and as many check-ups on the other components, without the benefit of casa supervision, sir...

[cascais]

sir... you are looking at it from the customer's point of view, which is what hyundai wants customer to think. a valid argument, i agree... but an incomplete one, if i may brazenly add..

look at it from hyundai's point of view... there's customer perception (like yours) of good quality, PLUS they have guaranteed income from 5 years' continuous patronage from the car owner! because if car owner breaks the pms shackles, his 5 year warranty goes pffft.. the casa doesn't survive because of the number of cars they sell.. they survive because of the number of pms and other maintenance and repair services they give.. this explains the casas' seeming overprice of their services and parts.

why do the japanese brands not offer this 5 year warranty? is it a reflection of the poorer build quality of their cars? just ask the japanese car owner... today. a number of japanese car owners do not even bother to do the 3 year pms with the casa anymore.. they feel the car is so well built, they have nothing to lose.. some of them even feel that no such pms is performed on their cars in the casa anyway (argueable, this)... some think they can have the same pms quality outside the casa, cheaper still, with no long queue.. heck! a number of us celebrate the expiration of the warranty, by taking 'er for an oil change in the neighborhood gas station, at half casa price.

so why does hyundai offer 5 year warranty? it is because they have some marketing catching up to do with their japanese competitors. they have to offer something the competition does not offer. of course, they have to be sure the product can withstand the quality requirement first.. (which is what customer is banking on.).. otherwise it will blow up in their faces.
toyota... does not usually offer promos and other gimmicks.. because they know they are the top dog in the industry. they don't need it.

before a manufacturer offers any deal, it first does a horrendous amount of numbers-crunching, to figure out just how much sales (or losses) it might generate..
then there is the maverick decision maker from nowhere..
and yet... sometimes they win.. sometimes they lose.

this 5 year warranty has been tried out in the US for years now.. i wonder how it went over there..

i used to drive korean. let's keep it at that.
and every car manufacturer, bar none, has had its share of lemons.

Hahaha! Sorry I just couldn't help this reaction from reading your reply.☺️
Oh my...i was a Toyota Boy (Corolla SL/SR, Corona 2-door, Crown, Camry) since the 70's, I've also been a Honda Boy from the CVCC's, CITY, CIVICS till the FD models (modesty aside, aside from other brands wc i don't anymore believe is appropriate to mention in this forum). I tell you, and to all those who may be on this thread that not even these Japanese brands can claim superiority over the newer "Kimchi" cars wc I love to call them.

I now own one of this perky Hyundai HB a/t (40k++kms to date) and sorry to disappoint you but i'm well satisfied with this Korean "KIMCHI" sub-compact (wc I never thought I'd ever consider buying until I test drove one)...even their after sales service is great. This little "Kimchi" car is still performing well and no differnt from the Japs. If I may add...without belittling our HONDA FD 1.8, (wc is also a great car), the little "kimchi" car handles road imperfections better, and sorry to say, has better acceleration than our FD.

Anyway, this is just my first-hand and humble observations having been a licensed driver since the time that drag racing was still done along Makati Ave. during Friday nights....yes, along Makati Ave.

Btw, I always follow the regular PMS that each of our cars required.☺️

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sir... you are looking at it from the customer's point of view, which is what hyundai wants customer to think. a valid argument, i agree... but an incomplete one, if i may brazenly add..

look at it from hyundai's point of view... there's customer perception (like yours) of good quality, PLUS they have guaranteed income from 5 years' continuous patronage from the car owner! because if car owner breaks the pms shackles, his 5 year warranty goes pffft.. the casa doesn't survive because of the number of cars they sell.. they survive because of the number of pms and other maintenance and repair services they give.. this explains the casas' seeming overprice of their services and parts.

why do the japanese brands not offer this 5 year warranty? is it a reflection of the poorer build quality of their cars? just ask the japanese car owner... today. a number of japanese car owners do not even bother to do the 3 year pms with the casa anymore.. they feel the car is so well built, they have nothing to lose.. some of them even feel that no such pms is performed on their cars in the casa anyway (argueable, this)... some think they can have the same pms quality outside the casa, cheaper still, with no long queue.. heck! a number of us celebrate the expiration of the warranty, by taking 'er for an oil change in the neighborhood gas station, at half casa price.

so why does hyundai offer 5 year warranty? it is because they have some marketing catching up to do with their japanese competitors. they have to offer something the competition does not offer. of course, they have to be sure the product can withstand the quality requirement first.. (which is what customer is banking on.).. otherwise it will blow up in their faces.
toyota... does not usually offer promos and other gimmicks.. because they know they are the top dog in the industry. they don't need it.

before a manufacturer offers any deal, it first does a horrendous amount of numbers-crunching, to figure out just how much sales (or losses) it might generate..
then there is the maverick decision maker from nowhere..
and yet... sometimes they win.. sometimes they lose.

this 5 year warranty has been tried out in the US for years now.. i wonder how it went over there..

i used to drive korean. let's keep it at that.
and every car manufacturer, bar none, has had its share of lemons.

Hahaha! Sorry I just couldn't help this reaction from reading your reply.☺️
Oh my...i was a Toyota Boy (Corolla SR/ SR, Corona, Crown, Camry) since the 70's, I've also been a Honda Boy from the CVCC's, CIVICS till the FD models (modesty aside, aside from other brands wc i don't anymore believe is appropriate to mention in this forum). I tell you, and to all those who may be on this thread that not even these Japanese brands can claim superiority over the newer "Kimchi" cars wc I love to call them.

I now own one of this perky Hyundai HB a/t (40k++kms to date) and sorry to disappoint you but i'm well satisfied with this Korean "KIMCHI" sub-compact (wc I never thought I'd ever consider buying until I test drove one)...even their after sales service is great. This little "Kimchi" car is still performing well and no differnt from the Japs. If I may add...without belittling our HONDA FD 1.8, (wc is also a great car), the little "kimchi" car handles road imperfections better, and sorry to say, has better acceleration than our FD.

Anyway, this is just my first-hand and humble observations having been a licensed driver since the time that drag racing was still done along Makati Ave. during Friday nights....yes, along Makati Ave.

Btw, I always follow the regular PMS that each of our cars required.☺️

[cascais]

My wife and I just wished this Accent HB had bigger and more comfortable seats...but then it might already be asking too much from a sub-compact.

[cascais]

My wife and I just wished this Accent HB had bigger and more comfortable seats...but then it might already be asking too much from a sub-compact.