Hyundai ACCENT Hatch CRDI 1.6

[bloowolf]

Totoo naman. Cause I am in awe of your brilliance.

[dr. d]

What sets Hyundai apart from the Japanese cars is their CRDI engines. And the Accent is the only CRDI offered in it's segment, which is the reason for it's popularity. Hyundai gasoline engines do not have any district advantage over the Japanese. The only brands which compete with Hyundai diesels in this segment are BMW, Volkswagen & Peugeot, all European & expensive. TATA, which is Indian, still remains unproven but looks promising. Unfortunately, for the good "dr", his opinions & judgement on Hyundai is based on what he read & how he interpreted these to make it appear to the gullible readers in this forum that those are expert opinions. Al least he admitted that his comments are just AMATEUR. It is unfortunate that he is limiting his car experiences to Japanese gasoline cars.

please!
in the first place, my spiel was more on marketing issues.
and i didn't say hyundai was trash! i didn't even imply it!
if at all, i implied that something was perceived as better, which is not to be misconstrued that the korean was garbage.
gosh! i certainly hope i did not write something up there, that was patently false...

[dr. d]

Totoo naman. Cause I am in awe of your brilliance.

well, don't say it too often, sir... there are gullible people out there who might believe you.

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Totoo naman. Cause I am in awe of your brilliance.

well, don't say it too often, sir... there are gullible people out there who might believe you.

[bloowolf]

please!
in the first place, my spiel was more on marketing issues.
and i didn't say hyundai was trash! i didn't even imply it!
if at all, i implied that something was perceived as better, which is not to be misconstrued that the korean was garbage.
gosh! i certainly hope i did not write something up there, that was patently false...

You should have someone read back to you your posts.

[andrewnathaniel]

I own Hyundai Accent Hatch and sa 5 years warranty, agree ako sa nasabi ni dr. d.

It has two faces, pwedeng kaya nila sinabi na 5 years warranty eh dahil sa reliable talaga ang mga unit nila at pwede ding kaya 5 years eh para matali yung owner sa casa, so dagdag kita against 3 years ng ibang brand.

Nasa owner na lang kung paano niya bibigyan ng kahulugan yung 5 years.

BTW, we own 3 different car brands, American, Jap, and Korean.
Sa performance lamang talaga yung Korean Diesel. Reliability? In 12 years of used and counting, palit clutch disk si American brand. 4 years and counting, no problems so far with Japanese. 1 year and counting, happy and very satisfied with the performance of Korean brand.


Sorry po OT.

[SkyFlakes88]

I own Hyundai Accent Hatch and sa 5 years warranty, agree ako sa nasabi ni dr. d.

It has two faces, pwedeng kaya nila sinabi na 5 years warranty eh dahil sa reliable talaga ang mga unit nila at pwede ding kaya 5 years eh para matali yung owner sa casa, so dagdag kita against 3 years ng ibang brand.

Nasa owner na lang kung paano niya bibigyan ng kahulugan yung 5 years.

BTW, we own 3 different car brands, American, Jap, and Korean.
Sa performance lamang talaga yung Korean Diesel. Reliability? In 12 years of used and counting, palit clutch disk si American brand. 4 years and counting, no problems so far with Japanese. 1 year and counting, happy and very satisfied with the performance of Korean brand.


Sorry po OT.

Yes i agree! There are pro's and con's of the 5yr warranty but i think the car dealer gets the upper hand in this as you have to religiously stick to the prices of their Pms which is high. It's like little by little they are already charging you for the parts that might fail and if you just miss one Pms then it's very easy for them to just declare your warranty void. In 5yrs you cannot do mods on your car. You are at their mercy ika nga.

[dr. d]

sky, andrew, and unmarked...
sagot ko kayo sa gulliver's!

[kisshmet]

^the japs eschew diesel for a reason its dirty fuel. Their focus on clean fuel speak of their care for the environment

The kimchi wants a piece of the car market and they realize pinoy penchant for diesel engines thats why their offerings are predominantly diesel

To each their own, if one wants cheap and dirty fuel then GOD help our environment for we all breathe the same air

[SkyFlakes88]

sky, andrew, and unmarked...
sagot ko kayo sa gulliver's!

I also have good things to say about Korean made cars. Their newer Crdi engines are really good. also their design. But their Pms prices for the 5yr warranty sucks!

Sir na misunderstood lang kayo ni Sir Bloowolf and i get your point. In fact i share your comments too!

[noel.mrcs]

Guys, I just want to correct the wrong notion that Diesel is dirty fuel. Its the quality of Philippine Diesel that is the problem. In fact if we are meeting Euro 4 (2005) and Euro 5 (2008) standards, diesel is much more cleaner than gasoline in terms of NOX, CO2, and particulates emission.

[cascais]

He's got a point. Forget the facts and experiences. Its about perception and offering more. Korean brands dont suffer frpm quality issues, it is the perceived quality issues from non believers.

Mr. "unmarked", if you would care to read back, maybe you'd have a better understanding of how this topic began so we can then proceed towards a more relevant direction.

[cascais]

OK, just to set it straight. It is just a COMMENTARY BY AN AMATEUR. Thanks.

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[cascais]

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[cascais]

You should have someone read back to you your posts.

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i used to drive korean.
and if you know what your toy can do and can not do, and not tempt her, you'll be fine.
also, i have colleagues who swear that their next car won't be korean... the service leaves much to be desired..

As we all know, Samsung TV was an inferior brand as compared to the Japanese Sony many years ago. Apparently, it seems that Samsung has caught up, or even surpassed Sony nowadays. More value for money in terms of quality and features.

Since this is the 2nd time that you've mentioned about owning "a Korean", it somehow aroused my curiousity as to what year and model it was that you once owned. ?

[cascais]

Sir bloowolf, would you know if there are 3rd party seats (Bride, Recaro or the like) available that would fit the Accent HB?

[dr. d]

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As we all know, Samsung TV was an inferior brand as compared to the Japanese Sony many years ago. Apparently, it seems that Samsung has caught up, or even surpassed Sony nowadays. More value for money in terms of quality and features.

Since this is the 2nd time that you've mentioned about owning "a Korean", it somehow aroused my curiousity as to what year and model it was that you once owned. ?

it was an ancient besta (well, brand new then, ancient now) late 90s model. a mazda clone, if you may.
people might eschew this model now, but at that time, it helped save the company from bankruptcy.
i also had another, also brand new, japanese metal then. and i could compare side by side the merits of each.
my conclusion at that time, was the koreans were still behind the japs..

today, the koreans are moving heaven and earth to announce proudly that their product has greatly improved.
but that hoopla is not enough, they feel. they have to do something else, to convince the buying public to try out their cars... again.
and that is where the 5 year warranty, which is what sparked this lively debate in the first place, comes in.. it was "an unheard-of deal in the industry".
what i did above, was give my thoughts regarding this deal (entry # 3547 above).

so is hyundai now at par with the japanese? i don't know. i don't own a recent-model korean. but the internet is full of opinions.. pro and con..
only time will tell, sirs. a one- or two-year experience with the car, i daresay, is not enough.. the car has to be put thru its paces as it ages.. gracefully..? or shamefully..?

it takes only one well-placed, dis-satisfied customer, to ruin a reputation. in today's internet world, this is as true as ever.
it takes a hundred satisfied ones, to fix it.
hyundai is wooing that hundred, with its 5 year warranty deal.

btw, my colleagues-korean owners, they malign the casa service, not the vehicle.

[cascais]

*aftermarket

[bloowolf]

Sir bloowolf, would you know if there are 3rd party seats (Bride, Recaro or the like) available that would fit the Accent HB?

None I know of. I am not really into modifications. Why not pm this guy in Sorento thread, si JMParaquito. He imports accessories. He might be able to point you to a dealer. Sa Facebook, may page ang Accent owners din. One mod I really want to put is the front strut bar. Di pa ako makahanap dito sa South. Layo kasi ng Banawe.

[SkyFlakes88]

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it was an ancient besta (well, brand new then, ancient now) late 90s model. a mazda clone, if you may.
people might eschew this model now, but at that time, it helped save the company from bankruptcy.
i also had another, also brand new, japanese metal then. and i could compare side by side the merits of each.
my conclusion at that time, was the koreans were still behind the japs..

today, the koreans are moving heaven and earth to announce proudly that their product has greatly improved.
but that hoopla is not enough, they feel. they have to do something else, to convince the buying public to try out their cars... again.
and that is where the 5 year warranty, which is what sparked this lively debate in the first place, comes in.. it was "an unheard-of deal in the industry".
what i did above, was give my thoughts regarding this deal (entry # 3547 above).

so is hyundai now at par with the japanese? i don't know. i don't own a recent-model korean. but the internet is full of opinions.. pro and con..
only time will tell, sirs. a one- or two-year experience with the car, i daresay, is not enough.. the car has to be put thru its paces as it ages.. gracefully..? or shamefully..?

it takes only one well-placed, dis-satisfied customer, to ruin a reputation. in today's internet world, this is as true as ever.
it takes a hundred satisfied ones, to fix it.
hyundai is wooing that hundred, with its 5 year warranty deal.

btw, my colleagues-korean owners, they malign the casa service, not the vehicle.

I think the Koreans should now more concentrate on improving the parts that go into their cars as some friends i know who owns their cars complain of only 2 to 3yrs of use and the suspension parts need to be replaced already. They are at par on some aspects and even surpass the japs on the diesel engine but on some of the parts like suspension they need to put in more durability i think. One thing i observed is the metals they use on parts need to be upgraded to make it more durable. Parang yun timpla nang pagkabakal nila e mahina pa. Just my personal observation mga sir. [emoji4]

[airolynx]

I think the Koreans should now more concentrate on improving the parts that go into their cars as some friends i know who owns their cars complain of only 2 to 3yrs of use and the suspension parts need to be replaced already. They are at par on some aspects and even surpass the japs on the diesel engine but on some of the parts like suspension they need to put in more durability i think. One thing i observed is the metals they use on parts need to be upgraded to make it more durable. Parang yun timpla nang pagkabakal nila e mahina pa. Just my personal observation mga sir. [emoji4]

Just to be fair din sir, I think a huge factor to suspension longevity is the way the car was driven. My sister-in-law's 2011 Vios started showing signs of suspension issues (rack end, stabilizer link and bushing) when it was 2 years old. I had a 2009 City and now I own an HB Accent and I must say, the suspension of my Accent feels more solid than the City. I'll have to wait and see how my Accent will fair against Edsa and daily NLEX use but so far it looks promising. No noise whatsoever at 16k kms clocked in 8 months of daily NLEX driving.