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    #41
    Quote Originally Posted by hardwang View Post
    I can’t believe I live in a time where subcompacts priced above 900k are considered good values. Iba na talaga, dati 800k top of the line na yan. [emoji23]

    But I commend Honda, mabuti hindi pa nila inalis yung manual transmission. Ilan kaya weight increase nito compared sa previous gen?
    Dati rin 330k lang may Corolla ka na. Tapos naging 600k para sa Civic VTi. Tapos 990k may Mazda 3 2.0R ka na.

    Siyempre tataas presyo ng kotse in line with inflation. And to be fair a subcompact today has more space and more featuees vs an older compact.

    And besides incomes are much higher now than they were when cars were cheaper.

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    #42
    Lmao sa RS. All looks, nawala ang turbo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheUninvited View Post
    Lmao sa RS. All looks, nawala ang turbo.
    Buyers naman ng City walang pake sa power mostly. Huge majority of buyers are just looking for point a to point b cars especially at this price range.

    The Fiesta Ecoboost is a sample of how nobody gives a crap about 1.0 turbo power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheUninvited View Post
    Lmao sa RS. All looks, nawala ang turbo.
    Also, 1.0 Turbo not as good on paper as it is in real life. So no need for the added complexity of keeping parts for an all new engine thats barely better than the tried and tested (albeit very old) L15 engine. Though it does get DOHC now.

    22 Honda City - Why we'd rather have the 1.5L NA engine over the 1.L Turbo | Wapcar

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Buyers naman ng City walang pake sa power mostly. Huge majority of buyers are just looking for point a to point b cars especially at this price range.

    The Fiesta Ecoboost is a sample of how nobody gives a crap about 1.0 turbo power.

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    The L15 is pretty decent in terms of output for a 1.5L NA. If not, one of the more potent power plants for small cars.

    The EUDM Honda 1.0L 3-cylinder turbo was about the same in output as the Ford Fox 1.0L Ecoboost (125hp/170Nm). It worked well as the replacement for the old R18 engine for the Civic.

    The biggest advantage of the 1.0L 3-cylinder turbo engine over the 1.5L NA is the additional torque at low rpms.


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    #46
    The jazz with its 1.5 liter vtec was MORE than enough for me. Ive said it a gazillion times...a light, nimble, small car...even with a small engine.... is FUN to drive. Heck even the CVT 1.5 jazz was plenty fun.

    Of course i wouldnt mind the turbo, but those vtec engines rev so high and are so much fun to keep in the powerband with the paddle shifters.





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    Quote Originally Posted by EQAddict View Post
    The jazz with its 1.5 liter vtec was MORE than enough for me. Ive said it a gazillion times...a light, nimble, small car...even with a small engine.... is FUN to drive. Heck even the CVT 1.5 jazz was plenty fun.

    Of course i wouldnt mind the turbo, but those vtec engines rev so high and are so much fun to keep in the powerband with the paddle shifters.





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    I bet the 1.0L turbo engine will make the Jazz and City heavier than what it is now.


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    #48
    The all-new City arrives just in time for Honda Cars PH’s 30th birthday | C!



    Same engine as the previous gen (same as the Mobilio, BR-V and Jazz) means Honda PH won't need to send technicians for training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    The all-new City arrives just in time for Honda Cars PH’s 30th birthday | C!



    Same engine as the previous gen (same as the Mobilio, BR-V and Jazz) means Honda PH won't need to send technicians for training.
    Different engine..same 1.5L displacement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    Different engine..same 1.5L displacement.
    Hmmm, TopGear PH mentioned it's the same engine

    Unfortunately, the engine options bring me back to earth. None of the exciting diesel or turbocharged powerplants are arriving, and we get basically the same 1.5-liter four-cylinder mill as the previous generation, good for 118hp and 145Nm. I suspect cost considerations prevented HCPI from bringing in the more powerful engines.

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    https://www.autoindustriya.com/auto-...p-838-000.html

    With videos for comparison


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    #53
    Same engine (L15) but it's DOHC (L15B) vs the older SOHC (L15A).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Same engine (L15) but it's DOHC (L15B) vs the older SOHC (L15A).

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    Yes DOHC na nga daw sabi nung friend ko na SA


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    Only the RS variant gets fog lights as standard. The other variants don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruyff14 View Post
    Only the RS variant gets fog lights as standard. The other variants don't.

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    You can install an aftermarket one for a lot less than what you will pay for the RS model.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    You can install an aftermarket one for a lot less than what you will pay for the RS model.


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    True. So I guess for me the V variant would give the most value for money over the others.

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    #58
    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    All variants actually look very sulit.

    Even the most basic S already has an 8" touch screen (better than Civic and CRV lol), traction control, and 4 airbags.

    The V adds push button ignition, bigger rims, climate control, leather steering wheel, cruise control, and rear aircon vents. Justifiable 90k upgrade over the S.

    Even the RS will have its fair share of buyers - LED headlights, nicer rims, 8 speakers, 2 more airbags, more leather bits, a different front fascia. Again a justifiable 90k upgrade over the V.

    Then again, the Civic 1.8E is just 140k more than the City RS so still a worthy upgrade if budget allows.

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    For some weird reason, even the S has engine push start button but no smart entry. You have to manually lock/unlock using the remote.

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    Schedule tayo ng test drive. Sabihin natin mga members ng Tsikot forum.


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    #60
    Quote Originally Posted by glntVR View Post
    For some weird reason, even the S has engine push start button but no smart entry. You have to manually lock/unlock using the remote.
    what's "smart entry" ?
    is that when the car door unlocks to your hand's touch when the key fob is within xx feet of the car?
    in my opinion, unless one's car is in one's garage or parked alone in public parking, that's potentially dangerous.
    not that smart, in my opinion.

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