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    #61
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    Iba ba ang driver's license ng motorcycle sa cars? Maybe it'd be best to require motorcyclists a restriction of 2 as well?

    Siguro kung alam ng mga motorcyclists kung gaano sila ka-hirap makita at iwasan, ma-rerealize nila kung bakit dumadami accidente...

    Quote Originally Posted by Gen1 View Post
    nothing beats the motorcycle in terms of fuel efficiency. an XRM goes at 50km/liter. compare that with my suzuki which does 7km to a liter.

    but, yeah, many riders are plain stupid when it comes to motorcycle safety. On open roads I don't go beyond 50kph, I never ride the bike at night, I use the a 3000peso helmet, always wear boots/maong pants/jacket/gloves when riding, and I never ever weave in and out of traffic.

    I drive 4x4s so I know how difficult it is to see motorcycles when driving tall rigs.

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    #62
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow3616931 View Post
    With all of their violations I was still charged for reckless imprudence resulting to homicide, physical injuiry and damage to property by the prosecutor. To avoid these charges and inconvenience in attending hearings coz the accident happened too far from home I ended up paying them 200k, 100k for the driver and 100k to the family of the woman because they claimed that they were not married, f*!$% puro bwitre pala mga yun sigh... kung malasin ka nga naman.
    Grabe pinerahan lang kayo nung family. Hindi kaya kakilala lang nila yung prosecutor?

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    #63
    Quote Originally Posted by raffy56 View Post
    +1

    Iba ba ang driver's license ng motorcycle sa cars? Maybe it'd be best to require motorcyclists a restriction of 2 as well?

    Siguro kung alam ng mga motorcyclists kung gaano sila ka-hirap makita at iwasan, ma-rerealize nila kung bakit dumadami accidente...
    sir, sa driver's license, AFAIK pag wala yung restriction number 1, di ka makakadrive ng motorcycle kahit pa ang restriction mo ay number 2.

    problem ngayon is pag nag-apply ka ng non-pro na license, parang automatic na restrictions 1 and 2 ang nilalagay nila.

    *shadow3616931, sorry to hear what happened to you. tama si sir Reepicheep, pinerahan lang kayo nung pamilya. kung sa akin nangyari yun, i would've answered their charges in court. what with all the obvious violations they've committed. i'm sure with the right lawyer, kayang kaya isalba yung kaso papunta sayo.

    i remembered that i read this article in the motoring section of the philippine star. sabi nila "the law is always fair, its the system that sucks". eto yung link sa article:

    http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx...bCategoryId=72

    ang masasabi ko na lang sa ating mga tsikoteers, todo ingat sa pagmamaneho.

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    #64
    Quote Originally Posted by raffy56 View Post
    Bro, sorry to hear.

    I hope I don't offend you by sharing my opinion. If it happened the way you say it is, then pa-demanda ka na lang. Konting oras lang ung haharap ka sa korte. If the bike's driver is drunk and has no license, wala ka pananagutan. Ma-d-drop ung charges sayo (criminal) ung sa civil charges sasagutin ng TPL. Wala kang gagastusin. In fact, masisingil mo pa sila for the damage sa car mo.
    Quote Originally Posted by Reepicheep View Post
    Grabe pinerahan lang kayo nung family. Hindi kaya kakilala lang nila yung prosecutor?
    Quote Originally Posted by pransis View Post
    sir, sa driver's license, AFAIK pag wala yung restriction number 1, di ka makakadrive ng motorcycle kahit pa ang restriction mo ay number 2.

    problem ngayon is pag nag-apply ka ng non-pro na license, parang automatic na restrictions 1 and 2 ang nilalagay nila.

    *shadow3616931, sorry to hear what happened to you. tama si sir Reepicheep, pinerahan lang kayo nung pamilya. kung sa akin nangyari yun, i would've answered their charges in court. what with all the obvious violations they've committed. i'm sure with the right lawyer, kayang kaya isalba yung kaso papunta sayo.

    i remembered that i read this article in the motoring section of the philippine star. sabi nila "the law is always fair, its the system that sucks". eto yung link sa article:

    http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx...bCategoryId=72

    ang masasabi ko na lang sa ating mga tsikoteers, todo ingat sa pagmamaneho.
    Yup you are all correct yan din sabi ng lawyer ko, actually umabot sa RTC ang case, kasi di namin pinagbigyan yung hinihingi nung FIXcal pinalabas nilang hit and run kasi di ako sinurender ng mga kasama ko, baka daw tirahin ako sa kulungan. Yun ang sinasabi kong mali wala ako kasalanan bakit kelangan ako ikulong during the time of accident.

    then nakipag usap samin yung family nung namatayan na settle nalang daw pumayag na ako kasi namatayan sila and ganon din magagastos ko bayad sa appearance ng lawyer, gas, car wear and tear, board and lodging, bodyguard (delikado lugar), and most impotant is time. Insured naman yung car and nakakuha pa ko 50k sa TPL.

    You know, doon ko nakita gaano ka BULOK batas sa pilipinas, lahat humihingi lalo na mga pulis at piskal

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    #65
    Naku, with an MC driver, buti na lang at mabagal lang ang takbo ko, subdivison kasi. Nananahimik ako mag drive, tapos may humps na sa harap ko bigla ba naman akong icut nung motor at sumabit sya sa bumper ko buti na lang yung plaka lang ang natupi. Ang malupit nun, Las Pinas Traffic aid sya na naka sibilyan. Eh di bumaba, kinatok ako hinihingi lisensya ko dahil reckles driving daw ako at nagpakilala syang pulis.

    Ang ginawa ko pinakita ko lang pero hindi ko ibinigay kahit kinukuha nya. Sabay sabi ko, "Alam mo naman na subdivision ito ganyan ka magmaneho, ako pa ang kakasuhan mo ng reckless driving, eh ikaw naman ang may kasalanan"

    Ang sabi ba naman eh, "Nayupi yung plaka ko pano ba yan? Bayaran mo na lang ako."

    Tapos sabi ko, "Sige, anong pangalan mo at sa opisina mo tayo mag usap para malaman kung sino ang may kasalanan at baka masuspinde kapa at wala kang helmet."

    Ang sagot be naman eh, "Magingat ka na lang sa sususnod."

    Ikaw ang mag ingat, pulis ka nga wala kang helmet at tatanga tanaga ka pa magdrive. Tsk tsk tsk...

    Sorry O.T.

    R.I.P. dun sa rider.

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    #66
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow3616931 View Post
    Yup you are all correct yan din sabi ng lawyer ko, actually umabot sa RTC ang case, kasi di namin pinagbigyan yung hinihingi nung FIXcal pinalabas nilang hit and run kasi di ako sinurender ng mga kasama ko, baka daw tirahin ako sa kulungan. Yun ang sinasabi kong mali wala ako kasalanan bakit kelangan ako ikulong during the time of accident.

    then nakipag usap samin yung family nung namatayan na settle nalang daw pumayag na ako kasi namatayan sila and ganon din magagastos ko bayad sa appearance ng lawyer, gas, car wear and tear, board and lodging, bodyguard (delikado lugar), and most impotant is time. Insured naman yung car and nakakuha pa ko 50k sa TPL.

    You know, doon ko nakita gaano ka BULOK batas sa pilipinas, lahat humihingi lalo na mga pulis at piskal
    naintindihan kita brader. a friend of mine just recently figured in an accident with a scooter rider in makati. from the traffic accident report, it was clear that the rider was at fault. pininahan ba naman siya head-on. hayun, nagkamali ng tantiya at bumagsak as sumadsad sa ilalim ng oto niya. eh kakaulan pa lang nun at medyo umaambon pa. buti na lang eh walang damage yung rider except sprain lang sa isang binti dahil sa pagbagsak. ang siste, yung pang kaibigan ko ang sumagot ng medical bills at areglo sa pamilya nung mokong na rider. aba malaki rin ang nagastos niya! walang pakialam yung rider na di naman mayaman yung kaibigan ko. ipinipilit na siya daw ang binangga nung kaliit-liit na oto nung friend ko. tsk tsk... bakit hindi nag-insist yung kaibigan ko na wala siyang kasalanan? simple lang, ang sabi nung police eh wala siyang laban dahil bodily injury ang tinamo nung rider samantalang siya eh maliit na damage lang sa bumper. mas papaburan daw ang katawan ng tao kesa sasakyan. tapos eh pag di daw umamin yung rider na siya ang me kasalanan (as if naman posible itong gawin nung mokong na rider) eh mahihirapan daw patunayan sa korte na walang kasalanan yung kaibigan ko. in other words, since wala naman apparent damage yung rider, knowing na peperahan lang siya ng mga pulis, fixcal, etc. sinagot na lang niya ang medical bills sa pagpapagamot. now whenever we talk about that event, my friend has no regrets sa gastos niya. sabi niya, tulong na lang daw niya yun. me karma rin naman daw na kapalit yan para sa tunay na me kasalanan... na alam naman namin kung sino.

    sad for us motorist. wala tayong kalaban-laban sa sistema dito sa atin. from another thread, someone mentioned na "the one who has the last chance to avoid the other usually is the one at fault sa accident." sad to say, pag mc rider ang involved, bale wala itong logic na to.

    ingat na lang tayo lagi.

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    #67
    Quote Originally Posted by sgt_taga View Post
    sad for us motorist. wala tayong kalaban-laban sa sistema dito sa atin. from another thread, someone mentioned na "the one who has the last chance to avoid the other usually is the one at fault sa accident." sad to say, pag mc rider ang involved, bale wala itong logic na to.

    ingat na lang tayo lagi.

    Hirap talaga dito sa atin. I also had an accident with a motorcycle nag-overtake sa akin sa right side ko when I was about to make a right turn ayun tumambling siya sa harap ko buti na lang di napuruhan. Ipinagpipilitan pa na ako daw may kasalanan kasi lumiko ako samantalang ang bagal ng andar ko at nakasignal pa ako kasi paliko nga ako at siya itong sumiksik sa gutter para mag overtake.

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    #68
    same rants with you guys.. pero bilib din ako sa inyo at mukhang relax kayo sa mga dinaanan nyong situation with mc drivers.. im not sure pero baka pag sa akin kasi bumaba ako at mabatukan ko pa yang mga engot na yan eh.. hehe..

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    That happened to me as well many years ago sa Taytay, Rizal. Papasok na ko sa parking lot ng Tropical hut (near Siena College), when binangga ng motorcycle yung right fender ko. Apparently nagpatakbo sya ng mabilis while going uphill. Too late na nung downhill na sya me nakita sya na kotse, e medyo trapik papasok sa parking lot. Tumilapon sya ng malayo and while he up in the air I said to myself "malamang patay to pagbagsak." Kase nga ang lato ng tilapon nya. Pero nakatayo naman sya.

    Dumating yung pulis and parents nung MC rider. Sabi nung pulis sa parents "Dalhin nyo sa ospital para ma-checkup agad." Pero nag-insist yung magulang na bigyan ko muna ng pera. Pinagalitan sila nung pulis. Inuuna pa daw yung pera kesa anak nila.

    Sa presinto sabi ko dun sa parents tutulungan ko sila sa medical bills kahit wala ako kasalanan. Pero tumanggi. Kulang daw yun kse totral wreck daw yung motor. Mamaya lumapit sa kin yung pulis pulis (PO3 delos Reyes) at sinabi "Baka maminsinterpret yan ng piskal na kaya ka tumulong e ikaw ang me kasalanan. Magisip ka muna." Kaya di ko na inulit yung offer ko.

    After a few days nagkita ulit kami nung parents sa presinto. nagtaas ng boses. Magdedemanda daw sila. Sinabi ko ng pasigaw dun sa parents na binabawi ko na yung tulong ko sa medical bills kase wala naman ako kasalanan. Pinakita ko yung mga pics nung position ng kotse at the time of impact. And it was obvious na wala ako kasalanan. Pano daw yung pagawa nung motor. Sabi ko "Yun pa pala. Dahil anak nyo me kasalanan, kayo magbabayad nung parepair dun sa kotse ko. At pag hindi pumantay kulay nyan, paparepaint ko ng buo yan at your expense."

    Nakiusap na lang na hwag ko na sila singilin at hindi na daw sila magdedemanda. Sabi ko hintayin yung police report. Paglabas ng police report, at fault yung MC rider. Kaya wala talaga sila karapatan magdemanda. Di ko na siningil. Wala din naman pambayad e.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow3616931 View Post
    Ok, I share my tragic experience with these road idiots

    I was bound for manila cruising along national road on a normal speed, when I was approaching a curve suddenly a bike on the opposite direction running too fast miscalculated the curve approaching very quick toward my direction (counter flow) so I swerved on the right shoulder to avoid them but still hit me head on. I was shocked, they were 3 of them on an underboned bike(xrm), a drunken hell driver, a kid, and an 8 month pregnant woman all of them were not wearing any crash helmet, the driver has no driving license and the bike was not registered. Unfortunately the pregnant woman died (sana yung driver nalang namatay), because of course she was 8 month pregnant she shouldn't ride a bike in that condition, but the driver got minor injuries, the kid just suffered few bruises.

    With all of their violations I was still charged for reckless imprudence resulting to homicide, physical injuiry and damage to property by the prosecutor. To avoid these charges and inconvenience in attending hearings coz the accident happened too far from home I ended up paying them 200k, 100k for the driver and 100k to the family of the woman because they claimed that they were not married, f*!$% puro bwitre pala mga yun sigh... kung malasin ka nga naman.

    I was just a simple motorist who just passed by in a place in a very wrong time...

    Anyone of us may charge the same way like mine even how careful you are in the road. There must be something wrong with our law.
    Gumastos ka na lang din ng ganyan kalaki eh sana lumaban ka na sa korte, malinaw naman na wala kang kasalanan eh.

    Then pag bayarin mo sila sa lahat ng abala.

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    #71
    i really rejoice when i see in the news a motorcycle rider die all by himself.. especially of his own stupidity... at least nabawasan sila.. hahaha

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    #72
    ^^
    Wala bang like button? (No offence to disciplined MC riders out there.)

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    #73
    Two days ago sa may Kalentong may van na nagmamaneobra paatras (slowly). Nakastop na ang ibang cars pero yung motorcycle na may angkas pa na babae and bata sobrang bilis sumingit and konti na lang salpok na sila. Di man lang makahintay. Eh yung van is service vehicle ng funeral parlor. Kung sakali diretso na sana sila sakay dun :D


    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    i really rejoice when i see in the news a motorcycle rider die all by himself.. especially of his own stupidity... at least nabawasan sila.. hahaha

    Naunahan mo ako... I was about to post the same pero I hesitated at baka may magalit. Pero ganyan din feeling ko every time may nakikita akong nakasemplang na motor. Sorry to motorcyclists here- Just voicing out.

    Sabagay mga motorcycle riders na tsikoteers are disciplined naman (I hope) siguro since nagbabasa sila dito.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garci View Post
    Two days ago sa may Kalentong may van na nagmamaneobra paatras (slowly). Nakastop na ang ibang cars pero yung motorcycle na may angkas pa na babae and bata sobrang bilis sumingit and konti na lang salpok na sila. Di man lang makahintay. Eh yung van is service vehicle ng funeral parlor. Kung sakali diretso na sana sila sakay dun :D


    Naunahan mo ako... I was about to post the same pero I hesitated at baka may magalit. Pero ganyan din feeling ko every time may nakikita akong nakasemplang na motor. Sorry to motorcyclists here- Just voicing out.

    Sabagay mga motorcycle riders na tsikoteers are disciplined naman (I hope) siguro since nagbabasa sila dito.
    Badtrip nga mga yan(Huwag matamaan mga disciplined "riders") parating nagmamadali. Kala mo parating may LBM. Around 80 to 90% of the time huminto na mga kotse, sisiksik pa din tong mga motor.

    Ako mas natatawa kapag 2 undisciplined riders hit each other. Minus 2 agad. hehehe

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    #75
    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    i really rejoice when i see in the news a motorcycle rider die all by himself.. especially of his own stupidity... at least nabawasan sila.. hahaha


    (Like)

    hehehe...

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    #76
    hindi kaya defective yun mga motor nila? walang preno? kasi parang hindi pwdeng huminto kaya singit ng singit kahit alanganin
    hihinto lang pag nabangga na

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    #77
    Quote Originally Posted by greenlyt View Post
    hindi kaya defective yun mga motor nila? walang preno? kasi parang hindi pwdeng huminto kaya singit ng singit kahit alanganin
    hihinto lang pag nabangga na
    sad to say bro, but utak ang defective sa mga yan..kaya nga idiot tawag sa kanila eh..

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    #78
    Quote Originally Posted by akosiempoy View Post
    same rants with you guys.. pero bilib din ako sa inyo at mukhang relax kayo sa mga dinaanan nyong situation with mc drivers.. im not sure pero baka pag sa akin kasi bumaba ako at mabatukan ko pa yang mga engot na yan eh.. hehe..

    Same here. Kung ako nasa position na ganyan. Baka pag mumurahin ko pa mga engot na walang pakialam sa ibang tao.

    Nangiipit at nang-ka cut ako ng walang modong motorsiklo. Naiinis ako sa gawain ng mga yan. I AM A Motorcycle Rider pero nagiinit ang ulo ko pag may nakasabay na ganyan dahil di ko gawain yan.

    I even fall in line sa mall entrance/exit parking booths! Sinisigawan ko ang sumisingit na motor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shibby75 View Post
    Same here. Kung ako nasa position na ganyan. Baka pag mumurahin ko pa mga engot na walang pakialam sa ibang tao.

    Nangiipit at nang-ka cut ako ng walang modong motorsiklo. Naiinis ako sa gawain ng mga yan. I AM A Motorcycle Rider pero nagiinit ang ulo ko pag may nakasabay na ganyan dahil di ko gawain yan.

    I even fall in line sa mall entrance/exit parking booths! Sinisigawan ko ang sumisingit na motor.
    Dapat siguro well educated ang mga nag momotor dito sa pinas. sa japan ang motor is same with a car. you cant cut ng alanganin hindi porket nasaktan ang nag momotor sagutin na ng nabunggo niya. ika nga sa pinas lang iyan

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    #80
    Share ko lang nanayari sa akin, Traffic along quirino mag left turn going hi-way. May lokolokong Motor pinagkasya yun sarili sa harapan ko, yun sabit nung nanikita niya sumabit. wala na nagmadali nang umalis. di ko na nahabol. actually di ko na matandaan yun motor kasi parepareho itsura nila. Maybe not applicable to all, pero mga LANGAW sila sa kalye. hahahahahah

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