BUS accident again

[SoleusBB]

Rode the bus earlier.
First time in a long while i felt sick. Driver was weaving in and out of the spaces and braking and accelerating hard.
Dilat mata. [emoji33]

May ganyan magdrive, kahit sa FX. Lalo na yung nasanay na sa hard breaking all the time.

Kita mo talaga yung mga engot na driver on the road, even if sabihin natin na profession nila yan & should know better. Imagine, flooring the accelerator para humataw ng 2 car lengths, then prepreno ng todo todo.... dahil lang ayaw masingitan , whether a competing PUV or kahit na private vehicle (?!?!)

Nakakahilo nga yan, wasteful pa sa krudo.

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Yung ginawa ko nun, pagbaba ko bumili ako ng small bottle of Sprite sa 7-11 kasi nasususka na rin ako

[chronicle]

May ganyan magdrive, kahit sa FX. Lalo na yung nasanay na sa hard breaking all the time.

Kita mo talaga yung mga engot na driver on the road, even if sabihin natin na profession nila yan & should know better. Imagine, flooring the accelerator para humataw ng 2 car lengths, then prepreno ng todo todo.... dahil lang ayaw masingitan , whether a competing PUV or kahit na private vehicle (?!?!)

Nakakahilo nga yan, wasteful pa sa krudo.

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Yung ginawa ko nun, pagbaba ko bumili ako ng small bottle of Sprite sa 7-11 kasi nasususka na rin ako

Makalamang. That's their motto.
Although some bus drivers are maingat naman especially the older ones.

Bata at mukang nakabatak lang talaga tong bus drver kanina. Guess they know there's less chance of being flagged down on sunday.

Lto is part of the problem and should be cleaned up as well.

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[istan]

It might surprise you to learn sir, I once saw a mini bus' roof being built with wood and a whole lot of bondo (masilya).

It's no wonder they wreck easily, they're made from the cheapest materials they can scrounge.

I know, i saw a bus body being built using 2x4 wood, a lot of angle bars and flat bars, plus stainless sheets.
That was in the 90's. May mga branding na mga bus now di ba?

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[Verbl Kint]

Naku, malakas ang ulan!


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[sparc179]

I know, i saw a bus body being built using 2x4 wood, a lot of angle bars and flat bars, plus stainless sheets.
That was in the 90's. May mga branding na mga bus now di ba?

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They still do it today when they need to repair the body and other external structures. We have to remember that they have very small budgets for repair and maintenance of their vehicles. That's why so many of them break down, and worse, lose their brakes.

More-so the colorum buses that ply the major routes without any kind of proper documentation. Do we really think their vehicles are inspected and regulated for safety here in Da Pilipins?

Death traps, every one of them.

[box_type]

Maybe in rare instances. Mostly not.

I can give you one instance though, when we are somewhere in CAR and we experienced a total whiteout, we can barely see what's in front and what's behind. The hazard lights of whats on front helped out a lot.
And no, pulling over and waiting out is not an option. Bangin on the sides.

In the bus case that is on the news, he may have overestimated his skills and ability.

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parklights and headlights are more than enough and it is the right way....

[SoleusBB]

May mga branding na mga bus now di ba?

Yes. The "brand" is called: JAPAN SURPLUS.

[SoleusBB]

Those commuter buses and trucks plying the highways in Japan eventually wind up here- and not just as surplus parts, but as reconditioned vehicles. Converted lang from right hand drive.

Sometimes when I go on vacation there, medyo na-lulungkot ako. You have to take the bus for some routes not served by trains & subways, and if nagtitipid ako kasi not worth it kumuha ng JR Pass sa mga pupuntahan ko, I take the long distance overnight buses.

Napapansin ko itsura ng mga buses and trucks na ito when they were in good condition (even some dekotora trucks on the highway) and you realize that these vehicles will eventually be disposed of dito sa Pilipinas. One truck I saw here still had the markings of the former Japanese company that operated it.

It's such a downer to realize na TAMBAKAN LANG TAYO NG MGA BASURA ng ibang bansa, and grateful pa tayo for their... trash (kasi nakamura and/or tipid sa pieza). Marami man magalit sa akin dito saying we are a sh*thole country, well, it's true.

[yebo]

In poor visibility condition , turning on the hazzard lights could help prevent accidents.

What? You do not deserve to be given a license to drive! You are only confusing other drivers by turning on your hazard lights. Other drivers (those that know how to drive, NOT YOU) will think you have an emergency and you are stopping because that is why ot is called "hazard light", to signal that your vehicle has an emergency and it has now or soon be a hazard on the road. Otherwise how in hell can you signal which way you are going if your hazard lights are on?????

On poor visibility (rain, fog, night time) you turn ON your lights - head lights, front fog lights and rear fog lights. You do NOT turn on your hazard lights.

[Egan101]

What? You do not deserve to be given a license to drive! You are only confusing other drivers by turning on your hazard lights. Other drivers (those that know how to drive, NOT YOU) will think you have an emergency and you are stopping because that is why ot is called "hazard light", to signal that your vehicle has an emergency and it has now or soon be a hazard on the road. Otherwise how in hell can you signal which way you are going if your hazard lights are on?????

On poor visibility (rain, fog, night time) you turn ON your lights - head lights, front fog lights and rear fog lights. You do NOT turn on your hazard lights.

Sad to say, marami ring kamote drivers at hindi lang kamote riders.

[n_spinner06]

What? You do not deserve to be given a license to drive! You are only confusing other drivers by turning on your hazard lights. Other drivers (those that know how to drive, NOT YOU) will think you have an emergency and you are stopping because that is why ot is called "hazard light", to signal that your vehicle has an emergency and it has now or soon be a hazard on the road. Otherwise how in hell can you signal which way you are going if your hazard lights are on?????

On poor visibility (rain, fog, night time) you turn ON your lights - head lights, front fog lights and rear fog lights. You do NOT turn on your hazard lights.

Ito medyo ot...pero naisip ko lang. Given na yung proper use of hazard lights alam na natin yan. Pero paano magiging more dangerous ang kamote na nakahazard sa ulan? If you are a prudent driver (defensive driver at that) following somebody na nakahazard in lowvis conditions, wouldnt you stay further away with the assumption that indeed hazard siya i.e. slow down or increase your separation? Potential hazard nga which could suddenly veer left or right (hydroplane etc) or slow down abruptly anytime? Mas kamote yung didikit o magoovertake (dito lang tingin ko issue yung di makasignal left or right) at speed kung totoong low visibility imho. Otherwise generally mabagal at diretso lang takbo kung adverse weather...there's this study before iirc that flashing lights allow you to notice and see farther so attention grabbing siya although pag steady masmadali matancha ang vector (speed, direction, etc). For me personally, i'd rather be able to see the guy and make adjustments rather than mabulaga. Pag nagkabangaan, more than the improper use of hazard lights, e yung kamoteng dumikit at mabilis ang takbo low visibility na nga.

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[chris_d]

Pag maulan at nasa Skyway at nagstart mag hazard lights yung iba lumilipat na ako sa lane na walang naka hazard kasi alam ko nde marunong mag drive ng proper yung naka hazard dahil lang maulan. So I guess its a sign not to follow those drivers.

[yebo]

Ito medyo ot...pero naisip ko lang. Given na yung proper use of hazard lights alam na natin yan. Pero paano magiging more dangerous ang kamote na nakahazard sa ulan? If you are a prudent driver (defensive driver at that) following somebody na nakahazard in lowvis conditions, wouldnt you stay further away with the assumption that indeed hazard siya i.e. slow down or increase your separation? Potential hazard nga which could suddenly veer left or right (hydroplane etc) or slow down abruptly anytime? Mas kamote yung didikit o magoovertake (dito lang tingin ko issue yung di makasignal left or right) at speed kung totoong low visibility imho. Otherwise generally mabagal at diretso lang takbo kung adverse weather...there's this study before iirc that flashing lights allow you to notice and see farther so attention grabbing siya although pag steady masmadali matancha ang vector (speed, direction, etc). For me personally, i'd rather be able to see the guy and make adjustments rather than mabulaga. Pag nagkabangaan, more than the improper use of hazard lights, e yung kamoteng dumikit at mabilis ang takbo low visibility na nga.

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Well it goes both ways. Let us not mince words. T*nga na nga yung nasa harap tappos t*nga pa din nasa likod e it is an accident waiting to happen. Do not blame the fool behind when both fools are wrong.

[SoleusBB]

Pag nagkabangaan, more than the improper use of hazard lights, e yung kamoteng dumikit at mabilis ang takbo low visibility na nga.

Maraming species ang kamote na driver.

-meron yung maling gumamit ng hazard light;
-meron din yung didikitan pa yung engot na naka hazard light. Masama na nga yung panahon eh, di pa doblehin ang pag-iingat.

Eh di ba yung bus na nakaaksidente sa thread na ito, rear ended a crosswind slowing down because of heavy rain?

[SoleusBB]

Pero agree ako dun sa post ni Chronicle. In certain *exceptional* situations tulad ng nangyari sa kanya:

-near total whiteout;
-narrow 2 lane road in the mountains, bangin katabi ng isang lane, the mountain side on the other;
-no option of waiting it out by stopping somewhere...

Justified na yung mag hazard, because almost desperate na rin yung situation... and you need every bit of visibility you can muster under those circumstances. Pero sa 99% of other situations, wala talaga reason mag hazard.

When your front lights are on, the (red) highly visible tail lights are on, and they glow even brighter when you step on the brakes.

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So yung mga ginawang "disco light" yung rear bulbs nila, pina smoked yung rear lenses, o kaya ginawang clear kaya tuloy parang park light na lang... well, danger kayo not only sa sarili nyo but to everyone else on the road.

[ale828]

Ito medyo ot...pero naisip ko lang. Given na yung proper use of hazard lights alam na natin yan. Pero paano magiging more dangerous ang kamote na nakahazard sa ulan? If you are a prudent driver (defensive driver at that) following somebody na nakahazard in lowvis conditions, wouldnt you stay further away with the assumption that indeed hazard siya i.e. slow down or increase your separation? Potential hazard nga which could suddenly veer left or right (hydroplane etc) or slow down abruptly anytime? Mas kamote yung didikit o magoovertake (dito lang tingin ko issue yung di makasignal left or right) at speed kung totoong low visibility imho. Otherwise generally mabagal at diretso lang takbo kung adverse weather...there's this study before iirc that flashing lights allow you to notice and see farther so attention grabbing siya although pag steady masmadali matancha ang vector (speed, direction, etc). For me personally, i'd rather be able to see the guy and make adjustments rather than mabulaga. Pag nagkabangaan, more than the improper use of hazard lights, e yung kamoteng dumikit at mabilis ang takbo low visibility na nga.

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Those drivers who use the hazard light are probably those who don't even signal when they turn.

AFAIK there is no rules in any international or Philippine driving handbook that states that you have to put your hazard on when its raining hard and the visibility is compromised. Even your car's Handbook doesn't state that. I think this is one of those mistaken rules that has been handed down from a previous older generation of drivers.
there are also those drivers who turn on their Brights when its raining hard or in a Fog. same drivers who uses the hazard light on heavy rain.

[Little Missy]

Nasa LTO exam siya ircc. Isa sa wrong answers yung mag-on ng hazzard light kapag umuulan. When I checked the lto reviewer online here's what it says:


This make sense.

[ray_noel]

Nice share LM. Malamang hindi nag tsitsikot yung mga nag hahazard pag malakas ulan...


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[box_type]

Nasa LTO exam siya ircc. Isa sa wrong answers yung mag-on ng hazzard light kapag umuulan. When I checked the lto reviewer online here's what it says:


This make sense.

napapaisip tuloy ako dun sa mga nagiinsist na gamitin ang hazzard lights pag umuulan or low visibility na hindi sila nagexam sa LTO or probably nagpalakad ng license nila sa mga fixers,

like i have always said again and again..."YOUR HEADLIGHTS AND TAIL LIGHTS ARE MORE THAN ENOUGH FOR YOU TO BE SEEN IN LOW VISIBILITY SITUATIONS!!!"


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[dr. d]

Nasa LTO exam siya ircc. Isa sa wrong answers yung mag-on ng hazzard light kapag umuulan. When I checked the lto reviewer online here's what it says:


This make sense.

i have a theory.
yes, you lose the ability to tell those behind you, in what direction your car is going, when you activate your hazard lights during poor-visibility driving situations.
but the reason is not because you lose your turn signals.

the reason is this.
think of dancers in a darkly-lit disco, with strobed lights. the smooth movement of the dancer is lost, and the observer loses the ability to guess what the dancer is going to do next.
same with cars. when the hazard lights are on, the driver behind loses the ability to anticipate where the vehicle in front is moving to.
multiply the number of cars with hazard lights on, and you can see how much confusion that can generate for everybody.

in contrast, when one uses his continuously-lit tail lights, the movement is smooth, and the driver behind can actually guess with reasonable accuracy, where the car in front is moving to.

my opinion.