Bad motoring etiquette: What you hate the most.

[sgt_taga]

Actually, I would understand why some people do that.

Reasons like, he/she may have noticed that you are too slow. so if he/she will give way, then he/she needs to slow down and step on the break. I for one do this, because I hate it when I am at a certain speed, and somebody changes to my lane, and that car is slow as a turtle.

In the US, people give way. why is that? because they have speed limits. if a road says 35mph, everyone stays near that, with a plus minus 2 tolerance. driving at 15mph on 35mph road will net you a ticket. I know, because I failed a driving test in the US because of this.

Now, its a different story if that car needs to transfer to your lane because he needs to turn left later on, or, if that car has almost the same speed as yours.

Its going with the flow of the speed of traffic.

brader, when i said "i don't drive fast", i didn't mean i drive slow... or "too slow" as you put it. besides, where in manila can you drive fast anyway?

also, we do have speed limits sa streets sa metro. trouble is most of us pinoy drivers choose to ignore them than be responsible as when we are in the US, Subic, etc.

here's the thing, when someone goes to your lane, unless you allow them to, it is hard to judge whether they are too slow or fast enough for you. during the change of lane in busy streets, it is understandable to reduce speed a bit at times to show your courtesy and care on your intent. when you get to the lane, that is when you can really return to your normal cruising speed if possible. afterall, we are driving at busy streets and not the f1 racetracks.

i'm not questioning the driving skills. i'm just saying that, to me, it is a bit rude and arrogant not to give way if all the right driving protocols in changing lane have been followed by your fellow road user.

just imagine, nakapasok na yung harap sa lane eh haharurutan mo pa para lang di ka maunahan? buti bro di ka pa nakakaenkwentro ng pikon na barumbado. kungdi, banggaan tiyak ang resulta nung ganyan.

ingat lang po lagi.

[blueray333]

brader, when i said "i don't drive fast", i didn't mean i drive slow... or "too slow" as you put it. besides, where in manila can you drive fast anyway?

also, we do have speed limits sa streets sa metro. trouble is most of us pinoy drivers choose to ignore them than be responsible as when we are in the US, Subic, etc.

here's the thing, when someone goes to your lane, unless you allow them to, it is hard to judge whether they are too slow or fast enough for you. during the change of lane in busy streets, it is understandable to reduce speed a bit at times to show your courtesy and care on your intent. when you get to the lane, that is when you can really return to your normal cruising speed if possible. afterall, we are driving at busy streets and not the f1 racetracks.

i'm not questioning the driving skills. i'm just saying that, to me, it is a bit rude and arrogant not to give way if all the right driving protocols in changing lane have been followed by your fellow road user.

just imagine, nakapasok na yung harap sa lane eh haharurutan mo pa para lang di ka maunahan? buti bro di ka pa nakakaenkwentro ng pikon na barumbado. kungdi, banggaan tiyak ang resulta nung ganyan.

ingat lang po lagi.

I believe one of the protocols in driving when changing lanes is not to slow down. If you do, you will only cause an accident to the car behind you, and the car that is going to be behind you when you change lanes. Though, this is not the case if it's a bumper to bumper traffic.

It is not about traffic and f1 driving, its about having the same speed with other cars, it can either be 20kph, or 10kph for that matter. A person that has been driving long enough can measure a cars speed by looking at their speedometer.

I agree that it would be rude not to give way, but it is more rude and accident prone if a car gave way, and you are slower than him/her.

[CVT]

I believe one of the protocols in driving when changing lanes is not to slow down. If you do, you will only cause an accident to the car behind you, and the car that is going to be behind you when you change lanes. Though, this is not the case if it's a bumper to bumper traffic.

It is not about traffic and f1 driving, its about having the same speed with other cars, it can either be 20kph, or 10kph for that matter. A person that has been driving long enough can measure a cars speed by looking at their speedometer.

I agree that it would be rude not to give way, but it is more rude and accident prone if a car gave way, and you are slower than him/her.

Agree with you bro..... You need to be at least at the same speed as the cars on the lane you're transferring.... Kaso,- maraming eng-eng dito... Kukunin ang lane kung nasaan ka, tapos super bagal naman and worse, hindi na aalis sa lane na iyon....

In the US for example, when coming from a "side street", merging with the traffic in the Freeway, you have to step hard on your accelerator to attain/exceed the speed of the cars on the Freeway to be able to smoothly merge with them. Else, mabubunggo ka nila....

There are places where you have a stop and go traffic light for merging... Pakiramdam ko nga, Naval Pilot na binibigyan nang go signal to take off sa Aircraft Carrier.... :hysterical:

9404:vader:

[blueray333]

Agree with you bro..... You need to be at least at the same speed as the cars on the lane you're transferring.... Kaso,- maraming eng-eng dito... Kukunin ang lane kung nasaan ka, tapos super bagal naman and worse, hindi na aalis sa lane na iyon....

In the US for example, when coming from a "side street", merging with the traffic in the Freeway, you have to step hard on your accelerator to attain/exceed the speed of the cars on the Freeway to be able to smoothly merge with them. Else, mabubunggo ka nila....

There are places where you have a stop and go traffic light for merging... Pakiramdam ko nga, Naval Pilot na binibigyan nang go signal to take off sa Aircraft Carrier.... :hysterical:

9404:vader:

You are definitely correct CVT. When merging, I step on the gas real hard to gain the speed as fast as possible, else, I will really be in an accident, if not, I will be getting a lot of dirty fingers from the oncoming cars.

if your lane is on a stop position, and the other lane is moving forward, then you opt to move to that lane, you should make sure that oncoming cars are far behind, and that you step on the pedal to the metal to gain the natural speed of the oncoming cars, else, you will have an accident.

I think their purpose for the stop and go when merging in the freeway is to make sure there is ample distance between you and the car in front of you. Not sure though

[xtremerider]

just imagine, nakapasok na yung harap sa lane eh haharurutan mo pa para lang di ka maunahan? buti bro di ka pa nakakaenkwentro ng pikon na barumbado. kungdi, banggaan tiyak ang resulta nung ganyan.

ingat lang po lagi.

Any ideas why this driver change lane in a busy traffic street?

I have some:

* If the driver will turn left or right in the approaching intersection...
* If the driver feels there's something wrong with the car...( emegency stop to a nearest shoulder...
* If the driver will do an overtaking.

How about the driver just change lane because he wanted to outrun the traffic...in your case, do you allow to outsmart you inspite of your patient to follow the flow of traffic...

Yan ang nakakainis at dapat di pinagbibigyan kse pikon din ako eh...

[sgt_taga]

mga katoto, please read carefully my original post. the point i was making was that, to me, it is rude not to give way kung nasa lugar ang nagcha-change lane. kung di tayo magbibigayan, talagang walang mangayayaring improvement sa kalsada.

defensive driving lang po sana tayo. makakarating rin naman tayo lang sa pupuntahan natin eh.

[sgt_taga]

Any ideas why this driver change lane in a busy traffic street?

I have some:

* If the driver will turn left or right in the approaching intersection...
* If the driver feels there's something wrong with the car...( emegency stop to a nearest shoulder...
* If the driver will do an overtaking.

How about the driver just change lane because he wanted to outrun the traffic...in your case, do you allow to outsmart you inspite of your patient to follow the flow of traffic...

Yan ang nakakainis at dapat di pinagbibigyan kse pikon din ako eh...

brader, ganyan din ako nung baguhan lang ako sa pagmamaneho.

hope you will learn to control the "pikon" emotion when behind the wheel soon. its really not worth it, bro.

[blueray333]

mga katoto, please read carefully my original post. the point i was making was that, to me, it is rude not to give way kung nasa lugar ang nagcha-change lane. kung di tayo magbibigayan, talagang walang mangayayaring improvement sa kalsada.

defensive driving lang po sana tayo. makakarating rin naman tayo lang sa pupuntahan natin eh.

No comment. Just think about it.

[xtremerider]

brader, ganyan din ako nung baguhan lang ako sa pagmamaneho.

hope you will learn to control the "pikon" emotion when behind the wheel soon. its really not worth it, bro.

Definitely I'm not new into driving...I drive for almost 18yrs...at dito lang sa pinas malimit ako mapikon...but what to do! Piso lang katapat nyan pag napipikon....

[judoman]

share ko lang: marami na rin po ako naencounter na ganyan. nagsi-signal ako para switch ng lane tapos aaccelerate yung nasa malayo. kahit magkanda-utot na yung diesel nya wag lang maunahan. labo.

pag may gusto punta sa lane ko pinapatay ko yung headlamps ko para di na sya magtagal or magdalawang-isip para less pikon yung mga nasa likod nya kung masyado sya mabagal. trouble is.. yung nasa likod ko naman yung pikon. oh Pilipinas...

eto po another share: *kanina lang kasi

cruising at highway speed tapos green yung light sa intersection. may motor sa harap ko na same speed lang rin. di na ko nag-oovertake kasi acceptable naman yung bilis nya at nasa gitna sya. bigla ba naman na nag-full stop bago sa intersection. buti nakapagpreno ako. puno kami sa sasakyan. kaskas gulong at amoy sunog. tapos tingin sya saken then tinuro ko yung green light tapos nag-Uturn na sya. kaya mahalaga yung nasa optimal yung condition talaga pag nagddrive. ibang driver yun patak un kasi baka inaantok na. tsaka braking na aligned ang front and rear tires. shempre dapat may distansya. dun sa MC rider, ingat sa susunod. pag truck nasa likod mo sa drainage ang bagsak ng katas-katas mo. XD

[roberto_minosa]

Agree with you bro..... You need to be at least at the same speed as the cars on the lane you're transferring.... Kaso,- maraming eng-eng dito... Kukunin ang lane kung nasaan ka, tapos super bagal naman and worse, hindi na aalis sa lane na iyon....

In the US for example, when coming from a "side street", merging with the traffic in the Freeway, you have to step hard on your accelerator to attain/exceed the speed of the cars on the Freeway to be able to smoothly merge with them. Else, mabubunggo ka nila....

There are places where you have a stop and go traffic light for merging... Pakiramdam ko nga, Naval Pilot na binibigyan nang go signal to take off sa Aircraft Carrier.... :hysterical:

9404:vader:

Kind of like drag racing. Since I wasn't used to the culture of American drivers, I was sometimes nervous as a passenger whenever we entered an on-ramp to a freeway. But it's pretty normal for them, maybe because drivers there have mutual trush other, expecting the other guy to give way for the accelerating car. Probably S.O.P.

No such thing here; if in doubt, flat out. Otherwise I'd be stuck on a ditch or a sidewalk. I'd have to assert my right of way, so to speak.

[Dr.Kamiya]

My personal pet peeve is lights! I'm gonna go off on a rant here, so please bear with me.

Approaching a junction to turn left, I slow down to let oncoming traffic past. I'm already quite clearly stopped, but half of the time inconsiderate fools just have to flash their high beams at me! For chrissakes I was already stopped!

Then there are the people who drive around with the high beams on all the time, and idiots who turn on their rear foglights when there's no fog!

Yes I know rear fogs are pretty rare here, but that's not a good enough reason to switch it on unnecessarily.

[roberto_minosa]

If you guys happen to drive around in Subic, notice how other drivers hesitate to move along. Those who are supposed to cross an intersection stop and wonder if it's really their turn to move. Half of them have no idea about right-of-way.

[praetor91313]

Approaching a junction to turn left, I slow down to let oncoming traffic past. I'm already quite clearly stopped, but half of the time inconsiderate fools just have to flash their high beams at me! For chrissakes I was already stopped!

I believe they're just trying to be cautious coz some drivers would suddenly speed up even even when there's inadequate space just so they can cross the junction faster. I encounter those drivers too, but I don't mind.

I hate those drivers who flash their high beams even when I have the right of way. I had one encounter once, I was on a steep incline going up on a two-lane road and the lane going the opposite way had a parked car blocking its way. I was approaching the parked car when an owner-type jeepney appeared and flashed its lights at me then swerved onto my lane.

I honked my horn coz I couldn't go through since the jeepney was blocking my path; the driver angrily went back to her lane (she looked like a lesbian) and when we came shoulder-to-shoulder I heard her cursing so I pulled down my window and asked her what was wrong. She was yelling, "Inilawan na kita a!" I told her, "So?" She said, "Dapat pinadaan mo muna ko!"

I explained to her that I had the right of way since I was approaching the obstruction first, and I was on an incline going up, and my lane was clear while hers was blocked so by all rules, I had the right to go first.

She kept shouting, "E inilawan na kita e!". I proceeded to drive away while my window was rolling up and I told her, " Hay... mahirap makipag-usap sa mga bobo." Wahahaha! I heard her shouting, " Sino'ng bobo? Ga*o ka a! P*k you!"

I know, I know... I shouldn't have gotten down to her level, but that was years ago when I was still an aggressive driver.

[Dr.Kamiya]

Haha I bet you a beer she thinks its sort of a playground game. First to flash wins!
Tag, you're it!

[digitalron]

Yeah, playing tag with the blinking headlights is a also a pet peeve of mine, especially with respect to the yellow box in intersections. We have a right-of-way-rule that the car on the right has right of way in an intersection "if both cars approach the intersection at the same time." However, some drivers think that in conjunction with blinking the headlights, they automatically have right of way even if they a over a dozen meters away from the intersection while you are already in it. Grrr!

Just a reminder to all (From the LTO website, http://www.lto.gov.ph/defense2.html -- and my apologies if this has already been posted before):

Right of Way Rules are:
1.) First Time Vehicle Rule
At all intersections without "stop" or "yield" signs, slow down and prepare to stop. Yield to vehicles already in the intersection or about to enter it.

2.) Same Time Vehicle Rule
At all intersections without "stop" or "yield" signs (or with stops in all directions). Yield to the vehicle on your right if it has reached the intersection of same time as your vehicle.

3.) Stop Signs
Stop at any limit line or crosswalk. Yield to all approaching vehicles on the through street, go only when it is safe for you to cross. Approaching vehicles should slow down and allow you to get across safely.

4.) Left Turn
Signal left turn and yield to approaching traffic until it is completely safe to finish the turn.

5.) Rotonda
Vehicles around the rotunda have the right-of-way over vehicles which are just about to enter.

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[digitalron]

Taxi and Pajero blocking the pedestrian lane at Makati Avenue corner Kalayaan. Note the traffic light. Taxi was really brazen, Pajero, a bit shy in doing the bad deed. Hehehe.



Corolla and motorcycles block the pedestrian lanes at Ortigas corner C5. Note the traffic light. The Corrolla's position was such because iniitally it was beside me. Seeing that I didn't move forward when the traffic light turned red on us, the driver (a she!) maneuvered to get ahead of me. Tsk! Tsk! Tsk!




In Tiendesitas, a big "Wrong Way" sign non-chalantly ignored by this vehicle who is in a rush to beat other cars to a just-vacated parking slot.

[coiter]

In Tiendesitas, a big "Wrong Way" sign non-chalantly ignored by this vehicle who is in a rush to beat other cars to a just-vacated parking slot.

hay naku, sa lahat ata ng mall may gumagawa nito at never pa akong nakakita ng mall guard na sumita. nakakainis lalo yung palabas ka ng parking slot at may nakahintay na nakaharap sa wrong way. syempre pagsalubong mo kelangan nilang umatras. sasamaan ka pa ng tingin at parang ikaw pa mali or bobo.

[CVT]

Corolla and motorcycles block the pedestrian lanes at Ortigas corner C5. Note the traffic light. The Corrolla's position was such because iniitally it was beside me. Seeing that I didn't move forward when the traffic light turned red on us, the driver (a she!) maneuvered to get ahead of me. Tsk! Tsk! Tsk!

Iyan ang utak nana, kahit pa babae pa siya.... Ang orientation kasi rito,- kapag may masasaksakan,- e di saksakan..... Kaya walang paggalang sa open intersections, open pedestrian lanes, bangketa, opposite lane(counterflow) at iba pa... Gridlock ang nangyayari dahil sa mga balasubas na ito, mapa sasakyan, tricycle, motor, (padyak o kariton)....

9505:spam:

[sgt_taga]

Iyan ang utak nana, kahit pa babae pa siya.... Ang orientation kasi rito,- kapag may masasaksakan,- e di saksakan..... Kaya walang paggalang sa open intersections, open pedestrian lanes, bangketa, opposite lane(counterflow) at iba pa... Gridlock ang nangyayari dahil sa mga balasubas na ito, mapa sasakyan, tricycle, motor, (padyak o kariton)....

9505:spam:

tama ka dito, brader. terible na talaga ang kawalan ng disiplina sa mga kalye natin. ano nga kaya ang mabisang solusyon sa problemang ito?

ang hirap kase eh pag naglagay ng istriktong opisyal para ipatupad ang tamang batas eh daming nagrereklamo. kung wala naman eh nagrereklamo pa rin. sala sa init sala sa lamig eh. para bang gustong-gusto natin na umiinit ang mga ulo natin araw-araw. tsk tsk