Autotechnika

[Boy Torotot]

MaDox, these are our ATF:

Texamatic ATF - P180/L (entry level)
USA 88 Dexron II - P200/L (eto yung usually ginagamit ng customers)
Castrol Mercon V Dexron III - 450/L (usually pinipili ng mga SUV owners)
Mobil Dexron III - 790/L (ginagamit ng mga high-end cars)

You can also bring your own ATF, sobrahan mo nga lang ng 4-5L para kase di titigil yung ATF dialysis machine hanggang di lumilinaw ang ATF mo.

May recommended ATF ang cars nyo (look at the manual). Check nyo na lang kung ano ang pwedeng gamitin, kase baka gumastos kayo ng malaki, eh hinde nyo naman kelangan ng Dexron III.

Sir torque, ano pong ATF recommended nyo for a GU Nissan Patrol na tulad nung kay wiretap_md? Ginamit ni wiretap_md kasi 10 liters of USA 88, while Nissan manual recommends Nissan Genuine matic Fluid J. My Patrol is on its 35,000 kms, ATF has never been replaced, so i'm planning to have the ATF replaced thru your transtech machine.
Pa-advise na lang po if i still have to buy that specific fluid recommended by Nissan(or if i can just use USA 88 Dexron II or Castrol Mercon V Dexron III), and if ever, how many liters approximately.

Edit: My bad, didn't see the quote under 'For 4-speed transmission models'. It mentions "...contact a NISSAN dealer for correct brand(s) of DEXRON III/MERCON Automatic Transmission Fluid."

So, Castrol Mercon V Dexron III is it?

[jaycrew]

sir torque how much will it cost para sa transtech ng grand vit 2003 & pajero local 2000.tnx

[MadoX]

Yup... 24L to clean all the gunk up. It's clean as a whistle now.

Yup, we have the same sentiment that several factors affect when a belt needs to be changed... What rang a bell on my mind was that I was promptly told a set answer without the car or it's history first being assessed.

wow ganun kagaling yun SA mo sa autotechnika?

but i guess 60k is a pretty close estimate however you look at it I guess roads and traffic here is crappy... don't know how long that old lady was in the car idling in and out of traffic with the A/C on.

if you want a second opinion I hear speedyfix does a good job with belt replacements.

[alwayz_yummy]

ok. meron po ba sa may fairview?dun po malapit sa min,e..mga 10 liters pwede na kaya..or compute ko for 20liters..1st time po kasi to, and kakapalit ko lang ng a/t last march,e...

[MadoX]

Hey guys,

came back from autotechnika FORT this morning. As I've said before here is my experience.

I came around 8:15 am and as usual asked the guard for a SA. The SA that came out was Percy. He immidiately took the car in the service bay and started to jack it up in 5 mins. (FYI, I scheduled this visit. So you might not get the same treatment if you went there and the service area is full) Then SA Joven came out and told the technician to use 24 liters. At this point I was kinda shocked that they would use 24 liters (more on this later). It took them 5 minutes to find the right connections where to place the TRANSTECH machine. They attched the unit to my car battery, started the engine, turned on the machine and placed my car into D and started the process of cleaning the ATF off my car.

At first glance you can really see the thick gunk (a.k.a. old ATF) come out of the car. It looked liked used motor oil. . But after about 6 liters the fluid started clearing up. And by the time it used 16 liters I think what clean ATF that was going in was going out as well, hence my system is clean. I noticed that new ATF is really liquidy in nature, not like that think stuff that initially came out so all in all I'm satisfied.

The whole process took only an hour and it seemed done correctly. Now I noticed that my car seems to change gears faster especially from 2nd to 3rd gear. I don't think I'm imagining it, I'll know for sure tomorrow, when I use my car again.

What I think about the experience of today:

1. Transtech is a brand of the machine that flushes out old ATF and brings in new ATF to your trasmission. Some people in other pages think that this is a process of changing the ATF. So remeber guys Transtech is a brand, ATF flush is the process. Just like Xerox is a brand and photocopying is the process (just to clarrify things, kasi pati ako nahilo eh )

2. You can't know how much ATF you'll need for ATF flushing, but based on my experience, I feel I kinda wasted 8 liters of ATF since they opened the whole case and I didn't stop them from doing so. At 200 a bottle I feel I wasted 1,600 php. Dont get me wrong, I don't regret it. So what should you do? well, my car is a 97' civic. Based on my estimates, you need six liters to flush old ATF, 4 liters for cleaning and 5 more liters for allowance and what's going to be left in the transmission. A total of 15 liters. I paid 5,700 for the atf flush on my car that used 24 liters.

I FEEL YOU CAN ALWAYS ADD MORE ATF TO THE TRANSTECH MACHINE IF YOU FEEL THE ATF COMING OUT IS STILL DIRTY, YOU BASICALLY OPEN A NEW BOTTLE AND ADD IT TO THE TRANSTECH MACHINE ATF RESERVIOR.

3. torque, you should consider giving the FREE 21 point to all your clients who gets repairs. It only took them around 10 minutes to check my car and I they basically just did a visual check on it.

4. don't get intimidated by the class design of autotechnika guys, the shop looks and feels great. It's really clean. only 1 bmw was there today, most of the shop had regular cars getting worked done. hehe..

[OTEP]

Bakit kaya 24 agad? Ayoko na mag-speculate. Antayin niyo na lang si torque. Muntik pa naman akong pumunta with 9L of OEM ATF. Buti pala hindi ako tumuloy. Yari pala ko kung nagkataon.

[brainmafia_310]

Hey guys,

came back from autotechnika FORT this morning. As I've said before here is my experience.

I came around 8:15 am and as usual asked the guard for a SA. The SA that came out was Percy. He immidiately took the car in the service bay and started to jack it up in 5 mins. (FYI, I scheduled this visit. So you might not get the same treatment if you went there and the service area is full) Then SA Joven came out and told the technician to use 24 liters. At this point I was kinda shocked that they would use 24 liters (more on this later). It took them 5 minutes to find the right connections where to place the TRANSTECH machine. They attched the unit to my car battery, started the engine, turned on the machine and placed my car into D and started the process of cleaning the ATF off my car.

At first glance you can really see the thick gunk (a.k.a. old ATF) come out of the car. It looked liked used motor oil. . But after about 6 liters the fluid started clearing up. And by the time it used 16 liters I think what clean ATF that was going in was going out as well, hence my system is clean. I noticed that new ATF is really liquidy in nature, not like that think stuff that initially came out so all in all I'm satisfied.

The whole process took only an hour and it seemed done correctly. Now I noticed that my car seems to change gears faster especially from 2nd to 3rd gear. I don't think I'm imagining it, I'll know for sure tomorrow, when I use my car again.

What I think about the experience of today:

1. Transtech is a brand of the machine that flushes out old ATF and brings in new ATF to your trasmission. Some people in other pages think that this is a process of changing the ATF. So remeber guys Transtech is a brand, ATF flush is the process. Just like Xerox is a brand and photocopying is the process (just to clarrify things, kasi pati ako nahilo eh )

2. You can't know how much ATF you'll need for ATF flushing, but based on my experience, I feel I kinda wasted 8 liters of ATF since they opened the whole case and I didn't stop them from doing so. At 200 a bottle I feel I wasted 1,600 php. Dont get me wrong, I don't regret it. So what should you do? well, my car is a 97' civic. Based on my estimates, you need six liters to flush old ATF, 4 liters for cleaning and 5 more liters for allowance and what's going to be left in the transmission. A total of 15 liters. I paid 5,700 for the atf flush on my car that used 24 liters.

I FEEL YOU CAN ALWAYS ADD MORE ATF TO THE TRANSTECH MACHINE IF YOU FEEL THE ATF COMING OUT IS STILL DIRTY, YOU BASICALLY OPEN A NEW BOTTLE AND ADD IT TO THE TRANSTECH MACHINE ATF RESERVIOR.

3. torque, you should consider giving the FREE 21 point to all your clients who gets repairs. It only took them around 10 minutes to check my car and I they basically just did a visual check on it.

4. don't get intimidated by the class design of autotechnika guys, the shop looks and feels great. It's really clean. only 1 bmw was there today, most of the shop had regular cars getting worked done. hehe..

WOW!!! we have the same brand of car so ibig sabihin more or less ganyan din magaggastos ko, DAMN! im planning to do the second draining of my atf next month.

Sir torque from my previous post dont get me wrong, i read all of their comments and your reply i just want to inform you that i also encounter the same problem and i'm very thankful that you reply immediately and your companys fast action. However for me, ecu is too expensive and im not familiar with electronics but i hope if some of your technical people dont know how to use them, then dont let them. I hope you understand my concern.

By the way, sir please reply to other queries above because many of us want to change our atf using your machine. sir please quote on my 1997 civic for atf replacement with USA88 dexronII compliant. thank you very much! please send your quotation to brain_310*yahoo.com. Sir please breakdown the labor and materials. Thank you very much!

[torque2006]

Sirs, don't get our service advisors/manager and mechanics wrong. These guys know how to use the machine. Our company introduced this machine in the market a few years back, and the mechanics using the machine in the workshop were trained.

It all depends on a/t's history (capacity, mileage, years of use) on how much ATF is needed for your car. Sir MaDox, I've checked your record and I've talked to the Percy and Joven. From what I get it's your first time to get a ATF flush, and that your mileage reads 100,000++.

Usually if it's the first time to have the ATF completely flushed with that mileage, it takes 30L or more. Our mechanic actually wanted to continue adding ATF because there was still discrepancy on the color. The next time you get your AT flushed, you'll only need 10-15L (assuming that we follow the 30K rule).

However, I can see the problem, it looks like we're ripping people off their hard earned cash.

Hmmm... Tell you what, I'm having a waiver made downstairs. If you feel that the ATF is clear tell the mechanic to stop and you will be made to sign a waiver. I believe my mechanics are saying the right thing (hey, they've been using the machine for years). Also, I'm going to provide a test tube or something downstairs that we can use to compare the AT coming out and in.

I'm scouring the net to find an handheld electronic ATF tester (similar to the one we have for brake fluid) which can also be used to check if your ATF is clear.

i'm running out of ideas. You guys have any other suggestions?

As for the OBDII Scanner, yes sir, duly noted.

For everyone else: As i've stated above The ATF you're going to use depends on your car's capacity and history. P900 po ang labor. I'm sorry I can't give you a decent estimate. Ayoko muna magbigay ng specific, baka mag over tayo eh. let's play with the 5k of MaDox.

[Boy Torotot]

However, I can see the problem, it looks like we're ripping people off their hard earned cash.

Sir, personally, i don't see it that way naman(ripping people off). Especially if i know all of the 24 liters will be used for my vehicle' A/T, and is really needed. Shocking lang siguro yong 24liters for others when there are posts which mentioned 10 liters for a Patrol, etc. Baka they think medyo overkill na. But then, your explanation on the mileage, ATF replacement interval is very helpful to appease our apprehensions. I myself am concerned since i'm planning on taking my Patrol there for its first full ATF replacement soon, lalo na at Dextron III recommended sa manual

Anyway, the test tube and the waiver is a good idea. And the "handheld electronic ATF tester" will be a cool touch. And i appreciate you doing all these to keep our minds at peace.

[MadoX]

Hey guys, I didn't say NOT to go there and have your ATF changed. I just said to control how much you want to use for the flushing. because YOU CAN CONTROL IT!

I'll help torque explain a bit.

torque, I will still go back to get my parents cars ATF flushed, but since I know we can control how much ATF we can put in the machine reservoir in the first place, I will just inform you mechanics how much I want .

Also, when you're in full operation, would you still allow car owners to view what the mechanics are doing to their cars? I liked the fact that I could watch what the mechanics are doing and how they are doing the repairs. Hope you still allow me to do that when you fully open.

Otep and Brainmafia, get your ATF flushed. If you want to use 10 liters, then just use 10 liters, if you see the ATF coming out is still dirty, just add more.

Labor: 900
USA88 ATF: 200/liter

so if you use 10 liters it's 2000+900=2900

bigger and/or older cars that have never flushed your atf will use more.

In my case naman I didn't have my system flushed.. EVER. and my car has a 60k milage already . so I'm very happy that I got it done.

you can't really just say you want to use 4 liters to flush your atf, you'll get it flushed but not as clean as if used 10 liters, so on and so forth. besides you can see naman the atf coming out of your system, they place it in a bucket. I used 1.5 buckets they were putting red atf and black atf was coming out in the first bucket and red atf was coming out in the second bucket. So I guess that means that my system is clean.

and for those who want a more simpler explaination. imagine if you have crap in the toilet and you want to flush it... 4 liters will not flush it down completely, it might even get stuck. but use 10 liters or even 24 and it'll flush it down good!

[MadoX]

Sir MaDox, I've checked your record and I've talked to the Percy and Joven. From what I get it's your first time to get a ATF flush, and that your mileage reads 100,000++.

torque, mali naman tingin nila Joven ng odo ko eh. my milage is 60k kilometers. Maybe you saw the records of the Pajero that was next in line to me. He had 160k milage. Shux would that mean that if they saw a 60k milage they would use less ATF in the first place? my refund ba? pa change naman yun record ko! maya magkagulo!

oh well, nagawa na eh and I'm still satisfied. my car shifts smoother now

don't quote me on that guys.

I'm off to my next project of whether to get a paint job or upgrade my speaker system hehehe

[Djerms]

Madox,
Baka mali lang ang naibigay na data nila Joven kay Torque. Baka yung data ng Pajero ang naibigay and not yours. Kung nakita mo naman na ok ang process na ginawa nila sa car mo, ok na yun. Verify mo ulit and yes change records if needed para sa next ATF change mo hindi magkagulo.

Ako nga ang specified sa manual is to change ATF every 20tkms. Huhuhu.

[torque2006]

MaDox:

Nah, actually I was the one in error. It was 60k as stated. Sorry for the overstatement.

Thank you for helping me explain ATF flushing transtech style. So we do the waiver method from now on ok? And the test tubes will be provided ASAP. Baka naman pagpunta nyo rito hanapin nyo kagad ha? LOL

Djerms:
Kawawa ka naman. Every 20k? Holly molly. Pero pag lagi ka naman nagpapa-flush mas konti yung kylangang ATF kase laging malinis ang A/T system mo.

And to everyone: Yes sirs, we allow our customers in the workshop. Pare parehas nating mahal ang mga kotse naten, at shempre ayaw naten ng kinakalikot yan ng hinde naten nakikita kung ano nang ginagawa ng mechanic.

And thank you everyone. It really does pay to listen to our customers.

[torque2006]

ay updates updates:

sinisimulan na ang reception area
ang point-of-sale system ay 70% finished
at guys, there are plans to make brochures on our eqpt (transtech for ATF, Lavramon for radiator, carbon clean for engine, etc. etc.) so you'd know what and how the machine does its job.

[Djerms]

Just a word of caution to customers, and to you na din James:

Its really good that customers are allowed inside the work area pero take extra care nalang kasi madaming heavy equipment dun na pwedeng bumagsak sa inyo or makaipit sa inyo. I think this is also one of the reasons why casa does not allow customers in their work area.

Pero so far naman, malinis at maaliwalas naman ang work area ng Autotechnika (Fort). Just take extra care nalang.

Hehe sorry medyo paranoid ako...paborito ko kasing pelikula ang FINAL DESTINATION..hehe. But seriously, ingat nalang po.

James,
Oo nga eh. I guess I'll really have to undergo the ATF change sa 20tkms ko. Mag-eenjoy ang GF ko dyan. Hindi na siya maiinip everytime na nagpapagawa ako ng sasakyan kasi katapat lang ng starbucks eh. hehe.

[wiretap_md]

Autotechnika called me up this week and they admitted that for peace of mind, they would change my ATF to Dextron III spec free of charge.since the ATF they poured in was the USA88 brand that was Dextron II. So off I went to autotechnika this morning. Was supposed to start off with the Lavramon for the Patrol but we found it hard to access the thermostat since it would entail removing the alternator and a lot more parts in the way. I deferred it and instead opted for the manual radiator flush. Next, we proceeded to changing the front and rear differential oil, transfercase ATF, as well brake bleeding. They have this neat brake bleeding machine that they attach to the brake nipples on each wheel and suck out the brake fluid while the assistant continues to pour brake fluid in the engine reservoir. Nakita ko talaga na tanggal lahat ng dumi. Finally, they then changed my tranny ATF to dextron 3 spec.

It was a long afternoon but it was worth it. Thank you autotechnika.

I guess i'll be seeing them again next week for KIDDO's turn.

[scarab]

...had my dad's benz checked (scanned) at autotechnika, si tommy nag-asikaso saken. ok naman.
...eto lang napansin ko, arrived at about 10am sabi nung guard merienda break lahat ng mekaniko (already?). ok lang, after 1 stick of cig biglang inasikaso na yung oto. just waiting for them to contact me again since may isang error pa sa oto na ayaw mawala which they will relay to their contact in germany.

[OTEP]

10 am is the standard industry break.

[n5110]

Hello Mga tsikoters,
Been reading the forums for the past weeks and learn a lot of things about cars. Thanks a lot for granting my registration. Dito ko din nalaman ang tungkol sa autotechnika and would share my expereince when I had my first atf flushing.
I called up the shop first and talk to Percy and told him na I will be bringing my own ATF fluid (13liters) he told me he is not sure whether 13 is enough for the flushing so I bought another 10li dexron 2 spec. I arrived at 11:30am but unfortunately mag lulunch break na so sabi niya palamigin muna then we'll start at 1pm. They started by installing the hose on the trannies line going to the machine,put 10li on the transtech (muna) then start with the process. Pag on pa lang ng machine nakita agad namin na nagbago yung kulay ng fluid sa glass tube naging black ito meaning this came from my tranny at dapat daw maging parehas ang coming in fluid sa going out.ayun halos identical na raw ito when we consumed 14li, hmm sabi ko hinde pala ganun kadumi ang atf ko.
For my test drive, I can feel it shifts more smoothly, hinde mo na kailangan i birit ng konti to upshift and yung jerk when you put to R nabawasan. I feel more at ease knowing na I have a clean fluid running on my tranny. Autotechnika also performed the 76point check at marami din silang nakitang worn out parts that needs replacement. Im still waiting for the quotation as Percy promised. Kudos sa autotechnika for the good service.
BTW my ride is civic vtec 99.
Ngayon I have 9li of excess atf baka meron gustong bumili.

[n5110]

Edit: sorry hinde ko po ma edit yung icon dapat ganito yun

cheers.