Ford Focus Questions

[niky]

Yeah... it's a shocker how cheap the Accent is compared to the Rio... but then, the base-model is really a no-frills taxi special.

A taxi with a diesel and lots of vroom-vroom torque, though... hehehe...

[LeOxe]

CRDi-specific parts are really, really, REALLY expensive, no matter which manufacturer you're talking about.

is it really that expensive?

carens is also powered by a crdi motor so i guess it has the same fate as the tucson with regards to spare parts.

[niky]

It'll depend on your maintenance and the fuel you use. With the newer diesel blends coming on line, it might not be a problem, but eventually, injectors will wear out. The question, though... is the cost of replacement.

Older diesels already incur maintenance costs that gasoline owners don't often have to think of... diesel calibration, injector cleaning, fuel pump rebuilding, etcetera...

A CRDi's primary weakness is the sensitivity of its high pressure pump to diesel impurities and the very fine tips of the injectors, which can be clogged if pump or filter fails. The earliest I've heard of this happening, though, is well over 100,000 kilometers... way past the sell-by date most people set for their cars.

But when it happens, it can cost a lot.

[renzo_d10]

or you can add a little more and get Mitsubishi Montero Sport 4x2 (1.3M).

Or, he can maybe get a ford everest........ford ranger wildtrak maybe?

[LeOxe]

with crdi's sensitivity that will eventually result in expensive maintenance repairs, i think going with a gasoline motor is much more practical since the quality of diesels here is not that "clean" IMO.

[actor21]

*Sir Niky i already tested the 4x2 tucson, and it's soooo slow..while the focus is way better in all deparment except for the ground clearance..

i don't like the montero 4x2 since napakamahal ng maintenance ng mitsu ( i have a very good friend who bought the new 4x4 diesel estrada..nagsisisi ngayon)

and hindi ako marunong mag drive ng manual kaya out of the question ang accent hehehe...

sana mag promo uli ang Ford Focus before kase 1.014M lang ang introductory price e

[niky]

Yeah... nagmamahal lahat ngayon... looks like our next car purchase will be limited to an i10 or a Jazz... can't really afford to be extravagant.

[actor21]

Yeah... nagmamahal lahat ngayon... looks like our next car purchase will be limited to an i10 or a Jazz... can't really afford to be extravagant.

baket kaya dito sa ating maski 3rd world country tayo panay ang taas ng mga kotse..samantalang sa ibang bansa kulang nalang i buy 1 take 1 e.

[ITMA]

... and CRDi-specific parts are really, really, REALLY expensive, no matter which manufacturer you're talking about.

Sir Niky and to all,

Sorry a bit OT, but in this case where would you go?

Gas car: More expensive fuel. Usually higher FC compared to diesel. But cheaper to maintain

Diesel car: Cheaper fuel (sometimes by P10/L). Usually better FC compared to gasoline engine. But more expensive to maintain.

Thanks much for your valuable opinions.

[niky]

If my budget were higher, within the 1m to 1.5m (or even 3m) mark, and I was willing to spend, I'd go for a diesel vehicle. Whatever you get in that price range, you're going to have to pay a lot in insurance and you will lose a lot in depreciation. Might as well get something you can enjoy. At this end of the market, diesels are powerful, fast, and much more frugal than their gasoline counterparts. Though if you can afford a 3 million peso car, I doubt you're worried about the fact that your gasoline engine only does 5-7 km/l in mixed driving (typically, 3 liter diesels will do 8-9 km/l in the same situations).

With my budget as it is, only smaller gasoline and diesel cars are within my reach. And at 500,000 to 700,000 pesos, the fuel savings aren't really going to be great enough to warrant spending extra over the base gasoline models. Poverty spec Accent versus a Honda City 1.3 that gets similar economy? Difficult choice.

[jrebong0]

Sir Niky and to all,

Sorry a bit OT, but in this case where would you go?

Gas car: More expensive fuel. Usually higher FC compared to diesel. But cheaper to maintain

Diesel car: Cheaper fuel (sometimes by P10/L). Usually better FC compared to gasoline engine. But more expensive to maintain.

Thanks much for your valuable opinions.

Dati me nakapagsabi sa akin na there was a time last year na mas mataas pa ung price ng diesel kesa sa gas. Totoo ba un? (I was abroad so I didnt know)

Although historical trends indicates that in this country diesel fuel is cheaper than gas. Kaya lang baka nmn later on magpareho din ng price. Ang alam ko kasi kung market-price paguusapan, di nmn talga dapat mas mura ang diesel fuel.

Anyway - ang ayaw ko lang sa diesel talaga e yung usok. Me mga bago2x pang isuzu, innova and kahit fortunner ako nakikita na mausok na. Kulay itim at malapot.

Kung hindi maalaga ung magdi-drive wag na lang diesel sana. Think about the planet :p

[actor21]

Think about the planet

according to Top GEar UK e mas "green" daw ang diesel..I mean mas makakatulong ka daw sa planet pag diesel engine car ang gamit mo...

hay kelan kaya ako makakabili ng Ford Focus TDCi...saka baket ang mahal ng kotse dito sa pinas samantalang halos buy 1 take 1 sa ibang bansa makabenta lang

[tidus1203]

Mga bagong diesel mas green pa kaysa gas engines... And yes there was a time I think that diesel prices were higher than gas prices although sandali lang maybe for a week or two last year during the run up in oil prices. E10 back then was already cheaper than diesel. Buti la pa akong Santa Fe nung time na yon Yung nagka Santa Fe ako nasa P37 na lang ata diesel na umabot ng P60 hehehehe

As for the smoke belching Fortuner and Innova, bulok lang talaga D-4D ng Toyota. Daming ng complaints regarding that...

[tikoy]

ano po size o battery type para sa ford focus 2007 1.8li gas?

TIA!

[jonski]

Dual clutch na din ba yung Focus sport 2.0?

[AG4]

Dual clutch na din ba yung Focus sport 2.0?

Only the TDCi Sport has the 6-speed dual-clutch Powershift.
The 2.0 Sport uses a 4-speed A/T with +,- mode.

Ford is developing a dual-clutch Powershift gearbo for future gasoline/petrol models.

The Lincoln C concept (based on the Focus) is powered by a 180hp 1.6 liter EcoBoost engine, it uses the new dual-clutch Powershift gearbox for gasoline engines.

[actor21]

Only the TDCi Sport has the 6-speed dual-clutch Powershift.
The 2.0 Sport uses a 4-speed A/T with +,- mode.

Ford is developing a dual-clutch Powershift gearbo for future gasoline/petrol models.

The Lincoln C concept (based on the Focus) is powered by a 180hp 1.6 liter EcoBoost engine, it uses the new dual-clutch Powershift gearbox for gasoline engines.

at sigurado ako 1MIL + to..baket kaya ang mahal ng mga sasakyan sa atin dito...panay pa ang price increase..naka receive ako ng pricelist from honda alabang..
tumaas ng 20k ang civic at jazz nila...k0p*l talaga tong mga taga honda..krisis na nga lalo pa nila itinaas di na tuloy makaka afford ang katulad ko na naghahangad magkaroon ng honda jazz sorry OT po e

[jrebong0]

krisis na nga lalo pa nila itinaas di na tuloy makaka afford ang katulad ko na naghahangad magkaroon ng honda jazz sorry OT po e

hehe.. honda jazz na pala ang bagong type mo Actor21.. sabagay, matipid daw un. Kaya lang masyado na ngang mahal. Lalabas na mas mahal pa sa mazda3 natin actually..

Anyway, siguro ang pagiipunan ko na lang e itong ford focus TDCI. Ito nmn talaga gusto ko dati. Go na go na ako nun e. Kaso kahit anong compute ko, di talaga ako comfortable sa monthly.

Maybe later when things are better..

Wala nmn bayad ang mangarap.

[actor21]

hehe.. honda jazz na pala ang bagong type mo Actor21.. sabagay, matipid daw un. Kaya lang masyado na ngang mahal. Lalabas na mas mahal pa sa mazda3 natin actually..

Anyway, siguro ang pagiipunan ko na lang e itong ford focus TDCI. Ito nmn talaga gusto ko dati. Go na go na ako nun e. Kaso kahit anong compute ko, di talaga ako comfortable sa monthly.

Maybe later when things are better..

Wala nmn bayad ang mangarap.

oo jazz 1.3AT ang gusto ko, kaso 200k++ ang initial cash out ko, tapos 14,700 monthly..pucha 16k monthly ng mazda 3 ko tapos 65k lang cash out e,

so ayun napurnada...oo focus tdci din isa sa mga pangarap ko pati tucson 4x2 tdci...

mamaya tataya ako sa lotto hehehe malay mo maka tikim man lang ng asenso...waaaaaaaaaaaaa

[jrebong0]

oo jazz 1.3AT ang gusto ko, kaso 200k++ ang initial cash out ko, tapos 14,700 monthly..pucha 16k monthly ng mazda 3 ko tapos 65k lang cash out e,

Yung din naging problem ko hindi lang sa city, sa madami pang ibang brand. Parang ang mahal compared sa MZ3 natin..

Pero itong TDCI na ito, parang value for money din. If you can call a million peso car value for money :p

Pede rin ung tucson. Mas mura pa..