Ford Focus Questions

[goodluckhouse]

Thank you. Actually the equivalents are roughly 12 to 15 then 9 to 11 km per liter.
I'm just using the trip computer so it's consistent. Unless nagbago ang computer, the mileage seems to have gone down.

[tip_tipid]

I think the computer reading is given as instantaneous average, which takes into account a sample of several parameter over time.

[aejhayl17]

Thank you. Actually the equivalents are roughly 12 to 15 then 9 to 11 km per liter.
I'm just using the trip computer so it's consistent. Unless nagbago ang computer, the mileage seems to have gone down.

its not consistent. imho, meron din kame sa vios 1.5.g ng FC digital computation, it averages 18-20km/l. while on the actual, we get luckily 15-16km/l. 80% highway driven.

try mu lang sir yung procedure ko.

"distance traveled" divided by "fuel refilled"

[xander1925]

Test drove a Ford Focus TDCi Hatch 5D and OMG this is one fast car.. Grabe ang torque... Fell in love with this car.. astiggg....

Also i just spoke to an owner of a just released Sedan Focus TDCi and pinakita na sa akin auto nya.. Black in color... Ang gandaaaaaaaaa.... Power seats na pala yung Sedan..

Kung may budget lang i would choose this over the EX GTA nang lancer hayyyyyyyyy

[niky]

its not consistent. imho, meron din kame sa vios 1.5.g ng FC digital computation, it averages 18-20km/l. while on the actual, we get luckily 15-16km/l. 80% highway driven.

try mu lang sir yung procedure ko.

"distance traveled" divided by "fuel refilled"

Yup. trip computers are not consistent.

Also take into account traffic. With new construction and rerouting, there are days when my driving takes a 1-2 km/l blow.

Have Ford check and clean your EGR... that sometimes helps to improve economy.

[ghosthunter]

Kung may budget lang i would choose this over the EX GTA nang lancer hayyyyyyyyy

If you would experience the expensive Ford repair costs for their vehicles, you might change your mind again.

[AG4]

Power seats na pala yung Sedan..

Yes, 6-way power seat (driver side), thats because the TDCi sedan is a Ghia model, this feature has always been standard on the local spec Focus Ghia models.

[xander1925]

If you would experience the expensive Ford repair costs for their vehicles, you might change your mind again.

Really? wow didnt know that.. kala ko pareho na rin sila nang Japs car with regards to repair cost...

This will be a thinker... planning to replace my Lancer with this one sana..

[aejhayl17]

Really? wow didnt know that.. kala ko pareho na rin sila nang Japs car with regards to repair cost...

This will be a thinker... planning to replace my Lancer with this one sana..

almost all american cars are known to have higher maintenance cost, and sucks gas big time. the focus TDCi is just one of the few which is somehow FC friendly.

[AG4]

Really? wow didnt know that.. kala ko pareho na rin sila nang Japs car with regards to repair cost...

This will be a thinker... planning to replace my Lancer with this one sana..

*xander1925,

Its not really that expensive when you compare the maintenance cost of the Focus to modern 21st century japanese cars.

Most of the (horror) stories of high maintenance cost come from the more expensive CBU from America models like the Expedition and Explorer.

It looks like a lot of non-Ford Focus owners usually assume that the maintenance cost of a locally made Focus is the same as that of the North American Expedition.

The Focus by the way is designed in Europe, but locally produced.

[xander1925]

*xander1925,

Its not really that expensive when you compare the maintenance cost of the Focus to modern 21st century japanese cars.

Most of the (horror) stories of high maintenance cost come from the more expensive CBU from America models like the Expedition and Explorer.

It looks like a lot of non-Ford Focus owners usually assume that the maintenance cost of a locally made Focus is the same as that of the North American Expedition.

The Focus by the way is designed in Europe, but locally produced.

Thank you sir AG4.

So meaning it's really not that far from a Corolla, NIssan, Lancer, Mazda with regards to Maintenance cost, parts labor?

I hope i can get numbers from Ford focus owners specially those with TDCi.. as me and my wife is really leaning on getting this..

[zerwin22]

I just had my 10000 kms maintenance with Ford. They will just tell you that its roughly 7.5K. A fully synthetic service with change oil to be precised. But I paid almost 7K....

[Jesto]

Thank you sir AG4.

So meaning it's really not that far from a Corolla, NIssan, Lancer, Mazda with regards to Maintenance cost, parts labor?

I hope i can get numbers from Ford focus owners specially those with TDCi.. as me and my wife is really leaning on getting this..

My TDCi has 34,000 km in it. Fuel consumption is still an amazing 11-12km/L in mixed highway/city driving. Record is 19km/L(these are actual figures not the on board computer)

Regular Maintenance cost is P1.2/km compared to P0.97/km for Gas Revo and P1.02/km for Diesel Innova.

If you love driving, my opinion is get the car. You will fall in love with it. the higher maintenace cost will be offset by the savings in fuel.

Good luck

[niky]

almost all american cars are known to have higher maintenance cost, and sucks gas big time. the focus TDCi is just one of the few which is somehow FC friendly.

Fuel economy, bogus. American trucks have worse economy than Japanese trucks simply because they have bigger engines. And diesel to diesel, the Everest/Ranger are on par with the Hilux/Fortuner and the Montero/Strada... none of them are quite Isuzu level... but they all make more power.

American cars with the same sized engines as Japanese cars often have similar economy. In fact, many American buyers complain that Japanese engines, which typically make more power higher up in the rev range, actually use more gas on the highway than low-revving American engines.

-

None of which applies to the "American cars" sold here in the compact market. The Ford Lynx was a Mazda Familia, the Chevrolet Optra was a Daewoo. (I know, I know... GM had officially taken over Daewoo, but the point is... Daewoo designed the car). The Lynx was a guzzler in 1.6AT form (but was more economical than the Civic 2.0AT in RS form) while the Optra was a guzzler, period.

Thank you sir AG4.

So meaning it's really not that far from a Corolla, NIssan, Lancer, Mazda with regards to Maintenance cost, parts labor?

I hope i can get numbers from Ford focus owners specially those with TDCi.. as me and my wife is really leaning on getting this..

Not as cheap as a Corolla or even the aging Sentra... similar to a Civic... similar to a Mazda (since the Focus and the Mazda3 share many components... even those that they don't share can be made to fit), probably similar to the new Lancer.

-

The only big maintenance issue with the TDCi (provided you don't blow up the turbo by driving it excessively hard and not letting it cool down properly) is the engine mounts. If you drag race a lot (do a lot of "squala" ), then the engine mounts can give (over time). Most are priced okay, but one mount is an active mount, and costs 8k pesos.

Cheaper than replacing a clutch... even the manual TDCi's clutch will survive an incredible amount of abuse... to the point where some manual gasoline cars will need a tow home due to a fried clutch.

[xander1925]

Fuel economy, bogus. American trucks have worse economy than Japanese trucks simply because they have bigger engines. And diesel to diesel, the Everest/Ranger are on par with the Hilux/Fortuner and the Montero/Strada... none of them are quite Isuzu level... but they all make more power.

American cars with the same sized engines as Japanese cars often have similar economy. In fact, many American buyers complain that Japanese engines, which typically make more power higher up in the rev range, actually use more gas on the highway than low-revving American engines.

-

None of which applies to the "American cars" sold here in the compact market. The Ford Lynx was a Mazda Familia, the Chevrolet Optra was a Daewoo. (I know, I know... GM had officially taken over Daewoo, but the point is... Daewoo designed the car). The Lynx was a guzzler in 1.6AT form (but was more economical than the Civic 2.0AT in RS form) while the Optra was a guzzler, period.



Not as cheap as a Corolla or even the aging Sentra... similar to a Civic... similar to a Mazda (since the Focus and the Mazda3 share many components... even those that they don't share can be made to fit), probably similar to the new Lancer.

-

The only big maintenance issue with the TDCi (provided you don't blow up the turbo by driving it excessively hard and not letting it cool down properly) is the engine mounts. If you drag race a lot (do a lot of "squala" ), then the engine mounts can give (over time). Most are priced okay, but one mount is an active mount, and costs 8k pesos.

Cheaper than replacing a clutch... even the manual TDCi's clutch will survive an incredible amount of abuse... to the point where some manual gasoline cars will need a tow home due to a fried clutch.

Thanks for the info sir Niky, this will probably my next car at the end of the year.. Akala ko naman kasi parang BMW or Mercedes ang maintenance nito..coz people are sounding like the price is miles away from Japanese counterparts....

[Starex_Gold]

Thanks for the info sir Niky, this will probably my next car at the end of the year.. Akala ko naman kasi parang BMW or Mercedes ang maintenance nito..coz people are sounding like the price is miles away from Japanese counterparts....

Ikaw ha

tahimik ka ngayon.. bibili ka pala ng bagong tsikot :evil:

[Quint]

I bought my focus TDCI in 2008 December. It has been running well and is quick yet gets good consumption. Initially we would get a high of 5li/100km on the highway to 9li/100km in day to day city driving.

Lately though (past 3 months starting from around 13 to 14000km) I noticed that the consumption is higher. Highway now is just 8li/100km while city driving has gone all the way up to 10.5 li/100km. The unit is maintained by ford global and have had them tune it up a few weeks back but still not much difference in consumption. We use Shell and Caltex diesel. Am not sure what oil Ford Global puts but assume it's manufacturer approved. I've recently put higher psi on the tires to see if this is the problem but initial readings from the computer are not encouraging.

Any ideas as to why consumption has gone up.

There could be a good number of factors:

1. Operating temperature
2. How heavy traffic is compared to your previous experience. In my opinion, traffic is worst these days so my consumption has gone up too.
3. Check other things i.e. alignment, tire pressure, filters, oil, etc. All these other factors affect consumption.
4. Lastly, quality of fuel. Its inconsistent. Try Petron. I get better mileage with Petron.

Hope this helps.

[xander1925]

Ikaw ha

tahimik ka ngayon.. bibili ka pala ng bagong tsikot :evil:

Ha ha ha.. hindi ako si misis.. Gusto na nya palitan yung lancer probably before end of this year or early next year hindi daw kasi nya mahiram si Sorento ha ha ha kaya ito nag titingin tingin.. gusto nya diesel na kotse.. una namin tiningnan Accent kaso di nya nagustuhan.. tapos ito na inlove sya sa Focus he he he

[jinxs666]

hi there ammmm i just bought a brand new ford focus sedan 2010 m/t and during my first week with it i noticed a sound everytime i shift its like a "thug" sound is there anyone who experienced the same?? is it really normal?? thanks again....

[mojojojo]

You asked at the wrong casa. Which one was it? The big ones in Manila usually have stock.

Hi niky,

Ford EDSA is on my way to the office so I dropped by to take a look.

As for the maintenance issue, I own a Mazda and the maintenance do costs more than even a Nissan specially around the 20k PMS (and maybe every 20k PMS thereafter). That too is my concern with the Focus TDCi since they are like, related. I do not know if the Ford casa will accept spare parts sourced externally (even orig) but Mazda is a bit hesitant accepting such parts citing instructions coming from the Ford factory daw.