Ford Everest [Merged]

[JJCarEnthusiast]

sir cludmaker, congratz on your new ride! (assuming nakuha mo na ang unit mo kahapon) sir talaga bang bouncy/matagtag ang ride ng everest? may ibang nagsasabi na matagtag yung iba naman comfortable naman daw. post pix naman at pati fuel consumption. hehe

[Drave]

sir cludmaker, congratz on your new ride! (assuming nakuha mo na ang unit mo kahapon) sir talaga bang bouncy/matagtag ang ride ng everest? may ibang nagsasabi na matagtag yung iba naman comfortable naman daw. post pix naman at pati fuel consumption. hehe

Let me answer these Qs, if it's okay with you.

If you're the driver or the front passenger, it's very comfortable. If you're in the middle (2nd row), you'll feel some bounciness but very tolerable. I can sleep in the second row. But if you're in the last row, you'll really feel the bounciness, but the bounciness is not hard like a jeepney (it's on the softer side). My kids love the third row. I don't know why. They don't throw up, in fact, they fall asleep there.

More comfortable when fully laden.

As for the FC, 8km/L city, 10km/L hwy.


Cloudmaker,

Great decision, btw

[JJCarEnthusiast]

thanks sir drave

i heard here that one can manage 15 or 13. ok din naman apala ang fc nya. sir hpw can u compare this to 08 alterra?

Let me answer these Qs, if it's okay with you.

If you're the driver or the front passenger, it's very comfortable. If you're in the middle (2nd row), you'll feel some bounciness but very tolerable. I can sleep in the second row. But if you're in the last row, you'll really feel the bounciness, but the bounciness is not hard like a jeepney (it's on the softer side). My kids love the third row. I don't know why. They don't throw up, in fact, they fall asleep there.

More comfortable when fully laden.

As for the FC, 8km/L city, 10km/L hwy.


Cloudmaker,

Great decision, btw

[JJCarEnthusiast]

btw sir, the 8-10km/l fc, sa 2.5 4x2 or 3.04x4?

[Drave]

Oh it's 3.0 4x4 A/T.

The 2.5, AFAIK, can reach 15km/L.

[JJCarEnthusiast]

ah ok po.. sa c! magazine eh 11km/l daw..

[JJCarEnthusiast]

another question:

is it true that everest is using a modified mazda engine? ford bought ,azda when it was bankrupt. ford dont have diesel technology thinking that it is an american car company. mazda has so they just modified mazda's diesel engine(added duratorque and crdi technology) then fit in to everest/ranger?

[Drave]

The 1.8 and 2.0 tdci engines are british made.

The 2.5 and 3.0 duratorqs were built in cooperation with mazda. I'm guessing they're not modified engines but built from ground up. The ranger, actually, has a mazda sibling called the BT-50.

The big diesels that are mated to the F250/350/550 and other big ford trucks are US made.

[JJCarEnthusiast]

ay ok.. sabi kasi ng dad ko eh and he's holding it against everest kasi mazda daw eh madaling masira. "MAZDAli ma sira" dawsabi nya. haha

[scharnhorst]

ay ok.. sabi kasi ng dad ko eh and he's holding it against everest kasi mazda daw eh madaling masira. "MAZDAli ma sira" dawsabi nya. haha

Nageneralize rin pala ang mazda along with nissan.

There are a considerable number of B2200's still plying the streets out there. Those are even older than this 200+k km ranger.

[niky]

It's a bull**** generalization. Mazdas aren't any worse than your common Japanese car.

It all boils down to the specific engine and chassis. Lots of long term ranger owners with the non-CRDi version of these engines who've had no problems whatsoever.

The ride of the current Everest is a strange mix of "matagtag" and "malambot", but that's from doing a review on the 2.5... I don't know about the 3.0. It's probably just down to the shock specifications. Whether it's better than the Fortuner depends on your tastes... but I can tell you this... the engine itself is much better.

[JJCarEnthusiast]

everest owners, can you really say that everest has a very comfortable ride than alterra? and that its very fuel efficient? sabi kasi ng ilan mas maganda daw alterra sa eve in terms of ride comfort and fc

[Drave]

It's a bull**** generalization. Mazdas aren't any worse than your common Japanese car.

It all boils down to the specific engine and chassis. Lots of long term ranger owners with the non-CRDi version of these engines who've had no problems whatsoever.

The ride of the current Everest is a strange mix of "matagtag" and "malambot", but that's from doing a review on the 2.5... I don't know about the 3.0. It's probably just down to the shock specifications. Whether it's better than the Fortuner depends on your tastes... but I can tell you this... the engine itself is much better.

I have a friend who rode with me today in my everest. He's the kind of guy who's not really a tsikoter by heart, if you know what I mean. Vehicles are just there to take you from point A to point B. Well, his comment exactly was, "malayong mas komportable ito kesa sa fortuner. Yung fortuner eh matagtag at nakakahilo (while gesturing a wave-like pattern with his hand)".

And true, the ford/mazda engine is much better.

everest owners, can you really say that everest has a very comfortable ride than alterra? and that its very fuel efficient? sabi kasi ng ilan mas maganda daw alterra sa eve in terms of ride comfort and fc

I don't know which ride is more comfortable coz I haven't test driven an alterra (didn't really consider buying one). The everest engine is more powerful but the alterra engine consumes less fuel.

Regarding mazda engine reputation, my dad used to have a B2200 as a service vehicle. Boy, it was very durable. He would ply bicol about once or twice a week and never had problems.

You seem to have many questions regarding the everest. Are you planning to purchase one? If you do, compare it with the rest by test-driving them (unfortunately, fortuners don't have test drive vehicles, mautak ang toyota). Other people's tastes could be different from yours.

[JJCarEnthusiast]

my dad might buy(family car) we're consediring eve and alterra..

[scharnhorst]

my dad might buy(family car) we're consediring eve and alterra..

I guess he's never heard of the legendary 4jx-1.

No complaints on the toyota 2.5 li D4D. Refined, and outruns most non-CRDi diesel vehicles... But you get smoked by other new diesel vehicle.

Just wondering, are there any cases of cracked cylinder heads on the duratorq?

[JJCarEnthusiast]

ya of course i heard it.. toyota? i also heard that fortuner has matagtag ride. i dont like. torn between eve and alterra. the 4jx1, ya im also worried about it. so maybe i can convince my father to buy eve vs aterra..

I guess he's never heard of the legendary 4jx-1.

No complaints on the toyota 2.5 li D4D. Refined, and outruns most non-CRDi diesel vehicles... But you get smoked by other new diesel vehicle.

Just wondering, are there any cases of cracked cylinder heads on the duratorq?

[niky]

Haven't heard of any, yet... but it can happen if you let the engine overheat.

Diesels aren't indestructible. I've friends who do rentals, and I've heard of overhauled engines from Toyota, Mitsubishi and Nissan... nothing is foolproof... you have to take care of it.

The one big issue right now with the Alterra engine is its ability to deal with local fuel. I'm slowly getting confirmation of the stories regarding the gaskets around the injectors. Apparently, they're sensitive to fuel quality, and can degrade. I'm trying to find an owner who can provide me with a letter from Isuzu now. This is eerily like the o-ring problem that cursed the 4JX1 trooper.

The Alterra reportedly rides much better... it's softer, out and out. And yes, despite possible issues with fuel, the Isuzu engines are really pretty fuel efficient compared to others. Most CRDi engines (like in the Eve and Fort) aren't very fuel efficient.

[JJCarEnthusiast]

sir tas ano nagyari sa mga alterra na infected by low fuel quaity? ano po sabi ng mga may ari? wala pa namang nangyaring incident na ganyan sa alterra thread. may mga alterra na 2005 pa 100k+km na wala pang major problems..

Haven't heard of any, yet... but it can happen if you let the engine overheat.

Diesels aren't indestructible. I've friends who do rentals, and I've heard of overhauled engines from Toyota, Mitsubishi and Nissan... nothing is foolproof... you have to take care of it.

The one big issue right now with the Alterra engine is its ability to deal with local fuel. I'm slowly getting confirmation of the stories regarding the gaskets around the injectors. Apparently, they're sensitive to fuel quality, and can degrade. I'm trying to find an owner who can provide me with a letter from Isuzu now. This is eerily like the o-ring problem that cursed the 4JX1 trooper.

The Alterra reportedly rides much better... it's softer, out and out. And yes, despite possible issues with fuel, the Isuzu engines are really pretty fuel efficient compared to others. Most CRDi engines (like in the Eve and Fort) aren't very fuel efficient.

[niky]

Kaya nga... I'm still gathering info. Mahirap mag-rely sa "sabi-sabi"... and it could be due to the early Euro II fuel, which lacked lubricity and also caused problems for the Toyota D4Ds.

Because it might just be a garbled story regarding the Isuzu Trooper, whose famous O-ring problems Isuzu is actively trying to rectify.

[pup2]

Kaya nga... I'm still gathering info. Mahirap mag-rely sa "sabi-sabi"... and it could be due to the early Euro II fuel, which lacked lubricity and also caused problems for the Toyota D4Ds.

Because it might just be a garbled story regarding the Isuzu Trooper, whose famous O-ring problems Isuzu is actively trying to rectify.

Kung magka-totoo yan, Niky tama nga tayo na Euro diesels ang panalo sa CRDi wars. Mabuhay ang Stavic namin! hahaha. Joke.