Comments on Ford Escape!??

[Harrier]

Kabibili ko lang 2 weeks na NBX White 4x2. Trade ko yung Carrier ng Side step.
Car Comments:
1. 7 years na ang Escape kaya all design issues solved na yan. Maliban sa Parts and Assembly issues.
2. Maganda ride compare to Fortuner, Malakas ang hatak, 10km/liter, Ok steering, maluwang. Actually lahat ng quality claims sa Escape i summarized it then pinakiramdaman ko so far wala pa naman.
3. Yung Handbreak mali ang position pang Right Hand Driving. Mahirap abutin walang force.
4. Walang auto lock if reached already certain speed.
5. Power window walang auto switch continuous down or up.
6. Maganda trim compare sa Xtrail and Fortuner.
7. Wala mudguard sa front kaya maputik lower front doors. Accessory for Php 2310.

Over all maganda , OK idrive.

[tusok]

My friend from ford told me na they will be launching the new ford Escape by October 08. Any feedback?

[mazda1/4mile]

hi...which is a better buy an everest, a ranger or an escape???
tnx

[niky]

Personally, I like the Ranger best, but that's just me.

[Gerbo]

My friend from ford told me na they will be launching the new ford Escape by October 08. Any feedback?

Is there any chance the next gen Ford Escape will have a diesel option? Puede ba nila ilagay yon TDCI engine currently being used in the Ford Focus?

[niky]

Not with the same engine. The Ford Escape is based on the old Mazda 626 platform and shares platforms with the Mazda Tribute and the first-generation Mazda6. The Focus is an entirely different platform.

With the next generation Escape, we're likely getting the US facelift... which means no diesel... yet.

[kayOu]

got my White NBX last June. so far, i'm loving it. ok yung audio - unless gusto mo mambulabog ng kapit-bahay, you don't have to add anything else. I just had an HID bulb installed and tomorrow side step naman. naghahanap sana ako ng spoiler pero wala eh. medyo kulang nga sa accessories - isa sa down sides. (or di lang ako marunong maghanap? hehe)

Is there any chance the next gen Ford Escape will have a diesel option? Puede ba nila ilagay yon TDCI engine currently being used in the Ford Focus?

the latest Escape in the US (2009 model) doesn't have a diesel option (sa pagkakaalam ko). 2.5L (170+hp - i'll be waiting for this... baka next year ilabas dito ), 3.0 (or something) and the hybrid.

[kayOu]

got my White NBX last June. so far, i'm loving it. ok yung audio - unless gusto mo mambulabog ng kapit-bahay, you don't have to add anything else. I just had an HID bulb installed and tomorrow side step naman. naghahanap sana ako ng spoiler pero wala eh. medyo kulang nga sa accessories - isa sa down sides. (or di lang ako marunong maghanap? hehe)

Is there any chance the next gen Ford Escape will have a diesel option? Puede ba nila ilagay yon TDCI engine currently being used in the Ford Focus?

the latest Escape in the US (2009 model) doesn't have a diesel option (sa pagkakaalam ko). 2.5L (170+hp - i'll be waiting for this... baka next year ilabas dito ), 3.0 (or something) and the hybrid.

[Gerbo]

Not with the same engine. The Ford Escape is based on the old Mazda 626 platform and shares platforms with the Mazda Tribute and the first-generation Mazda6. The Focus is an entirely different platform.

With the next generation Escape, we're likely getting the US facelift... which means no diesel... yet.

So its nowhere near imminent.... I really like the Escape but like other Ford models of yore it suffers from the reputation of Ford engines--guzzlers. This inefficiency hurt sales in the long run. The Mitsubishi Fuzion is virtually in the same spot.

Why can't Ford or its sibling Mazda develop a 130-140 hp 2.0 L displacement CRDI engine? If not the frugal 1.8-2.0 VVTI-like engine similar to Toyotas. Or outsourced such engines from other car manufacturers. Puede naman ata gawin ito for the ASEAN, Australian and Pacific rim market.

Nagawa na nila sa sedan (i.e. Focus). I was hoping the Escape would be next.

[niky]

So its nowhere near imminent.... I really like the Escape but like other Ford models of yore it suffers from the reputation of Ford engines--guzzlers. This inefficiency hurt sales in the long run. The Mitsubishi Fuzion is virtually in the same spot.

Why can't Ford or its sibling Mazda develop a 130-140 hp 2.0 L displacement CRDI engine? If not the frugal 1.8-2.0 VVTI-like engine similar to Toyotas. Or outsourced such engines from other car manufacturers. Puede naman ata gawin ito for the ASEAN, Australian and Pacific rim market.

Nagawa na nila sa sedan (i.e. Focus). I was hoping the Escape would be next.

The Focus TDCi engine really isn't a "TDCi"... it's borrowed from Peugeot, I think.

Mazda has always had diesels available for their motorcars. The 323/Lynx came with an available diesel engine, but it was never sold here... the turbodiesel was the old type... smelly, slow, etcetera. There are diesels available for Mazdas and Fords elsewhere (like in Europe), but since the Tribute/Escape platform is more of an American-market product, well, that's all we'll get.

One hopes that Ford will find a way to drop a diesel in the Escape. Or, failing that, dump the line entirely and bring in an Asian/European model that has diesel available. Really, if Ford wants to keep its "premium" status, bring in the damn Mondeo TDCi. A 2.0 TDCi midsizer that looks and drives better than the Camry.

We can only wish...

[marv25]

is a brand new escape 2008 xls 4x2 for 1M a good deal? its a fit package without insurance and LTO yet since the company shoulders them.

but we were strongly considering something else like the civic or crv because we know, two people who have escapes (2004 model), both of them, after a year daw, their gauges, lights and everything suddenly stopped working and it cost them more than 50,000 to fix it. one of them is from manila and the other is here from cebu. they had exactly the same problem. and they also said since the engine is 2.0L, medyo underpowered the body is too heavy for the engine so they end up with a low FC. The new escape offers a 2.3 and they removed the 2.0 and the 3.0V6.

[Gerbo]

Thanks a lot niky for your replies. Your very knowledgeable in motor cars.
You're one of those in the forum whose opinions I find interesting, informative and valuable. Keep it up!

Back to the board......so its still wishful thinking then...hope Ford Philippines can address this problem in the future and consider such options.

[niky]

is a brand new escape 2008 xls 4x2 for 1M a good deal? its a fit package without insurance and LTO yet since the company shoulders them.

but we were strongly considering something else like the civic or crv because we know, two people who have escapes (2004 model), both of them, after a year daw, their gauges, lights and everything suddenly stopped working and it cost them more than 50,000 to fix it. one of them is from manila and the other is here from cebu. they had exactly the same problem. and they also said since the engine is 2.0L, medyo underpowered the body is too heavy for the engine so they end up with a low FC. The new escape offers a 2.3 and they removed the 2.0 and the 3.0V6.

Well... it happens. But if it happened within a year, that should be covered by warranty. Did they tell you what the problem was, exactly? If it's 50,000 pesos... that's an ECU replacement, and they got burned by their service advisor for denial of warranty (know a guy it happened to... didn't cost him a cent).

[Zeus]

is a brand new escape 2008 xls 4x2 for 1M a good deal? its a fit package without insurance and LTO yet since the company shoulders them.

but we were strongly considering something else like the civic or crv because we know, two people who have escapes (2004 model), both of them, after a year daw, their gauges, lights and everything suddenly stopped working and it cost them more than 50,000 to fix it. one of them is from manila and the other is here from cebu. they had exactly the same problem. and they also said since the engine is 2.0L, medyo underpowered the body is too heavy for the engine so they end up with a low FC. The new escape offers a 2.3 and they removed the 2.0 and the 3.0V6.

May 2 year warranty dapat yan, pwera kung dumaan sa baha, baka insurance pwede naman sumagot sa gastusin dyan sa akin 2006 V6, so far maganda naman performance, matakaw lang talaga sa gas

[niky]

May 2 year warranty dapat yan, pwera kung dumaan sa baha, baka insurance pwede naman sumagot sa gastusin dyan sa akin 2006 V6, so far maganda naman performance, matakaw lang talaga sa gas

Not a jibe against Escape owners (I have lots of Escape buddies in the Ford club), but I've seen the most ridiculous claims for damage or warranty out of Escape owners...

"Bakit butas yung block? Dumaan lang ako sa baha at namatay ang makina!"

:hysterical:

Actually, two or three of those claims, already... weird. Some people just don't understand the term "maximum fording height".

[marv25]

my bad. after 2 years pala. but its exactly the same problem. nakakapagtaka. is there any difference with the 2004 model and today's model?

[niky]

Slightly different engine management system, electronic throttle (which, combined, should save gas), bigger engine, suspension revisions, interior and exterior facelift.

I would still like to know the details of those two cases. I have some clubmates who still have the old Escape, and it would be interesting to know what happened.

Such failures are extremely rare, but not unknown. Sometimes a short in the wiring harness can kill the ECU (doesn't only happen in Fords), but in all such cases, no matter what, the dealership usually fixes it for free. It happened to one RS owner. Fixed under warranty. Sold it to another guy... four years later, the car is still okay.

[marv25]

Slightly different engine management system, electronic throttle (which, combined, should save gas), bigger engine, suspension revisions, interior and exterior facelift.

I would still like to know the details of those two cases. I have some clubmates who still have the old Escape, and it would be interesting to know what happened.

Such failures are extremely rare, but not unknown. Sometimes a short in the wiring harness can kill the ECU (doesn't only happen in Fords), but in all such cases, no matter what, the dealership usually fixes it for free. It happened to one RS owner. Fixed under warranty. Sold it to another guy... four years later, the car is still okay.

Well, one is in manila. Its a 2.0L Escape XLS. It just suddenly that all the gauges and indicators stopped working. It cost 40,000+ almost P50,000 to have it repaired. It was out of warranty already and the owner immediately sold it right after having it fixed to avoid future problems.

Another is here in cebu. About the same aged 2.0L Escape XLS also. Exactly the same thing, except that he still has the car until now but he doesnt use it much because of high fuel prices. The mileages of the cars in cebu are a lot lower than those in manila by the way.

Anyway if noone else seems to have this problem, maybe they're just very unlucky and if we get an escape, we will most likely not have that problem.

[niky]

Well... the Escape is pretty nice for the price (since it's currently down-priced to just about 1m), but it's nowhere near as economical as a Tucson/Sportage CRDi or a CR-V 2.0. Still, it does have its merits. Comfortable ride, good space, good handling... but it's getting pretty old, and should be up for replacement soon. (Hopefully.)

Good luck on your car buying decision!

[dingch]

i have a 2004 XLS 2.0 Escape. 46,000K mileage

Well satisfied with this one. The ride, handling, interior, cargo bay, overall appeal of its "look". Its been 4 years now, i havent had any experience of defects at all. Never brought it to casa for repairs only for tuneups.

The ONLY downsides in my 4 years is fuel economy 6-7km/l lang. You'll feel the underpower in start-stops, but in NLEX you'll easily hit 130kp/h or so.

BUT, to me its such a nice experience to drive one that im seriously planning to get a backup subcompact car to save gas money rather than sell it.

Two words describe my Escape ('04) experience: FEEL GOOD...