Remote bypass oil filtration

**MrQ5** · March 4th, 2012 11:50 PM

Up ko lang din tanong ko kay Doc,
Re: Caltex delo 400 15W-40 isosyn CI-4+, how would rate this oil? TIA

**dvldoc** · March 5th, 2012 12:55 AM

I posted on it back several pages ago, But it's one of the better oils out there, It's only Group II but it has a high TBN, and Zinc around 1500ppm (very high) so it gives excellent protection. This oil is for Fleet service so it will run 12000klm to 15000kml without to much problems with a good filter.

**miko101130** · March 5th, 2012 07:43 AM

Originally Posted by crazy_boy

RT,
Regarding Zic A 10w40 oil, after using it for 50km, im contented with it. car is running really smooth.

Good to hear that sir, bro update mo ako sa performance nang Zic A with your ride and kung gaganda mileage, thanks

**G01** · March 5th, 2012 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by 12vdc

P800, parang motul na yan ah..

I suggest sir kung magawi ka sa Cash and Carry P440 lang ang Mobil1 TDT..

Saan po location ng Cash and Carry, sir? I seldom go down Manila and if I do usually balikan ang lakad ko.

Originally Posted by dvldoc

The mobil 1 performed poorly in that test due to it's API SM API rating

Vavoline Blue has a TBN of 13.5 it's for commercial truck use, it's fleet oil designed for extended oil changes.
Phosphorus 1197ppm
Zinc 1395ppm
Molybdenum 88ppm
Boron 142ppm
Sodium 2ppm
Calcium 3076ppm
Magnesium 10ppm

Strong Anti-friction and cleaning package.

Compare with Delvac 1 which is OK oil, the Calcium level is way way to low to use one diesels in the Philippines, Fine for gas engine but your going to get a sludge monster using 1/4 the calcium as normal diesel oils.

TBN is only 10

Wow! Mobil 1 Delvac's Calcium level is way below the Universal Average of 2365.

Got this data from the Internet (I forgot which site). This data may be for the Valvoline Premium Blue 5w/40 which is a few pesos cheaper than the Mobil 1 Delvac 5w/40 available at Ace hardware SM Baguio:

Valvoline Premium Blue TBN 11.6
Calcium 3964
Magnesium 14
Phosphorous 1468
Zinc 1541
Boron 148
Molybdenum 112

I will definitely switch to Valvoline on my next oil change. Thanks for the reply, Doc

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**dvldoc** · March 5th, 2012 09:59 AM

I got that from a Virgin oil sample from Blackstone. The results will vary a bit depending on what lab does the test.

It's this one here. might be different than the one they sell there.
[IMG]http://hard****ing.com_www.maxlifeoil.com/admin/p10.png[/IMG]

But it looks like the formulation has changed since last year, They have two different specs one from last year and one for this year. This is due to the API rating. And as you can see the CI-4 is superior it's TBN is 12 while the newer CJ-4 is only 10. Damm EPA!!!

http://www.valvoline.com/pdf/premium_blue.pdf (CJ-4) (The phosphorus will be limited to no greater than 1200ppm)
http://www.valvoline.com/pdf/premium_blue_classic.pdf (CI-4) (no phosphorus limit)

Fortunately you guys can't get get good stuff all day long.

I would not use the Delvac 1, on a JDM diesel , It simply cannot keep your engine as clean.

**Ry_Tower** · March 5th, 2012 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by miko101130

paleeno has stocks of Donaldson filters for my everest, but unfortunately they don't have cross for my pajero gdi.
i guess i have no option but to buy from volmax for the cross of the pajero. i emailed baldwin yesterday, they responded through my email

Don Cross
International Sales Manager
Baldwin Filters
Southeast Asia
Phone: 61409789149
Fax: 61754630366
Email: dcross*baldwinfilter.com
Web: Baldwin Filters | Home <http://www.baldwinfilter.com>

Thank you for your interest in Baldwin Filters. Im Fernando Pardo of Volmax Marketing. Kindly send me your filter inquiry & I will give you a feedback as soon as possible.

Have a great weekend ahead.

Regards,
Fernando Pardo
Volmax Marketing

So Volmax is Baldwins recognized retailer partner here in the Philippines.

im just wandering,why the international companies and fleet filters doesn't do background checks on the companies and retailers they get for their product distribution, if they regularly check their store partners i think those stores wouldn't try to sell fakes.

Companies like donaldson,baldwin and fleetguard should be more proactive in protecting their products.
it always end up to "buyers beware"

Hi sir miko, do you have the email add of Fernando Pardo of Volmax? I have a list of oil filters I want to buy from them sana in bulk.

**Ry_Tower** · March 5th, 2012 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by dvldoc

I got that from a Virgin oil sample from Blackstone. The results will vary a bit depending on what lab does the test.

It's this one here. might be different than the one they sell there.
[IMG]http://hard****ing.com_www.maxlifeoil.com/admin/p10.png[/IMG]

But it looks like the formulation has changed since last year, They have two different specs one from last year and one for this year. This is due to the API rating. And as you can see the CI-4 is superior it's TBN is 12 while the newer CJ-4 is only 10. Damm EPA!!!

http://www.valvoline.com/pdf/premium_blue.pdf (CJ-4) (The phosphorus will be limited to no greater than 1200ppm)
http://www.valvoline.com/pdf/premium_blue_classic.pdf (CI-4) (no phosphorus limit)

Fortunately you guys can't get get good stuff all day long.

I would not use the Delvac 1, on a JDM diesel , It simply cannot keep your engine as clean.

Philippine website of valvoline have different msds from what you have posted dvldoc. I guess they have a different formulation for asian countries.

http://www.valvolineasia.com/Upload/...2000_15W40.pdf
http://www.valvolineasia.com/Upload/...Blue_15W40.pdf

**miko101130** · March 5th, 2012 11:13 AM

hndi ko na maalala sir ry_tower... check ko mamaya email inbox ko para mabigay ko sayo.. haha... by the way umorder ako 5 box nang mobil delvac 15w40 if anyone is interested.... nakaka hilo na... puro engine oils nasa utak koh...

**G01** · March 5th, 2012 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by dvldoc

I got that from a Virgin oil sample from Blackstone. The results will vary a bit depending on what lab does the test.

It's this one here. might be different than the one they sell there.
[IMG]http://hard****ing.com_www.maxlifeoil.com/admin/p10.png[/IMG]

But it looks like the formulation has changed since last year, They have two different specs one from last year and one for this year. This is due to the API rating. And as you can see the CI-4 is superior it's TBN is 12 while the newer CJ-4 is only 10. Damm EPA!!!

http://www.valvoline.com/pdf/premium_blue.pdf (CJ-4) (The phosphorus will be limited to no greater than 1200ppm)
http://www.valvoline.com/pdf/premium_blue_classic.pdf (CI-4) (no phosphorus limit)

Fortunately you guys can't get get good stuff all day long.

I would not use the Delvac 1, on a JDM diesel , It simply cannot keep your engine as clean.

I think the ones being sold here are still CI-4 rated. Noted that Mobil 1 Delvac is not suited for our Japanese engines. It has always been my thought that since it is an expensive oil and that it is manufactured by one of the leading diesel engine oil makers then it should outperform and exceed manufacturer's engine requirements. I've been using Mobil 1 Delvac for 3 years now. Maybe that's why I observed that in just a matter of days after changing oil when I check the dipstick the oil is already black.

Hoping I can get hold of the Fleetguard or Baldwin filter before I do my oil change. If not then I will still use the OEM filter and will open up the old one to see how the OEM filter performed.

**miked** · March 5th, 2012 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by miko101130

dapat kasi magtinda Volmax at pacer sa banawe..hahaha.

isali naman ang mga probinsya sana......wag lang banawe. hikbi!

sino ba kasi pwede magpadala ng sakin?hehe

kinausap ko yung parts center ng heavy machinery dito malapit sa amin kaso di nya masabi kung magkano bigay sakin yung BD28. first time daw na may nagtanong ng fleet filter for automotive application....hehehe. kulang pa talaga sa info drive ang karamihan.