Remote bypass oil filtration

[tuazon7]

*tuazon7
I think you have the wrong part OEM part number these are the ones for Mitshubishi

MITSUBISHI MB220900
MITSUBISHI 34462-01041
MITSUBISHI MB248213
MITSUBISHI 34462-21040




It should be the BF7534 and even the Fleetguard site verifies it's for the 4D56, 4M40

Descriptions: Fuel/Water Separator Spin-on with Threaded Port
Notes: Inside-Out Flow Direction
Contains: Port Thread: M36 x 1.5
Fits: Chevrolet, Dodge, GMC, Isuzu, Mitsubishi Automotive, Light-Duty Trucks; Toro Lawn & Garden Tractors
Replaces: GMC 13240032; Isuzu 8-94483-850-0; Mitsubishi MB228988; Toro 60-5470
Thread: M20 x 1.5
O.D.: 3 9/16 (90.5)
Length: 5 7/16 (138.1)
F. Gskt.: [2] Included

The BF7535 is for Toyota's and Nissans with a 3/4 16 thread.


The JS filter site does say BF7534 as well, for the 4d56, 4m40 ect.

It also fits Isuzu 4JB1-t, 4JG2-T Engines in the Bighorn, and all 2.5 liter non common rail Starexes vans, Kia Pregio vans with the 2.5 and 2.7 engines. 02-05 kia Carens with 2.0 liter engine and all Kia Carnival/Sedona vans, and Kia Besta vans.

The 4M41 uses a BF7842.

Doc, thanks for the inputs. Really know that all are using the BF7534 and it is the one that Volmax insist for the 4D56. But had my old PMS ivoice checked and had asked Citimotors as well and they provided the same OEM P/N. Checked the actual and it is a Denso 186100-6080 but no luck on getting information on this on the net. Maybe you have something on this. TIA.

[dvldoc]

The part number for the Denso matches these, which are 3/4 16 thread and not for the 4D56 or 4M40, Don't always go off of what parts guys right down check for yourself. Knowing this I wonder if they actually changed the filter and just charged you. Because that is clearly not the filter for a 4D56 or 4M40.

MANN_+_HUMMEL
WK828
NPS
M133I102
M133I99
T133A15
T133A53
BOSCH
0 986 450 500
0986450500
1 457 434 438
DELPHI
7176-521
FORD
4024213
AFG35
XM349150AA
XM3J9150AA
YL5Z9155AB
MAZDA
R2N-13ZA5
R2N513ZA5
R2N5-13ZA5
TOYOTA
0423476010
23301-64020
2330356040
2330364010
23303-64010
2330364020
23303-64020
2330364021
23303-64021
23303-76002
23303-76002-71
23303-76002-71M
23390-24480
2339030150
23390-64480
VW
J2330364010
J2330364020
DAIHATSU
18610-05420
23303-64100
23303-83706
JAPANPARTS
JFC215
JFC-215
JFC-215S
JFC-240
JFC-240S
JFC-317
JFC-317S
KOMATSU
673-471-6120
DENSO
1861006080
YANMAR
11977355510
UFI
24.374.00
24.375.00
24.411.00
2437400
2441100
PUROLATOR
F57583
F63180
PFC3180
FILTRON
PP855
FRAM
P4922
ALCO FILTER
SP969
MANN-FILTER
WK 828
CHAMPION
L145/606
L149
L149/606
WIX FILTERS
33138
MAHLE FILTER
KC135
KC67
KC83
SOFIMA
S0410NR
S1410NR
S4411NR
SCT Germany
ST306
DONALDSON
P550385
P55-0385
UNICO
FI8140
FLEETGUARD I use this on my Elgrand so I know it's wrong for the 4D56 or 4M40.
FF5159
KOLBENSCHMIDT
826FS
HERTH_&_BUSS_JAKOPARTS
J1332015
J1332060
HENGST
H17WK07

[tuazon7]

The part number for the Denso matches these, which are 3/4 16 thread and not for the 4D56 or 4M40, Don't always go off of what parts guys right down check for yourself. Knowing this I wonder if they actually changed the filter and just charged you. Because that is clearly not the filter for a 4D56 or 4M40.

MANN_+_HUMMEL
WK828
NPS
M133I102
M133I99
T133A15
T133A53
BOSCH
0 986 450 500
0986450500
1 457 434 438
DELPHI
7176-521
FORD
4024213
AFG35
XM349150AA
XM3J9150AA
YL5Z9155AB
MAZDA
R2N-13ZA5
R2N513ZA5
R2N5-13ZA5
TOYOTA
0423476010
23301-64020
2330356040
2330364010
23303-64010
2330364020
23303-64020
2330364021
23303-64021
23303-76002
23303-76002-71
23303-76002-71M
23390-24480
2339030150
23390-64480
VW
J2330364010
J2330364020
DAIHATSU
18610-05420
23303-64100
23303-83706
JAPANPARTS
JFC215
JFC-215
JFC-215S
JFC-240
JFC-240S
JFC-317
JFC-317S
KOMATSU
673-471-6120
DENSO
1861006080
YANMAR
11977355510
UFI
24.374.00
24.375.00
24.411.00
2437400
2441100
PUROLATOR
F57583
F63180
PFC3180
FILTRON
PP855
FRAM
P4922
ALCO FILTER
SP969
MANN-FILTER
WK 828
CHAMPION
L145/606
L149
L149/606
WIX FILTERS
33138
MAHLE FILTER
KC135
KC67
KC83
SOFIMA
S0410NR
S1410NR
S4411NR
SCT Germany
ST306
DONALDSON
P550385
P55-0385
UNICO
FI8140
FLEETGUARD I use this on my Elgrand so I know it's wrong for the 4D56 or 4M40.
FF5159
KOLBENSCHMIDT
826FS
HERTH_&_BUSS_JAKOPARTS
J1332015
J1332060
HENGST
H17WK07

Doc, had checked the one installed on my rig, it is indeed a Denso 186100-6080. Confused now really doc...

[dvldoc]

I think this is pretty clear now Someone has replace the filter head with a non Mitsubishi unit. They basically look exactly the same but have a different thread. So they just matched the filter that was on the vehicle when they changed it. They both are the same flow pattern so it should really make no difference using the different filter head.

[dvldoc]

For you 1kzte guys your Baldwin Oil filter is the BD7029 which is also a Bypass filter/ Dual Flow.

[miked]

as promised, here is the bosch oil filter 986 af1 036:
bypass is circular compared to vic which is hexagonal iirc



no gasket crimps


bypass section held by "that wire"????what's that?

[dvldoc]

Looks like it held up pretty good, Oil look about the same as OEM but not by much. The spring is definitely much weaker looking than the OEM filter.

Look forward to see the BD28 comparison.

[miko101130]

are there any available PUREONE filters here in the Philippines, i was reading at bob is the oil guy forums and seems its their pick

[Ry_Tower]

are there any available PUREONE filters here in the Philippines, i was reading at bob is the oil guy forums and seems its their pick

Ace has it but some of them are fakes. It is in this thread also. Better get Bosch, fleetguard or baldwin instead.

[Ry_Tower]

the BF7534 fits both 4d56 and 4m41.....I just had mine installed this afternoon and a friends strada's 4d56 2 weeks ago...

Even 4m40 can use this fuel filter.

[crazy_boy]

Looks like it held up pretty good, Oil look about the same as OEM but not by much. The spring is definitely much weaker looking than the OEM filter.

Look forward to see the BD28 comparison.

Bosch oil filters are cheaper than Vic. so if they can match the quality of OEM, and priced lower than Vic, then i think this will be the more economical option.

[locoroco777]

The 4M41 uses a BF7842.

hi doc!

the BF7534 is a good fit to the 4m41 according to KCboy

and I can attest to that...




My question now is that do fuel filters differ from oil filters when it comes to fitment?

meaning, as long as it bites the thread well, were good to go? or it does not apply the same principle?

so even though if it fits well as long as its not the same as the one in the cross reference sheet indicating that it does not have the same bite as the OEM, its not good and leaks are imminent?

because I already traveled about 400kms with it and so far I didn't experience anything unnecessary....and its all good...

I just wanted to have your approval on this... thanks doc!

[locoroco777]

Finally I was able to do a test regarding the So called "fake fleetguard"

sorry Dvldoc but I was just too curious that's why I wasn't able to follow your tips so I used the filter that I was able to source out from the said official distributor of fleet guard(the one in the pics Ive sent to you) regardless of what you said on making it a paper weight....haha!

so with that I have to see it for myself and volunteer my truck to be the guinea pig....its just a good thing that it didn't broke down...hehehe

So here it is...

I've used the oil filter that was given to me for free by a sales engineer of this company that sells fleetguard 10,000kms ago

here's the pic of the element.

as expected it has a dual filtration media if I can call it that way.




here's a closer look








Im not sure if how would I judge the filters media....

So please do tell me if I just got lucky that my truck didn't broke down...haha!

[locoroco777]

here's the pic of the inside







another angle

[locoroco777]

and just in case your wondering what I've put in after the guinea pig test....

I didn't take chances anymore and went for the best....:bwahaha:



I just had a minor glitch on it...because the mechanic was a bit hesitant on pressing on it a bit to reach the thread....but with a little force voila! a perfect fit....



and with this flowing on it....




and with that, the RIG is kicking like a young stallion again...=)

[dvldoc]

All I can say is holly god, look how bad that fake filter is made, Look at the over running glue everywhere. The second half of the filter has some super cheap media that looks like thick cardboard and shows it hardly caught anything compared to the closer spaced media. Also see how the glue is oozing out, that can easily make it's way into your engine. Or worse yet the media blow completly out and not be filtering at all. Either way Pacer should pay attention to this filter as it's clearly not a real Fleetguard and could cause damage to someone's engine. (I'm sure they still follow the thread)

A real Fleetguard would have also been stack disk not just a second filter element like OEM, it should look like the Donaldson equivalent.




Good thing you got that off the vehicle it looks like the glue was breaking down and starting to run out of the filter. This is a prime reason you never run a knock off, you never know what the quality is and the quality of that one is piss poor. Your better off with a VIC than a China clone of any filter.


As far as the fuel filter goes, JS filter shows a different cross reference for the 4m41 but then again they could have a error in there database. Kinda hard to cross it stateside because that engine does not exist here.

But when I search the OEM fuel filter number is ME132525 which equals BF7842. maybe it's only for a certain production year. But if that fits then use it. I am not always right but I do my best to research part numbers as hard as possible. But looks like the older 4m41's use the same filter as the 4d56 and 4m40.

[dvldoc]

Here are a few other issues with that LF3830 it's not supposed to b a combo/bypass filter it's a full flow which means a single element. The cross for a BD28 for Fleetguard is LF3564 which is a combo filter. So not only did the China fake make a piss poor filter they got the filter element wrong as well.

[locoroco777]

Weeeew! I think I got it out just in the nick of time

i was also wondering what are those bronzy things pooping out of the media....Little I had know that its the glue that bonds it....


thanks for all the info doc, well appreciated!

[zix888]

Weeeew! I think I got it out just in the nick of time

i was also wondering what are those bronzy things pooping out of the media....Little I had know that its the glue that bonds it....


thanks for all the info doc, well appreciated!

Sir how much per liter ng truck diesel turbo? Where? Thanks

[crazy_boy]

^ Easier and faster to use imaging host than uploading to forum. Just upload then copy image link then paste toimage URL(uncheck the retrieve remote file and reference locally). :thumbup:

BTT.. I have a Stanley strap 1/2 drive and a 24pc cup wrenches 1/4 drive, its more convenient for me to use steel belted straps as it has no attachments. If you wanto preserve the can, dont use chain or plier. Even with a grippy bare hands filter should come out - given that the previous person who installed the filter followed the recommended torque (hand-tightened)

been looking for strap wrench everywhere. pati sa Ace, True Value wala. ended up ordering abroad nalang hehe

this is what i got. 2 pcs. rubber strap wrench