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    Looks like it held up pretty good, Oil look about the same as OEM but not by much. The spring is definitely much weaker looking than the OEM filter.

    Look forward to see the BD28 comparison.

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    are there any available PUREONE filters here in the Philippines, i was reading at bob is the oil guy forums and seems its their pick

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    Quote Originally Posted by miko101130 View Post
    are there any available PUREONE filters here in the Philippines, i was reading at bob is the oil guy forums and seems its their pick
    Ace has it but some of them are fakes. It is in this thread also. Better get Bosch, fleetguard or baldwin instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dvldoc View Post
    Looks like it held up pretty good, Oil look about the same as OEM but not by much. The spring is definitely much weaker looking than the OEM filter.

    Look forward to see the BD28 comparison.
    Bosch oil filters are cheaper than Vic. so if they can match the quality of OEM, and priced lower than Vic, then i think this will be the more economical option.

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    Finally I was able to do a test regarding the So called "fake fleetguard"

    sorry Dvldoc but I was just too curious that's why I wasn't able to follow your tips so I used the filter that I was able to source out from the said official distributor of fleet guard(the one in the pics Ive sent to you) regardless of what you said on making it a paper weight....haha!

    so with that I have to see it for myself and volunteer my truck to be the guinea pig....its just a good thing that it didn't broke down...hehehe

    So here it is...

    I've used the oil filter that was given to me for free by a sales engineer of this company that sells fleetguard 10,000kms ago

    here's the pic of the element.

    as expected it has a dual filtration media if I can call it that way.




    here's a closer look








    Im not sure if how would I judge the filters media....

    So please do tell me if I just got lucky that my truck didn't broke down...haha!

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    here's the pic of the inside







    another angle


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    and just in case your wondering what I've put in after the guinea pig test....

    I didn't take chances anymore and went for the best....:bwahaha:



    I just had a minor glitch on it...because the mechanic was a bit hesitant on pressing on it a bit to reach the thread....but with a little force voila! a perfect fit....



    and with this flowing on it....




    and with that, the RIG is kicking like a young stallion again...=)

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    Quote Originally Posted by locoroco777 View Post
    and just in case your wondering what I've put in after the guinea pig test....

    I didn't take chances anymore and went for the best....:bwahaha:



    I just had a minor glitch on it...because the mechanic was a bit hesitant on pressing on it a bit to reach the thread....but with a little force voila! a perfect fit....



    and with this flowing on it....




    and with that, the RIG is kicking like a young stallion again...=)
    sir,

    parehong pareho na strada natin, from the oil, oil filter all the way to the fuel filter.heheheheh

    thanks to you and dvldoc for this thread and i wad able to decide on switching to baldwin filters, lower price but better quality.

    im luck i just live 1 minute walk from volmax.

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    4M40, 4M41 AND 4D56 guys can also use the BD7028 if they are out of stock of the BD28 the main difference is it's just a little bit longer and a little bit bigger in diameter but fits perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KCboy View Post
    i've travelled 1600kms already since i changed to the baldwin fuel filter last august 2011, i didnt notice any difference,
    i also added 2t whenever i refuel. you should be ok.....kung may masisisra, baka maunahan na kita.
    thats good to know sir... knock on wood sana wala namang masira hehehe about the 2t naman, kamusta ba sir? may napansin ba kayung difference or what? kasi yung mga kasama natin sa TSCP was descouraging me very well....sa mga dumptruck lang daw nila ginagawa yun.....


    Quote Originally Posted by KCboy View Post
    sir,

    parehong pareho na strada natin, from the oil, oil filter all the way to the fuel filter.heheheheh

    thanks to you and dvldoc for this thread and i wad able to decide on switching to baldwin filters, lower price but better quality.

    im luck i just live 1 minute walk from volmax.
    hehehe....actually sir to be honest, I've waited for somebody who would try the product first, sakto namang naswerte ako na may una ngang sumubok at nadoble pa lalo dahil naka strada rin..... so thanks to you talaga! di lang ako nasatisfy nakatipid pa ko....

    BTW, Advance Merry Christmas to the People of this thread!

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    Does Baldwin BF7534 fit the 4D56?

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    All I can say is holly god, look how bad that fake filter is made, Look at the over running glue everywhere. The second half of the filter has some super cheap media that looks like thick cardboard and shows it hardly caught anything compared to the closer spaced media. Also see how the glue is oozing out, that can easily make it's way into your engine. Or worse yet the media blow completly out and not be filtering at all. Either way Pacer should pay attention to this filter as it's clearly not a real Fleetguard and could cause damage to someone's engine. (I'm sure they still follow the thread)

    A real Fleetguard would have also been stack disk not just a second filter element like OEM, it should look like the Donaldson equivalent.




    Good thing you got that off the vehicle it looks like the glue was breaking down and starting to run out of the filter. This is a prime reason you never run a knock off, you never know what the quality is and the quality of that one is piss poor. Your better off with a VIC than a China clone of any filter.


    As far as the fuel filter goes, JS filter shows a different cross reference for the 4m41 but then again they could have a error in there database. Kinda hard to cross it stateside because that engine does not exist here.

    But when I search the OEM fuel filter number is ME132525 which equals BF7842. maybe it's only for a certain production year. But if that fits then use it. I am not always right but I do my best to research part numbers as hard as possible. But looks like the older 4m41's use the same filter as the 4d56 and 4m40.

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    Here are a few other issues with that LF3830 it's not supposed to b a combo/bypass filter it's a full flow which means a single element. The cross for a BD28 for Fleetguard is LF3564 which is a combo filter. So not only did the China fake make a piss poor filter they got the filter element wrong as well.

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    Weeeew! I think I got it out just in the nick of time

    i was also wondering what are those bronzy things pooping out of the media....Little I had know that its the glue that bonds it....


    thanks for all the info doc, well appreciated!

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    Quote Originally Posted by locoroco777 View Post
    Weeeew! I think I got it out just in the nick of time

    i was also wondering what are those bronzy things pooping out of the media....Little I had know that its the glue that bonds it....


    thanks for all the info doc, well appreciated!
    Sir how much per liter ng truck diesel turbo? Where? Thanks

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