OEM counterpart? (Iwas rebadge at repack sa casa)

**s10pao** · February 22nd, 2014 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by JapanABC

Ang point ko lang naman kahit ISO9001 certified si Company A at ISO9001 din si Company B, may certain differences parin sa quality yan.

sige i-rephrase ko ung point ko kanina. "apples to apples of the same tree" dapat ang comparison. lagi nalang koito vs stanley ang example mo eh magkaiba company nga sila eh at magkaiba ang quality standards nila. ang sinasabi namin eh ung manufacturing plants ni japanese company A na may same ISO certifications, regardless kung saan ung location nila, ay same ang quality standard na sinusunod at may quality management systems sila in place para i-ensure na nasusunod ung quality standards nila.

http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_9000

Quality Management Principles

The standard is based on a number of quality management principles including a strong customer focus, the motivation and implication of top management, the process approach and continual improvement. These principles are explained in more detail in the pdf*Quality Management Principles.
Using ISO 9001:2008 helps ensure that customers get consistent, good quality products and services, which in turn brings many business benefits.

ngayon kung ipagpipilitan mong magkaiba pa rin, magbigay ka na lang ng data or statistics to back-up your point/claim.

**sirkosero** · February 22nd, 2014 11:14 AM

pwede ba gumawa ng ISO thread na lan at dun kayo magpagalingan?

imho the purpose of this thread is to SUGGEST other brands and replacement other than casa parts. lets try to keep it that way please.

peace!

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**dr. d** · February 22nd, 2014 11:21 AM

from what i understand, these ISO eks eks just evaluate the steps in the "manufacture" of the product. but they do not test that product. others do the testing, and their results do not have anything to do with that ISO certification.
there is a difference between the quality control of the steps in manufacture, and the quality testing of the actual product.. it is tempting to equate the two, but they are not.

**s10pao** · February 22nd, 2014 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by dr. d

from what i understand, these ISO eks eks just evaluate the steps in the "manufacture" of the product. but they do not test that product. others do the testing, and their results do not have anything to do with that ISO certification.
there is a difference between the quality control of the steps in manufacture, and the quality testing of the actual product.. it is tempting to equate the two, but they are not.

they are different processes but the essence of that certification is still applicable. you can consider the testing/quality control of the product as the "last step" in the manufacturing process.

**JapanABC** · February 22nd, 2014 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by s10pao

sige i-rephrase ko ung point ko kanina. "apples to apples of the same tree" dapat ang comparison. lagi nalang koito vs stanley ang example mo eh magkaiba company nga sila eh at magkaiba ang quality standards nila. ang sinasabi namin eh ung manufacturing plants ni japanese company A na may same ISO certifications, regardless kung saan ung location nila, ay same ang quality standard na sinusunod at may quality management systems sila in place para i-ensure na nasusunod ung quality standards nila.

ISO 9000 quality management - ISO

ngayon kung ipagpipilitan mong magkaiba pa rin, magbigay ka na lang ng data or statistics to back-up your point/claim.

Ganito lang kasimple ang sinabi ko sa thread na ito, Binanggit ko lang kapag bumili si Kotio sa ibang factory overseas which is not owned by Koito or supervise by Koito dun lang magkakaruon ng difference sa quality ng product nila.

**dr. d** · February 22nd, 2014 01:05 PM

from what i understand, some car manufacturers encourage/allow independents to manufacture replacement parts for their cars, in an effort to bring down the cost of parts and popularize the marquees' repairability. but i am not sure if they actually bless these independents' parts with their seal of approval.. or do they just let "word-of-mouth" do the advertising...?

**chookchakchenes** · February 24th, 2014 02:54 PM

Pag shocks absorber ano brand ok bilhin?

Japan abc, saan sa banawe ok bumili ng surplus na plastic parts sa kotse yung malapit sa handbrake.

**JapanABC** · February 25th, 2014 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by chookchakchenes

Pag shocks absorber ano brand ok bilhin?

Japan abc, saan sa banawe ok bumili ng surplus na plastic parts sa kotse yung malapit sa handbrake.

Pag shocks kasi ang Kayaba maraming classes. May Aftermarket quality, Performance 4X4, Performance Racing and etc...

Premium (44/63/66 Series)- Oil Shocks - Best value standard replacement shock absorbers with self-adjusting
valving, available for most popular cars.

Super (34/33/36 Series)-Gas Shocks - Standard replacement gas charged shock absorbers, offering an
economical upgrade and available for most standard cars.

Gas-A-Just (55 Series)-Mono Tube Gas Shocks - High performance shock absorber with monotube high pressure gas construction, designed for high performance vehicles and 4x4s.

Ultra SR (24/32/35/37 Series) - For ultimate road performance, Kayaba supplies a range of performance shock absorbers called KYB ULTRA SR, specially designed for excellent driving stability and safety for the ambitious sports driver.

AGX (Damping force adjustment gas shocks) - The single damping adjustment on AGX shocks changes both sides, rebound and compression. Depending on the models, there are either four or eight stages of adjustment.

**JapanABC** · February 25th, 2014 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by chookchakchenes

Pag shocks absorber ano brand ok bilhin?

Japan abc, saan sa banawe ok bumili ng surplus na plastic parts sa kotse yung malapit sa handbrake.

Yung Tokico(Owned by Hitachi) kasi medyo nawala na sa PH market, although OEM brand din siya. Meron siyang aftermarket and performance shocks. Sa mga supplier ng Tokico shocks before isa isa nagsurrender, dahil sa price and dahil maskilala ng tao ang KYB na brand.

Anong specific na plastic part sa hand brake, meron ka bang photo?

**JapanABC** · February 26th, 2014 12:57 PM

This is the Test results of different brands of Oil Filter

Oil filter test results!

Results in short:

Champion C138 Very good
Clean DO 851 Very good (with size reservations)
Biltema 502077 Good (with size reservations)
Purolator Micronic Good
Teho OK 174 Good (with reservations)
Fram PH 4967 Satisfactory
Motorcraft EFL391 Satisfactory
Mann W68/80 Passable
M-Filter MH 3347 Passable
Toyota 90915-10001 Inferior
Vic C-110 Inferior

After 5 minutes, % of each particle size [micrometers] filtered:
40 30 20 10

Champion 98 91 64 19
Clean 99 91 66 16
Biltema 99 91 62 16
Purolator 97 86 60 11
Teho 96 89 61 17
Fram 98 87 55 9
Motorcraft 99 90 61 12
Mann 98 88 56 10
M-Filter 96 85 50 10
Toyota 88 77 31 0
Vic 87 71 39 4

After 10 minutes, % of each particle size [micrometers] filtered:
40 30 20 10

Champion 97 90 63 18
Clean 97 91 62 13
Biltema 95 88 56 11
Purolator 97 82 52 9
Teho 98 86 56 15
Fram 97 85 51 5
Motorcraft 97 92 62 16
Mann 96 83 50 7
M-Filter 94 80 47 9
Toyota 81 60 25 1
Vic 81 68 39 4

time until blocked (bypass valve opens):

Champion 16-18 min
Clean 21-23 min
Biltema 29-33 min
Purolator 22-26 min
Teho 16-18 min
Fram 22-26 min
Motorcraft 13-15 min
Mann 25-27 min
M-Filter 19-27 min
Toyota 16-23 min
Vic 20-20 min

Read the rest in the link I provided above