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    #71
    Quote Originally Posted by lowslowbenz View Post
    ISO 9001 is Quality Manangement Systems = Comnpany operations, procedures, reports, audits, etc.

    ISO/TS 16949 is partialy derived from ISO 9001, but is more commonly used in the automotive field, both in servicing and manufacturing.

    However, I'd like to emphasize that ISO markings can be faked.
    This Taiwan company has been certified ISO for 30 Years already.

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    #72
    ^^

    Example lang:

    Hella bulbs made in Germany
    versus
    Hella bulbs made in Turkey
    versus
    Hella bulbs made in Cavite

    All are same in quality.
    Last edited by lowslowbenz; February 21st, 2014 at 02:33 PM.

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    #73
    Quote Originally Posted by JapanABC View Post
    This Taiwan company has been certified ISO for 30 Years already.
    Which Taiwan company (name)?

    Who awarded their certificate?

    SGS?
    Bureau Veritas?
    TUV?
    Intertek?

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    #74
    Quote Originally Posted by s10pao View Post
    again, assuming same company at same product ang ginagawa nila, dapat. kaya nga standard yan eh.




    hindi sila same product, same purpose but different designs. malamang magkaiba talaga ang quality nyan.



    again "apples to apples" dapat ang comparison.
    same company, same product, same certification&standards
    OEM spec (made in japan) vs OEM spec (made in other countries)
    superior quality ang made in japan?

    Diba nga different factories ang pinagkukuhaan, hindi naman galing from the same company yung product eh, sinub contract lang nila sa Thailand, China or other factories.

    Pano magiging same companies kung sa ibang factory(Hindi owned by Koito, Bosch and etc...) nila kinukuha yung product. So pano mo inassume na same PRODUCT, same COMPANY = same quality? Dahil ba lang sa ISO certification

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    #75
    Quote Originally Posted by lowslowbenz View Post
    ^^

    Example lang:

    Hella bulbs made in Germany
    versus
    Hella bulbs made in Turkey
    versus
    Hella bulbs made in Cavite

    All are same in quality.
    haha natawa ako germany, tapos turkey tapos biglang cavite haha

    dapat pareho diba ang quality? labor cost lang dpat nagkatalo?


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    #76
    Quote Originally Posted by lowslowbenz View Post
    ^^

    Example lang:

    Hella bulbs made in Germany
    versus
    Hella bulbs made in Turkey
    versus
    Hella bulbs made in Cavite

    All are same in quality.
    Hella Bulbs, na try ko na bumili niyan ang nakalagay sa Hella na wedge bulb ang nakatatak Stanley pero walang nakasulat kung saan gawa.

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    #77
    ^

    Yup. Its the same all through out on quality.

    Labor and shipment costs lang ang different.

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    #78
    Quote Originally Posted by weszt View Post
    haha natawa ako germany, tapos turkey tapos biglang cavite haha

    dapat pareho diba ang quality? labor cost lang dpat nagkatalo?


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    Sure ka labor cost lang? Pano sa raw materials used in producing the item? Lalo na sa Filament ng bulb which is important.

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    #79
    Quote Originally Posted by weszt View Post
    haha natawa ako germany, tapos turkey tapos biglang cavite haha

    dapat pareho diba ang quality? labor cost lang dpat nagkatalo?


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    Kung labor cost lang ang difference, eh di dapat dito nalang sa Philippines ginagawa lahat ng binebenta sa Philippines na HELLA or other brand tutal labor cost dito sobra mura. Shipping by container hindi na kelangan magbayad dahil delivery by truck nalang. Dapat lahat ng piyesa ng kotse kahit na anong brand dito nalang gawin mura naman labor. Bakit pa nagaaksaya ng oras at shipping at exchange rate na hindi stable, ishiship pa galing Germany, or Turkey. Ishiship pa galing Thailand, Malaysia and Indonesia dito sa Philippines. Sayang oras, sayang bayad sa shipping, tapos may exchange rate pa.

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    #80
    Quote Originally Posted by weszt View Post
    haha natawa ako germany, tapos turkey tapos biglang cavite haha

    dapat pareho diba ang quality? labor cost lang dpat nagkatalo?


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    Bakit hindi nalang sa Cavite o Laguna gawin lahat ng Hella products, bakit yung wiper blade ng Hella kelangan pa sa China gawa eh ishiship pa yan dito. Bakit yung wedge bulb ng Hella kelangan Stanley pa gumawa, hindi nalang dito sa PH na HELLA brand dapat mismo nakatatak sa bulb?

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