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    #41
    i'm pretty sure they're not. group V is ester based oil and mobil 1 does not have an oil that is ester based locally. only motul 300v (not all motul oils are group V) and redline if i'm not mistaken are the group V that are available here.

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    #42
    Quote Originally Posted by kutangbato View Post
    speedyfix,

    does it mean na ang Royal Purple ay group 5 oil?
    sir....going back to this.....so ang Royal Purple ay hindi Group 5 oil?....

    And ung mga imported na Mobil 1 ay considered Group 5 ester based oil.

    HELP Please.

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    #43
    RP is group IV. it's a PAO oil.

    again i doubt mobil 1 even if imported is ester. it's normally a group 3 composed of a mineral base stock with synthetic additives.

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    #44
    Quote Originally Posted by speedyfix View Post
    RP is group IV. it's a PAO oil.

    again i doubt mobil 1 even if imported is ester. it's normally a group 3 composed of a mineral base stock with synthetic additives.
    I can't find the file that I read somewhere before but Mobil 1 is PAO oil as well. Hindi nga group V, group IV. Ester based. Anyway, it's good oil. Factory used by BMW, Porsche, MB and other high-end cars. RP and Motul are race inspired as well so talagang maganda din. Pareho pati price maganda.
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    #45
    group iv is not ester based. only group v is.

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    #46
    Question po, kakatapos ko lang po magchange oil with synthetic oil. pwede po ba na ang idagdag ko if kulangin na xa is mineral oil? pano po if vice versa naman po... salamat po sa makakasagot.

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    #47
    You should not mix different types of oil and you should only use 1 brand of the same type of oil, for example, you must not mix Shell synthetic oil with Mobil 1 synthetic oil.

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    #48
    it's better to mix kaysa maubusan ka ng oil, but i wouldn't leave it long and i'd replace it the first chance i could.

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    #49
    para sa akin SAE 0-50 fully synthetic with grade SM / CD + additive ang mas prefered ko less buting-ting at pino ang andar ng engine more HP, quick response, basta ikanga pag tingin mo dapat palitan na ang oil palit na para hindi cya magka sludge

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    #50
    Before pouring any oil into your engine, consider the condition and type of driving you do. Check also your vehicle's warranty with regards to use of synth or mineral oils. Generally, it is a modest move to use mineral oil in both brand new and older, high mileage engines. I say again, except for some which requires the use of synthetics as per factory specs on brand new engines today.

    Synthetics compared to mineral oils are so slippery they may prevent proper break-in of engines. Older engines are looser and tend to use more oil. Synthetics will pass through worn-out parts like the piston rings and will be used up faster than mineral oils. If your car have, at present, leaks and uses oil, it will leak and use more synthetic oil.

    Synthetic oil reduce friction and give greater fuel mileage for most highway driving. Under this condition, the replacement interval is extended provided the filter will do good at that interval. if filter can't do it's job, contaminants will build up inside the engine, no matter what type of oil we use.

    As per my info, vehicles driven hard i.e. stop-and-go, short distances and similar situations, require servicing more frequently. In this situation a synthetic may not be a wise investment because for the main reason that you cannot take advantage of the long recommended change interval of synthetic oils.

    AS for the oil that i use, I'm using Delo gold 15w-40. I've been debating myself for what to use next for some experiment and my choices are Valvoline premium and mobil. Mineral multigrade.

    AS per my experiment with the tractors we maintain at my workplace, we have so far used Total Rubia mono, Castrol CR-B and Delo gold monograde. I mean no harm to the Castrol brand but what I observed is that it took about two weeks time for this oil to darken. The other two took only a few hours of use.

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    #51
    Quote Originally Posted by speedyfix View Post
    it's better to mix kaysa maubusan ka ng oil, but i wouldn't leave it long and i'd replace it the first chance i could.
    Agreed but alex_13 intends to "top-up" his newly changed synthetic oil with mineral oil.

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    #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    Agreed but alex_13 intends to "top-up" his newly changed synthetic oil with mineral oil.
    IMO kung top-up lang walang masamang mangyayari long-term. Pero next time, yung same brand na lang sana rin if wala na choice. Kasi liek sa shell helix, yung added components lang sa base yung nagpapamahal sa tsikot eh, so more or less compatible pa yan.

    Next oil change naman mapapalitan na majotiry eh. Not much worry IMO.
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    #53
    do turbo diesel need fully synthetic oil, or can i use mineral

    wala kasi ako mabasa sa booklet ng 4m41 na "use fully synthetic oil only" and nag tanong ako sa mitsubishi marcos na ang nirerecomend daw nila eh fully synthetic dahil daw turbo diesel ang makina ko

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    #54
    Quote Originally Posted by igiwtf View Post
    do turbo diesel need fully synthetic oil, or can i use mineral

    wala kasi ako mabasa sa booklet ng 4m41 na "use fully synthetic oil only" and nag tanong ako sa mitsubishi marcos na ang nirerecomend daw nila eh fully synthetic dahil daw turbo diesel ang makina ko
    +1. can i use mineral oil for my 4m40? right now im using semi-synthetic e.

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    #55
    Quote Originally Posted by igiwtf View Post
    do turbo diesel need fully synthetic oil, or can i use mineral

    wala kasi ako mabasa sa booklet ng 4m41 na "use fully synthetic oil only" and nag tanong ako sa mitsubishi marcos na ang nirerecomend daw nila eh fully synthetic dahil daw turbo diesel ang makina ko
    Basta multigrade na pasado sa API rating na kelangan puwede na. But for new engines, use semi or fully synthetic depending upon your service intervals. You can compute naman whichever will give the best benefit and not much cost.

    for example, twice a year ka lang magpapalit since hindi malalayo biyahe mo, better to use semi or fully syn para ok pa oil mo kahit matagal na sa engine. Kung every 3 months ka magpapalit, multigrade or semi-syn is best.
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    #56
    mineral or synthetic, parehas pwede naman basta you follow the correct drain interval

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    #57
    Quote Originally Posted by igiwtf View Post
    do turbo diesel need fully synthetic oil, or can i use mineral

    wala kasi ako mabasa sa booklet ng 4m41 na "use fully synthetic oil only" and nag tanong ako sa mitsubishi marcos na ang nirerecomend daw nila eh fully synthetic dahil daw turbo diesel ang makina ko

    CF-4 or CH-4 rated by API are designed for turbo charge diesel engine.

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    #58
    buy the best oil with the best specifications( additive package/base oil)...

    pag mineral kaya mostly 5000kms ang recommended change oil because it degrades very easily when used...
    if you use semi synthetic you can extend it a little further provided you use a good filter...(not VIC)
    if you use fully synthetic you can DEFINITELY extend your intervals...and extend it FURTHER with a good filter again...(not VIC)

    the TRUE advantage of fully synthetics over semi and mineral oils is not the interval it can give but the edge in terms of
    *shear protection (oil film strength)
    *soot dispersion (can hold more particles in suspension)
    *fuel economy (high viscosity, superb cold start protection)
    *and resistance to oil oxidation due to the fact that they are synthetics (degradation)

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    #59
    mineral oil is fine if you're very religious with your intervals. if you'd like a bit more leeway with it then better to use full syn oil.

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    #60
    Ako I'm not sold on semi synt, either mag mineral ka or fully synth...

Mineral , semi synthetic or fully synthetic?