intermittent namatayan / start

[Moonlighter]

Sir Vanityq,

Hindi po ba napalitan na ninyo iyong fuel pump 11 months ago? Tapos bumalik ang tirik now na lang ulit? Iniisip ninyo po ba na fuel pump ulit ang sira? Ganun ho ba kabilis masira ang fuel pump?
May ganyan rin po kasi akong experience today eh. Toyota Corolla naman siya - 2E. Namamatay ang makina bigla na lang, kapag nag-start ka ... mag-start naman siya. Kasi bago na ang baterya, pero noong luma pa ayaw na mag-start. So, bawas na 2 possible cause - baterya at alternator. Next naman pinalitan ang fuel filter, then fuel pump - ganun pa rin. Tapos naglinis ng carb - ganun pa rin. Tapos ipina-overhaul na ang makina -- ganun pa rin. Ipina-overhaul ang carb, ganun pa rin. Pinalitan ang distributor at mga high tension wires - ganun pa rin. Sa ngayon ginagawa pa rin siya ... kaya nag-browse ako rito baka may makuha akong tip. Kaso lahat ng nabasa ko so far, nagawa na namin. May oba pa ba kayong suggestion?

[Moonlighter]

Sir Vanityq,

Hindi po ba napalitan na ninyo iyong fuel pump 14 months ago? Tapos bumalik ang tirik now na lang ulit? Iniisip ninyo po ba na fuel pump ulit ang sira? Ganun ho ba kabilis masira ang fuel pump?
May ganyan rin po kasi akong experience today eh. Toyota Corolla naman siya - 2E. Namamatay ang makina bigla na lang, kapag nag-start ka ... mag-start naman siya. Kasi bago na ang baterya, pero noong luma pa ayaw na mag-start. So, bawas na 2 possible cause - baterya at alternator. Next naman pinalitan ang fuel filter, then fuel pump - ganun pa rin. Tapos naglinis ng carb - ganun pa rin. Tapos ipina-overhaul na ang makina -- ganun pa rin. Ipina-overhaul ang carb, ganun pa rin. Pinalitan ang distributor at mga high tension wires - ganun pa rin. Sa ngayon ginagawa pa rin siya ... kaya nag-browse ako rito baka may makuha akong tip. Kaso lahat ng nabasa ko so far, nagawa na namin. May iba pa ba kayong suggestion?

[Moonlighter]

Sir Vanityq,

Hindi po ba napalitan na ninyo iyong fuel pump 14 months ago? Tapos bumalik ang tirik now na lang ulit? Iniisip ninyo po ba na fuel pump ulit ang sira? Ganun ho ba kabilis masira ang fuel pump?
May ganyan rin po kasi akong experience today eh. Toyota Corolla naman siya - 2E. Namamatay ang makina bigla na lang, kapag nag-start ka ... mag-start naman siya. Kasi bago na ang baterya, pero noong luma pa ayaw na mag-start. So, bawas na 2 possible cause - baterya at alternator. Next naman pinalitan ang fuel filter, then fuel pump - ganun pa rin. Tapos naglinis ng carb - ganun pa rin. Tapos ipina-overhaul na ang makina -- ganun pa rin. Ipina-overhaul ang carb, ganun pa rin. Pinalitan ang distributor at mga high tension wires - ganun pa rin. Sa ngayon ginagawa pa rin siya ... kaya nag-browse ako rito baka may makuha akong tip. Kaso lahat ng nabasa ko so far, nagawa na namin. May iba pa ba kayong suggestion?

[reym]

*Arlmi2000,

Problema mo ignition coil.

Parang ganyan din nangyari sa nissan pulsar ko. namamatay makina pro malayo na natakbo mga more than 30KM na. Pro namamatay lang makina pag naka on ung Aircon at matraffic. Pag namatay ayaw mag start redondo lang. Mga after 15 mins na nakarest start na ulit at tuloy tuloy na hanggang maka-abot ako sa destinasyon about 80KM pa.

Siguro sa 10 beses ko na nagbiyahe e 2 times na nangyari sakin at during traffic at nakasindi Aircon. Pag hindi nakasindi aircon at matraffic e d naman nagyayari.

Isa pa ay mahirap cya start pag umaga pro pag na start na one click nalang khit sa hapon ko pa cya uli start.

Napansin ko dn pag nagbibyahe ako e nag flufuctuate ung rpm na parang binobomba ko gas pedal. minsan e ayaw gumana naka point lang sa zero pro umaandar naman makina.

Ano kaya mga dude problema ng pulsar ko?

Thanks in advance sa mga reply nyo.

[vanityq]

Parang suko na ata ako ang sakit isipin..
Tinirik ako ulit kanina lang, after 10min buti nagstart ulit. Kakapalit lang ni manong sa fuel pump nung isang araw saka tune up.

Next stop Ignition coil mapalitan. Other causes pa kaya?

Sir Vanityq,
. May iba pa ba kayong suggestion?

Hindi mo na ba na itatakbo pag nagstart? sakin kasi pag umandar ulit nakakalayo na ulit.

[vanityq]

my van just stalled again twice this day. Pero nagstart naman din agad after mamatayan.

kakapalit lang ng fuelpump and ignition coil

any more advise para pa check ko.
dinala ko na sa rapide, di nila ma diagnose gusto nila actual na hindi nag sstart ang engine

[Galactus]

It may be a longshot, pero try mo pa-check yung ECU. Baka may mga capacitors nang sira. (That is, kung may ECU na ang Vanette).

In my case pala, it was the ignition coil.

[p_borj]

*vanityq - try mong ipalinis ang fuel injectors. kung gusto mo, try mo muna yung mga additives na nilalagay sa gas tank.

whew, nasundan ko ang thread mo ha hehe.

[vanityq]

*vanityq - try mong ipalinis ang fuel injectors. kung gusto mo, try mo muna yung mga additives na nilalagay sa gas tank.

whew, nasundan ko ang thread mo ha hehe.

Salamat, thanks din sa mga advises.
Kakakuha ko alng ng van kay manong and wala siyang ginalaw okey naman daw kasi inidle niya ng matagal. tsktsktsk
baka bukas ibalik ko check daw niya distributor rotor papamachine shop daw or palitan.

kakahanap sa google ng mga problem related dito pa din ako sa tsikot bumagsak
http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showt...t=53666&page=7

shauskie's post sana makatulong i think same scenario ko ngayon yan.

keep you updated this week saka may kontak ba kayo ni shauskie? gusto ko sana makausap

[vanityq]

Already changed the Distibutor cap and Tension wires, i noticed changes in speed and acceleration gumanda hatak niya.

been using the van everyday for straight 1 week with at least 25km/day.
then pahinga sa bahay for 4days(mon-thur)
used it again on friday and okey naman lahat

but bigla nanaman akong itinigil nanaman ako the next day saturday(kahapon ito) but nagstart naman uilt after few minutes.

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could it be the gasoline kaya? may halong tubig... im filling my tank at petron bf

[shauskie]

Already changed the Distibutor cap and Tension wires, i noticed changes in speed and acceleration gumanda hatak niya.

been using the van everyday for straight 1 week with at least 25km/day.
then pahinga sa bahay for 4days(mon-thur)
used it again on friday and okey naman lahat

but bigla nanaman akong itinigil nanaman ako the next day saturday(kahapon ito) but nagstart naman uilt after few minutes.

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could it be the gasoline kaya? may halong tubig... im filling my tank at petron bf

vanityq, sori ngayon ko lang napansin pm mo...sa ibang site lang kasi tayo nagkakareplyan dati e....anyway heto yung nakasolved sa problem ko sa vanette ko...pero di ko sure kung magkapareho tayo ng naging cause..pero ang ibig ko sabihin is sa distributor ang problema..sa ignition system pa rin kya intermittent tirik sakin dati... same din, napalitan ko na lahat kaya bago na lahat ignition system ko including ignition switch,,pero tirik pa rin until nahuli ko sa distributor assy. check mo post ko last time...see below...
sa E10 fuel...ok lang ...di ka ititirik dahil natry ko na gumamit...madali lang makasira ng parts pag di pa e10 compatible ang material.


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cvt, sa ngayon ok na ulit yung vanette ko. it's been two weeks now of observation and verification...confirmed ko na rin yung culprit. i got different case of trouble. nasa ignition system yung problema and it was induced by mechanical failure of distributor. yung unstable movement ng tachometer is caused by worn out breaker plate bearing, kaya pabagobago ang idle speed and until mamatay na sya sometimes on idling..then yung biglang namamatay while cruising is dahil sa offset pala yung alignment ng rotor sa distributor cap contacts. yung misalignment ay dahil sa nagpalit ako ng arm ng vacuum advancer dati pa..mga 3 year ago na because nasira na yung una pa..leaky na yung canister..ibang vacuum canister yung pinalit ko kaya pinahinangan ko lang ng ibang arm..medyo napahaba kya na-offset yung rotation ng breaker plate. since na bago yung rotor and cap before, nakakatalon pa yung high voltage between contacts and nung mapudpod na, lumaki na yung gap..this now resulted to misfiring and stalling...when i repaired the old distributor, i got good response so last saturday bumili na ako ng surplus sa banawe...so ngayon stable na ulit yung van. sa ngayon xcs gamit ko na fuel...E10 is bad for local parts..yung pickup screen nung bago kong fuel pump e na-deformed at natanggal sa pump dahil lumuwag..buti binunot ko ulit yung pump for checking kya nakita ko..ikinabit ko ulit yung lumang original..anyway mga vanette owners, salamat sa mga inputs and tips about troubleshooting, great help satin lahat to.. safe driving to all.

[duskylim]

Dear Sir:

That was a long saga of diagnosis and repair.

That is the only way to learn however.

Just a little advice:

In and internal combustion engine, you need 2 things to make it run -

1) Spark - electricity - the next time tumirik ka, take off one of the spark plug wires and place it NEAR a body ground - then have someone crank the engine - no spark or weak spark and you won't run at all.

2) Fuel - no gas going in, no run no start. Bring along a small bottle of lacquer thinner, next time tumirik ka, take off the air filter and pour a small capfull of thinner down the inlet manifold throat - if it runs then you have a fuel problem.

These small tests will give you clues as how to proceed.

Sincerely,

Dusky Lim

[kudil]

Good am.

Ung 96 mitsu lancer ko ayaw magstart pag malamig. redondo lang. after the distributor was removed or reset, nagsta-start. pero ganun pa rin ayaw mag-start pag malamig. Palit distributor ok na.

Also have a prob with my toyota corolla 98 recently. Pag nag-menor from high gear biglang merong "klug-klug" sound tapos patay makina. Mag-start lang uli after 15 minutes. D siya patay pag low gear lang. Carburetor repair kit done, ignition coil replaced, ayaw pa rin po. Help please! Thanks.

[CivicVTi]

Also have a prob with my toyota corolla 98 recently. Pag nag-menor from high gear biglang merong "klug-klug" sound tapos patay makina. Mag-start lang uli after 15 minutes. D siya patay pag low gear lang. Carburetor repair kit done, ignition coil replaced, ayaw pa rin po. Help please! Thanks.

Parang may problema sa fuel delivery. Check kung ok pa ang fuel pump, baka nahihirapan na magdeliver ng fuel mula tank papunta engine. Check or replace na din ang fuel filter, baka barado na.

[vanityq]

Update on my Intermittent Problem: (vanet gas engine Still Stalling)

Found out last weekend na gasoline problem, after 30minutes of driving namamatay na siya and will start after 3-5 minutes. Check the tension wire and may karga naman ng kuryente upon checkin.

Already replaced the following accordingly:
-Fuel pump
-Fuel Filter
-Ignition Coil
-Distributor Cap
-Tension Wires
-Cleaned the carburetor
-removed strainer going to carb
-Newly tunedup and adjusted the contactpt/condenser


Parang nawawala bigla ang gasolina and sudden stall will happen.
What else to check other than this:?
-Fuel lines
-Fuel pump relay
-rotor distributor
may kinalaman din kaya itong mga ito?


what could be the EXACT problem. Suggest pa kayo, nakakaiyak na ito.

[duskylim]

Dear Sir:

No-one can seriously give you an EXACT answer to your problem unless they actually see and test the vehicle.

Basically I can say this:

if the engine dies slowly, it is more likely than not to be a fuel-related problem.

if the engine dies quickly, it is most likely an electrical or ignition-related problem.

Sincerely,

Dusky Lim

[shauskie]

Update on my Intermittent Problem: (vanet gas engine Still Stalling)

Found out last weekend na gasoline problem, after 30minutes of driving namamatay na siya and will start after 3-5 minutes. Check the tension wire and may karga naman ng kuryente upon checkin.

Already replaced the following accordingly:
-Fuel pump
-Fuel Filter
-Ignition Coil
-Distributor Cap
-Tension Wires
-Cleaned the carburetor
-removed strainer going to carb
-Newly tunedup and adjusted the contactpt/condenser


Parang nawawala bigla ang gasolina and sudden stall will happen.
What else to check other than this:?
-Fuel lines
-Fuel pump relay
-rotor distributor
may kinalaman din kaya itong mga ito?


what could be the EXACT problem. Suggest pa kayo, nakakaiyak na ito.

sad to here bro..pero maayus yan..don't loose hope. naalala ko dati yung sakin ganyan din.
para malaman mo kung nawawala yung gas mo sa carb, pagnamatay, silipin mo agad sa small window glass ng carb (dapat half ng window meron). pwede mo munang i-bypass yung fuel pump relay...place a jumper on pin 1&2 of female plug facing you.. sa distirbutor naman, pwedeng may kinalaman kung pareho tayo ng cause tulad ng post ko sa query mo.

[vanityq]

BUMP! Dinala ko sa JM tapat ng Uniwide. Hinusgahan agad ang Ignition Coil. I told them bago yun, and they still insisted. Yung Nagtitinda saka yung mekaniko. They offered me refund so pumayag ako. Ayun i just refunded the Cost of ignition Coil since same stalling problem. Tomorrow i might bring it sa suking mekaniko. But still having second thoughts gusto kasi niya i overhaul ang Carb ko, should i go or not? Have not check the Fuel Lines pauna ko muna ito. Pano ba ang proper checking non? Mine kasi from pump is hose tapos may aluminum tube then hose again to carb. thanks sa mga sumusubaybay and replies niyo

[vanityq]

Update

Just had my Carb overhauled - Gumaan ang pedal ng gasolina, gumanda hatak
Checked the Fuel Lines - OK naman
Bagong tune up ulit - Dry naman spark plugs

Under Observation pa, sana okey na siya... Sobrang dumi daw ng carb ko

Next in line to check distro assy. pag nagstall pa.

[vanityq]

Update
Just had my Carb overhauled - Gumaan ang pedal ng gasolina, gumanda hatak
Checked the Fuel Lines - OK naman
Bagong tune up ulit - Dry naman spark plugs

Sad to report nagstall nanaman ako yesterday. nakakastress, sa may domestic road ako inabutan nang tumirik turning left to MIA road. Exacto naka red light and nagstart naman after few tries before mag green !whEw!

Update ko lang (Nissan Vanet 96 Gas Engine)
Already replaced the following accordingly:
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-Fuel pump
-Fuel Filter
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-Ignition Coil
-Distributor Cap
-Tension Wires
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-Choked the carburetor
-removed strainer ng carb
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-Newly tune-up and adjusted the contactpt/condenser
-Overhaul Carburetor / Reinstall yung strainer
-Fuel Lines - OK
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mga suggestions from others
-distributor assembly
-ignition switch
-fuel pump relay
-fuel pressure
-check corroded wirings (alternator/batteries)
-engine starter

Im thinking of bringing it to CASA for diagnostic test medyo mahal ang distributor assy baka hindi sira sugalan ko ba? (distro/casa)

Any replies would be very much appreciated. =,(
what else to replace/check

TIA