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    #601
    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    Nadale na din ako nyan fake filter... may tig 250 at 300 pesos.. yung 300 pesos orig.. yung 250 fake..

    Magaan yung fake at walang print ng code sa bottom portion ng filter.. pati yung hologram sticker kita mo iba.. kahit sa loob tanaw yung metal na nag hold sa element iba din itsura..
    Usually fake filters have bad looking light duty and bad quality/performance bypass valves which would have a high chance of popping out any time when it reaches a certain pressure it could not withstand, also most of them you can no longer see the filter media pleating due to the inner steel cage they used has covered most of the the holes for the oil to go through para hindi mo makita yung pleating or paper color ng so called Genuine filters, dun sa dalawang point palang I mentioned you'll know that it is fake.

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    #602
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    doc ito yung standard na requirement sa akin

    THREAD: M20 x 1.5
    APPLICATION: Dodge, Eagle, Ford, Honda, Infiniti, Mazda, Mitsubishi, Nissan, Plymouth Automotive
    Anti-Drainback Valve;14 PSID By-Pass Valve


    Ito ginagamit ko

    THREAD: M20 x 1.5
    APPLICATION: Equipment with Cummins A1400, A1700, A2000, A2300 Engines
    CONTAINS: Anti-Drainback Valve;14 PSID By-Pass Valve


    Thank you sa kaibigan ko.
    You missed one important thing, yung sukat ng o-ring gasket should also be measure example "50"mm×"70"mm.

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    #603
    ^
    pantay sila kaya bwenas ako may oil filter ako heavy duty na pwede sa automotive.

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    #604
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    ^
    pantay sila kaya bwenas ako may oil filter ako heavy duty na pwede sa automotive.
    Are they using the same media? I mean, is one filter more restrictive than the other or vice versa?

    If you look at the specs, those Cummins power units are low-rev, industrial-grade engines which are typically producing 60HP to as low as 20HP.

    Using the oil filter meant for the Cummins in a high-revving or even a turbo-charged engine might not be a good idea.

    Maintaining the correct oil pressure in the engine is a balance between having the correct oil viscosity, oil pump pressure, engine tolerances, and the filter media, among a few other factors (ie. temperature, RPM, etc.) That said, too little pressure from an overly-constricted filter media can starve a high-revving engine of oil. But the most likelihood that will happen is that, everytime you rev up, the oil might just go through the bypass valve, unfiltered.

    Of course, these are all conjecture but then again, it's better to use parts that are specifically designed for your engine rather than use one that you might perceive to be better without knowing all the details.

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    #605
    Quote Originally Posted by oj88 View Post
    Are they using the same media? I mean, is one filter more restrictive than the other or vice versa?

    If you look at the specs, those Cummins power units are low-rev, industrial-grade engines which are typically producing 60HP to as low as 20HP.

    Using the oil filter meant for the Cummins in a high-revving or even a turbo-charged engine might not be a good idea.

    Maintaining the correct oil pressure in the engine is a balance between having the correct oil viscosity, oil pump pressure, engine tolerances, and the filter media, among a few other factors (ie. temperature, RPM, etc.) That said, too little pressure from an overly-constricted filter media can starve a high-revving engine of oil. But the most likelihood that will happen is that, everytime you rev up, the oil might just go through the bypass valve, unfiltered.

    Of course, these are all conjecture but then again, it's better to use parts that are specifically designed for your engine rather than use one that you might perceive to be better without knowing all the details.
    These are the videos of Mpa(Megapascal) pressure test before pumutok ang oil filter ng C-110 sa Dai-wa, JS Asakashi & VIC brands from Youtube. It shows VIC medyo malapit sa house brand Dai-wa brand na pumutok at 1.7 Mpa or 246 Psi while VIC brand filter pumutok at 2.1 Mpa or 304 Psi and then last JS Asakashi brand pumutok at 2.4 Mpa or 348 Psi. Masmaganda pa JS Askashi kaysa VIC brand.

    Link:
    Dai-wa, VIC & JS Asakashi oil filter pressure test - youtube

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    #606
    Quote Originally Posted by carwhacko View Post
    Bakit marami parin hooked sa K&N? Marami rin nagttestify na okay yung product?


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    Ito mismo video tinesting nila mismo sa USA ang filtration ng Fram, WIX, K&N and even a generic brand from China pero it showed that even the generic house brand from China was able to filter more than a K&N filter. Pinakita sa video gumamit siya ng dirt particle contaminants to test the filters and K&N shown to perform the poorest.

    Link:
    Which Car Air Filter is Best? Let's find out! Fram, K&N, Wix, Purolator, & AC Delco showdown - YouTube

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    #607
    How about Union Japan? Any info on how it stacks up?

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    #608
    oj,

    not sure if same media. Pero ginagamit ko na ito since 2014 pa.

    Pero gets ko yung pinopoint out mo.

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    #609
    Quote Originally Posted by JapanABC View Post
    These are the videos of Mpa(Megapascal) pressure test before pumutok ang oil filter ng C-110 sa Dai-wa, JS Asakashi & VIC brands from Youtube. It shows VIC medyo malapit sa house brand Dai-wa brand na pumutok at 1.7 Mpa or 246 Psi while VIC brand filter pumutok at 2.1 Mpa or 304 Psi and then last JS Asakashi brand pumutok at 2.4 Mpa or 348 Psi. Masmaganda pa JS Askashi kaysa VIC brand.

    Link:
    Dai-wa, VIC & JS Asakashi oil filter pressure test - youtube
    I think what OJ is saying is how do we know these aftermarket filters have the same flow rates and bypass valve opening pressures as oem? These are equally important as filtration efficiency.

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    #610
    Balak ko bumili ng JS oil filter. Wala naman siguro fake sa Lazada saka sa Shopee?

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    #611
    Quote Originally Posted by toast View Post
    Balak ko bumili ng JS oil filter. Wala naman siguro fake sa Lazada saka sa Shopee?
    Madami peke sa lazada. Konting backread lang may nagsasabi na may nabiling peke sa lazada.

    Sent from my MI MAX 2 using Tapatalk

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    #612
    Quote Originally Posted by toast View Post
    Balak ko bumili ng JS oil filter. Wala naman siguro fake sa Lazada saka sa Shopee?
    May mga alam ako kung sino ang authorized dealers ng JS Asakashi filters sa Lazada and Shopee.
    Kapag bumili kayo sa mga link below for sure 100% original kasi naverify ko na sila sa JS Asakashi official distributor, for sure I can assure you 100% from the shops below.

    Ito ang mga alam ko authorized dealers ng JS Asakashi:
    Shop at F2 Auto Parts | lazada.com.ph
    Shop at ROADSIDE | lazada.com.ph
    Shop at Hobbies N' Stuff | lazada.com.ph

    The rest hindi pa naverify ng distributor ng JS Asakashi.

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    #613
    Quote Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r View Post
    I think what OJ is saying is how do we know these aftermarket filters have the same flow rates and bypass valve opening pressures as oem? These are equally important as filtration efficiency.
    Mann+Hummel Germany the biggest O.E. manufacturer of filters in the world to major car manufacturers owns WIX Filters company which the company itself is O.E.M. to major car companies such as:
    Alfa Romeo
    Aston Martin
    Audi
    BMW
    Citroen
    Ford
    Harley-Davidson
    Holden
    Jaguar
    Land Rover
    Mercedez Benz
    Nissan & Infiniti
    Porsche
    Renault
    Rolls Royce
    Seat
    Skoda
    Tesla (Yes. Electric vehicles still have filters) - Shocked noh?
    Vauxhall
    Volkswagen
    Volvo

    Electric car's filters are different from combustion engine filters. Watch the link below:
    MANN HUMMEL E-Mobility - YouTube video

    PS. Mann+Hummel Germany also owns the Purolator brand side by side with WIX.

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    #614
    Quote Originally Posted by JapanABC View Post
    May mga alam ako kung sino ang authorized dealers ng JS Asakashi filters sa Lazada and Shopee.
    Kapag bumili kayo sa mga link below for sure 100% original kasi naverify ko na sila sa JS Asakashi official distributor, for sure I can assure you 100% from the shops below.

    Ito ang mga alam ko authorized dealers ng JS Asakashi:
    Shop at F2 Auto Parts | lazada.com.ph
    Shop at ROADSIDE | lazada.com.ph
    Shop at Hobbies N' Stuff | lazada.com.ph

    The rest hindi pa naverify ng distributor ng JS Asakashi.
    Thank you sir

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    #615
    yung concern kasi ni oj88 eh im using a filter meant for industrial diesel engine tapos ang kotse ko eh gasolina. So a valid concern.

    Pero ginagamit ko since 2014 pa and so far ok naman engine.

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    #616
    I finally had the time cut out the JS Asakashi, WIX and VIC oil filters just to see what's inside. I'll post the contents here in a few days.
    Let me tell you a hint, VIC's filter media, glue and pleating is not looking good. Was able to acquire these filters directly from the suppliers.
    If you guys want to know by yourself what's inside VIC filters try buying C-110 or C-306 the biggest demand filters from VIC, cut it out by yourselves and you can see for yourself what's inside a VIC filter.

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    #617
    Quote Originally Posted by JapanABC View Post
    May mga alam ako kung sino ang authorized dealers ng JS Asakashi filters sa Lazada and Shopee.
    Kapag bumili kayo sa mga link below for sure 100% original kasi naverify ko na sila sa JS Asakashi official distributor, for sure I can assure you 100% from the shops below.

    Ito ang mga alam ko authorized dealers ng JS Asakashi:
    Shop at F2 Auto Parts | lazada.com.ph
    Shop at ROADSIDE | lazada.com.ph
    Shop at Hobbies N' Stuff | lazada.com.ph

    The rest hindi pa naverify ng distributor ng JS Asakashi.
    suki ako nyan ni hobbies n stuff.. minsan mas ok na bumili online eh kesa sa mga autoshop lalo na kung oil at filter lang.. di na malayo ang presyo..

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    #618
    Quote Originally Posted by JapanABC View Post
    Mann+Hummel Germany the biggest O.E. manufacturer of filters in the world to major car manufacturers owns WIX Filters company which the company itself is O.E.M. to major car companies such as:
    Alfa Romeo
    Aston Martin
    Audi
    BMW
    Citroen
    Ford
    Harley-Davidson
    Holden
    Jaguar
    Land Rover
    Mercedez Benz
    Nissan & Infiniti
    Porsche
    Renault
    Rolls Royce
    Seat
    Skoda
    Tesla (Yes. Electric vehicles still have filters) - Shocked noh?
    Vauxhall
    Volkswagen
    Volvo

    Electric car's filters are different from combustion engine filters. Watch the link below:
    MANN HUMMEL E-Mobility - YouTube video

    PS. Mann+Hummel Germany also owns the Purolator brand side by side with WIX.
    Bro my bad I meant to say industrial, not aftermarket. Cummins industrial filters.
    Last edited by Wh1stl3r; July 25th, 2020 at 06:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r View Post
    Bro my bad I meant to say industrial, not aftermarket. Cummins industrial filters.
    What I mean is that WIX is also an OEM supplier to major car manufacturers, so their products for those car applications are fit with other car manufacturers.

    I know what you meant, but I would just like to point out to the other people reading the forums that WIX is a great choice for both two wheels, passenger cars, light commercial vehicles, industrial equipments, marine & etc...

    Since WIX is also the O.E.M. of several industrial equipment manufacturers like Caterpillar, Case Construction, Eclid, Allis Chalmers, Terex, Fiat-Allis, John Deere, Ingersoll, International Harvester & etc...

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    #620
    Quote Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r View Post
    I think what OJ is saying is how do we know these aftermarket filters have the same flow rates and bypass valve opening pressures as oem? These are equally important as filtration efficiency.
    I know OJ is just speaking that he is using Baldwin filters mainly meant for industrial, but maybe he doesn't know the pressure of the bypass valve specified by the car manufacturer about when should it open to let the engine the oil it needs. He thinks maybe if industrial grade filters it is also good for his car which is not quite the case.

    I also agree that every part of the filter is as important as the filtration efficiency, not to mention that the anti-drain back valve should be able to keep oil inside the filter in order to prevent a dry start during starting an engine, while the gasket should be able to seal the spin-on oil filter so that the oil would not leak.

    I know what you mean bro.

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