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    #541
    Quote Originally Posted by 12vdc View Post
    You should be using hepa filter then, those with carbon activation and ionizer.

    iL pass with being meticulous on cabin filters as my environment is not so polluted. Il just replace them once a year with the cheapest i could find.

    I bet one could die first from inhaling the accumulated carbon dioxide from own breathing because of not opening the car than the toxins from opening the windows in the gas station.

    Also being so much air-clean could weaken the immune system from allergens.

    I'm wearing surgical mask anyway while driving, its the new normal ih.
    You are spreading unverified information, surgical mask can not filter out particulate matter as small as 2.5 or fine dusts that comes from diesel engines, coal and diesel power plants, farming pesticides, mining chemicals and much much more. Only N95 rated masks and 3M masks can filter those out asides from the cheaper alternative like the cabin filter.

    Diesel fumes are highly hazardous to your health, only reputable brands like WIX, JS Asakashi & etc... which have carbon, bio & WIX XP multi-layer protection cabin filters.

    Diesel emission facts
    What Are Diesel Emissions

    WIX XP Cabin filters
    WIX Filters Introduces The WIX XP Cabin Air Filter
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    JS Asakashi Cabin filters
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    #542
    Quote Originally Posted by 12vdc View Post
    You should be using hepa filter then, those with carbon activation and ionizer.

    iL pass with being meticulous on cabin filters as my environment is not so polluted. Il just replace them once a year with the cheapest i could find.

    I bet one could die first from inhaling the accumulated carbon dioxide from own breathing because of not opening the car than the toxins from opening the windows in the gas station.

    Also being so much air-clean could weaken the immune system from allergens.

    I'm wearing surgical mask anyway while driving, its the new normal ih.
    Carbon dioxide is not the only element you should be afraid of inhaling especially if you are in a place where old jeepneys, AUVs such as Tamarraw FX, Revo, Adventure, Crosswind & etc..., buses and commercial van like L300 and trucks that are running in your area you might not see it with your naked eye but it will adversely affect your health.

    Also if what you say is true, then why do cabin filters get this dirty? Can you explain your point further? If basically only recirculated air in the cabin is so clean?
    If you are putting a generic China made filter then you are risking your health to particulate matter that is unseen to the eye.
    Allergens are not the main point of negative effects when using a cabin filter, that is where you are wrong. That is only an add-on feature from the cabin filter.
    The main point of the cabin filter is to clear toxic pollutants from the atmosphere since your immune system does not develop anti-bodies versus toxic pollutants.

    I think you need to get re-educated on how an aircon cabin(inside of a vehicle) filter works.

    Doesn't mean that you are using the re-circulation that polluted air doesn't go inside the vehicle's interior/cabin I think you have a wrong idea or view on how the cars' air-con system works.
    I'm here to tell you that you need to study and research how the AC system works in a vehicle. Polluted air enters through the ventilation system or the air-conditioning system.
    Also generic China cabin filters has less fibers inside compared to high quality filters like Mann+Hummel & WIX brands, means less dust and pollutants are being trapped by the cabin filters since it is less dense and thinner than high quality filters.

    Also FYI(For your information)
    WIX Standard O.E. cabin filters only costs around P380 for vehicles like Vios, Innova, Hilux, Fortuner & etc... up to Subaru models roughly around P900.
    JS Asakashi Standard filters only costs around P300 for vehicles like Vios, Innova, Hilux, Fortuner & etc... up to Subaru models roughly around P600

    You might be buying China filters for similar or more than that amount because auto shops that sell generic China tend to mark-up their dirt cheap products to around 350 pesos to 850 pesos because they are unscrupulous types of merchants.

    The usual tagaan and low quality tindahan/ retail shops are unlike the carefully chosen WIX or JS Asakashi authorized dealers which tend to be more on providing quality service, continuous long term business(Loyal clients) and tend to follow SRP(Suggested retail prices) formulated by reputable suppliers that handle well known brands.

    According to the shops that are authorized dealers of either WIX or JS Asakashi is that they were chosen because they would agree and conform to the distributor's policies like "NO ONE TIME BIG TIME SALE" type of selling, unlike those engage in selling low value and low quality imbento brands exactly like Circuit brand or similar with CD-R King type of brandings.

    Again I'm not here to criticize or provoke people with their hearsay's beliefs, I'm here to educate people who loves cars and normal car owners here more on proper, actual, accurate & well documented facts and figures.

    Your statement is also wrong for latest car models that have no cabin filters. I don't know where you are getting your unverified information from.

    All latest car models except Suzuki cheaper models starting from 2003~UP have cabin filters
    Toyota Wigo, Yaris, Vios, Corolla Altis, Camry, 86, GR Supra, Avanza(Rebadge Daihatsu), Innova, Hilux, Hiace, Previa, Alphard, Rush(Rebadge Daihatsu), Rav4, Fortuner, FJ Cruiser, Landcruiser Prado & Landcruiser
    Mitsubishi Mirage hatchback, Mirage G4, Lancer, Strada, Xpander, ASX, Outlander, Montero Sport & Pajero
    Nissan Almera, Sylphy, Teana, 370z, GT-R, Navara NP300, Urvan NV350, Juke, X-Trail, Terra and Patrol Royale
    Hyundai Eon, Accent hatchback, Veloster, Ioniq, Reina, Accent sedan, Elantra, Grand Starex, H350, Kona, Tucson, Santa Fe & Palisade
    Suzuki Higher end models like Swift, Vitara, Grand Vitara XL-7 & etc...
    Ford Fiesta, Mustang, Ecosport, Ranger, F-150, Transit, Everest, Explorer & Expedition
    Honda Brio hatchback, Jazz, Brio Amaze, City, Civic, Accord, Legend, Mobilio, BR-V, HR-V, CR-V & Pilot
    Isuzu D-Max & Mu-X
    KIA Picanto, Rio, Soluto, Forte, Stinger, Grand Carnival, Seltos, Sportage & Sorento

    So on and so forth
    Chevrolet
    Subaru
    Mazda
    BMW
    Mercedez Benz
    Bentley
    Audi
    Porsche
    Lamborghini
    Lexus
    Volkswagen
    Dodge
    Jeep
    RAM
    Peugeot
    Land Rover
    Jaguar
    Volvo
    Mini Cooper
    Ssangyong
    Aston Martin

    Even China and India car manufacturer brands have cabin air filters, jeeze.
    MG
    BAIC
    GAC
    Geely
    JAC
    Tata


    Check the link below:
    Mann+Hummel Cabin Filters
    WIX Cabin Filters




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    #543
    Quote Originally Posted by babkalakal View Post
    ano ba ang notable brands ng cabin filter na not china made?
    Im using Bosch cabin filter right now not sure of the quality as I have no comparison it is cheaper than casa's cabin filter.

    Sent from my SM-N910C using Tapatalk

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    #544
    For Filters eto mga pinagpipilian ko:

    Oil filter: Baldwin kaso nagmahal na nasa P400 each, WIX reasonable naman price nasa 300 to 350, JS Asakashi, Toyota filter

    Air engine filter: Toyota, WIX, Denso( Aftermarket), JS asakashi, Vic, Sakura

    Cabin filter: Toyota, WIX, Denso( Aftermarket), JS asakashi, Vic, Sakura

    No need to buy cheap unknown filters. Reasonable naman price ng Vic, Denso, JS, at Sakura.

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    #545
    Quote Originally Posted by JapanABC View Post
    Carbon dioxide is not the only element you should be afraid of inhaling especially if you are in a place where old jeepneys, AUVs such as Adventure, Crosswind & etc..., buses and commercial van like L300 and trucks that are running in your area you might not see it with your naked eye but it will adversely affect your health.

    Also if what you say is true, then why do cabin filters get this dirty? Can you explain your point further? If basically only recirculated air in the cabin is so clean?
    If you are putting a generic China made filter then you are risking your health to particulate matter that is unseen to the eye.
    Allergens are not the main point of negative effects when using a cabin filter, that is where you are wrong. That is only an add-on feature from the cabin filter.
    The main point of the cabin filter is to clear toxic pollutants from the atmosphere since your immune system does not develop anti-bodies versus toxic pollutants.

    I think you need to get re-educated on how an aircon cabin(inside of a vehicle) filter works.

    Doesn't mean that you are using the re-circulation that polluted air doesn't go inside the vehicle's interior/cabin I think you have a wrong idea or view on how the cars' air-con system works.
    I'm here to tell you that you need to study and research how the AC system works in a vehicle. Polluted air enters through the ventilation system or the air-conditioning system.
    Also generic China cabin filters has less fibers inside compared to high quality filters like Mann+Hummel & WIX brands, means less dust and pollutants are being trapped by the cabin filters since it is less dense and thinner than high quality filters.

    Also FYI(For your information) WIX Standard O.E. cabin filters only costs around P350 for vehicles like Vios, Innova, Fortuner, Hilux & etc... up to Subaru models around P900.
    You might be buying China filters for similar or more than that amount because auto shops that sell generic China tend to mark-up their dirt cheap products to around 400 pesos to 850 pesos because they are unscrupulous types of merchants.

    The usual tagaan and low quality shops are unlike the carefully chosen WIX authorized dealers which tend to be more on providing quality service, continuous long term business(Loyal clients) and tend to follow SRP(Suggested retail prices) formulated by reputable suppliers that handle well known brands.

    Again I'm not here to criticize or provoke people with their hearsay's beliefs, I'm here to educate people who loves cars and normal car owners here more on proper, actual, accurate & well documented facts and figures.

    Your statement is also wrong for latest car models that have no cabin filters. I don't know where you are getting your unverified information from.
    C02 molecular bond is a millionth of a micron and your best cabin filter in the world could go only a tenth of a micron, hence carbon dioxide poisoning from not re-circulating or opening the car doors to vent or renew oxygen is more fatal than the larger pollutants.

    Try to get soo clean then expose yourself to the naturally polluted environment, see how your body reacts. Immunity comes from infection or exposing from pollutants for the body to react build immunity/fight naturally. Antiasthma meds are also strain of pollutants introduced little-by-little to the body to make the immune system. So my point is, its not good always to be soo clean.

    No need to re-educate how AC works, because i repair them as an enthusiast. The best AC system is located in the space station where scrubbers are used to recycle air, its not an ordinary paper element filter. There are vehicles that came out from the plant that does not have cabin filters because its an optional thing for some regions.

    I am using Sakura Indonesia BTW cheaper than Wix, no need to worry I'm anti China.

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    #546
    Quote Originally Posted by 12vdc View Post
    You should be using hepa filter then, those with carbon activation and ionizer.

    iL pass with being meticulous on cabin filters as my environment is not so polluted. Il just replace them once a year with the cheapest i could find.

    I bet one could die first from inhaling the accumulated carbon dioxide from own breathing because of not opening the car than the toxins from opening the windows in the gas station.

    Also being so much air-clean could weaken the immune system from allergens.

    I'm wearing surgical mask anyway while driving, its the new normal ih.
    Your surgical mask actually doesn't do anything against fine dust, particulate matter of 2.5 and below and other harmful matters. Even if you disregard pollen as a small matter, but for people that are sensitive or with asthma or sinusitis or gets easily attack by allergic rhinitis is a big deal since it could lead to sore throat and continuous intake of antihistamines, decongestant and antibiotics which is harmful to the body since your body will develop resistance to those drugs and in the future you would need higher dosage. My wife is actually a doctor in Otorhinolaryngology or layman's term ENT(Ear, Nose & Throat) and she is like me a car guy/gal.

    Surgical mask are not effective in filtering out dust, particulate matter and etc... the effective mask are N95 & respirators like 3M, Honeywell & etc...

    675-image-3833-1-17-20200426.jpg

    Again meron kasi tayong practice dito sa Pilipinas na actually mali.

    "Kung ano ang nakasanayan yun nalang ang susundin." - this statement is very wrong

    Kung ano man nakasanayan ng isang tao doesn't mean na tama.

    May ibang maka lumang mekaniko na sinasabi na wala daw kwenta ang thermostat kaya kapag nasisira tinatapon nalang nila, alam mo ano reason? Kasi nakasanayan na nila daw ang reason and wala naman daw problema.

    The world is constantly changing you must also update your knowledge in the present time, global warming is real and so is the pollution clouding the world, you can't see it with your eyes but if nasa province ka or wherever place you are try my advice lumabas ka ng bahay mo sa gabi at gumamit ka ng high powered or high lumens flashlight itapat mo sa langit makikita mo kung gaano kaalikabok or kadumi ang lugar mo.

    Fenix USA high powered flashlights
    Welcome to Fenix(R) | Official USA Site | Brightest Flashlights & Headlamps

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    #547
    Quote Originally Posted by JapanABC View Post
    Carbon dioxide is not the only element you should be afraid of inhaling especially if you are in a place where old jeepneys, AUVs such as Tamarraw FX, Revo, Adventure, Crosswind & etc..., buses and commercial van like L300 and trucks that are running in your area you might not see it with your naked eye but it will adversely affect your health.

    Also if what you say is true, then why do cabin filters get this dirty? Can you explain your point further? If basically only recirculated air in the cabin is so clean?
    If you are putting a generic China made filter then you are risking your health to particulate matter that is unseen to the eye.
    Allergens are not the main point of negative effects when using a cabin filter, that is where you are wrong. That is only an add-on feature from the cabin filter.
    The main point of the cabin filter is to clear toxic pollutants from the atmosphere since your immune system does not develop anti-bodies versus toxic pollutants.

    I think you need to get re-educated on how an aircon cabin(inside of a vehicle) filter works.

    Doesn't mean that you are using the re-circulation that polluted air doesn't go inside the vehicle's interior/cabin I think you have a wrong idea or view on how the cars' air-con system works.
    I'm here to tell you that you need to study and research how the AC system works in a vehicle. Polluted air enters through the ventilation system or the air-conditioning system.
    Also generic China cabin filters has less fibers inside compared to high quality filters like Mann+Hummel & WIX brands, means less dust and pollutants are being trapped by the cabin filters since it is less dense and thinner than high quality filters.

    Also FYI(For your information)
    WIX Standard O.E. cabin filters only costs around P380 for vehicles like Vios, Innova, Hilux, Fortuner & etc... up to Subaru models roughly around P900.
    JS Asakashi Standard filters only costs around P300 for vehicles like Vios, Innova, Hilux, Fortuner & etc... up to Subaru models roughly around P600

    You might be buying China filters for similar or more than that amount because auto shops that sell generic China tend to mark-up their dirt cheap products to around 350 pesos to 850 pesos because they are unscrupulous types of merchants.

    The usual tagaan and low quality tindahan/ retail shops are unlike the carefully chosen WIX or JS Asakashi authorized dealers which tend to be more on providing quality service, continuous long term business(Loyal clients) and tend to follow SRP(Suggested retail prices) formulated by reputable suppliers that handle well known brands.

    According to the shops that are authorized dealers of either WIX or JS Asakashi is that they were chosen because they would agree and conform to the distributor's policies like "NO ONE TIME BIG TIME SALE" type of selling, unlike those engage in selling low value and low quality imbento brands exactly like Circuit brand or similar with CD-R King type of brandings.

    Again I'm not here to criticize or provoke people with their hearsay's beliefs, I'm here to educate people who loves cars and normal car owners here more on proper, actual, accurate & well documented facts and figures.

    Your statement is also wrong for latest car models that have no cabin filters. I don't know where you are getting your unverified information from.

    All latest car models except Suzuki cheaper models starting from 2003~UP have cabin filters
    Toyota Wigo, Yaris, Vios, Corolla Altis, Camry, 86, GR Supra, Avanza(Rebadge Daihatsu), Innova, Hilux, Hiace, Previa, Alphard, Rush(Rebadge Daihatsu), Rav4, Fortuner, FJ Cruiser, Landcruiser Prado & Landcruiser
    Mitsubishi Mirage hatchback, Mirage G4, Lancer, Strada, Xpander, ASX, Outlander, Montero Sport & Pajero
    Nissan Almera, Sylphy, Teana, 370z, GT-R, Navara NP300, Urvan NV350, Juke, X-Trail, Terra and Patrol Royale
    Hyundai Eon, Accent hatchback, Veloster, Ioniq, Reina, Accent sedan, Elantra, Grand Starex, H350, Kona, Tucson, Santa Fe & Palisade
    Suzuki Higher end models like Swift, Vitara, Grand Vitara XL-7 & etc...
    Ford Fiesta, Mustang, Ecosport, Ranger, F-150, Transit, Everest, Explorer & Expedition
    Honda Brio hatchback, Jazz, Brio Amaze, City, Civic, Accord, Legend, Mobilio, BR-V, HR-V, CR-V & Pilot
    Isuzu D-Max & Mu-X
    KIA Picanto, Rio, Soluto, Forte, Stinger, Grand Carnival, Seltos, Sportage & Sorento

    So on and so forth
    Chevrolet
    Subaru
    Mazda
    BMW
    Mercedez Benz
    Bentley
    Audi
    Porsche
    Lamborghini
    Lexus
    Volkswagen
    Dodge
    Jeep
    RAM
    Peugeot
    Land Rover
    Jaguar
    Volvo
    Mini Cooper
    Ssangyong
    Aston Martin

    Even China and India car manufacturer brands have cabin air filters, jeeze.
    MG
    BAIC
    GAC
    Geely
    JAC
    Tata


    Check the link below:
    Mann+Hummel Cabin Filters
    WIX Cabin Filters




    Attachment 36913
    Attachment 36913
    just as an aside. mitsubishi motors philippines cheaped out at least on our previous 2012 Montero. Walang cabin filter. may provision na lagayan at sealed pero you have to provide and put in your own.

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    #548
    Quote Originally Posted by babkalakal View Post
    just as an aside. mitsubishi motors philippines cheaped out at least on our previous 2012 Montero. Walang cabin filter. may provision na lagayan at sealed pero you have to provide and put in your own.
    Toyota, on the other hand, included the cabin filter. At least for the 2019 model.

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    #549
    Quote Originally Posted by JapanABC View Post
    Your surgical mask actually doesn't do anything against fine dust, particulate matter of 2.5 and below and other harmful matters. Even if you disregard pollen as a small matter, but for people that are sensitive or with asthma or sinusitis or gets easily attack by allergic rhinitis is a big deal since it could lead to sore throat and continuous intake of antihistamines, decongestant and antibiotics which is harmful to the body since your body will develop resistance to those drugs and in the future you would need higher dosage. My wife is actually a doctor in Otorhinolaryngology or layman's term ENT(Ear, Nose & Throat) and she is like me a car guy/gal.

    Surgical mask are not effective in filtering out dust, particulate matter and etc... the effective mask are N95 & respirators like 3M, Honeywell & etc...

    675-image-3833-1-17-20200426.jpg

    Again meron kasi tayong practice dito sa Pilipinas na actually mali.

    "Kung ano ang nakasanayan yun nalang ang susundin." - this statement is very wrong

    Kung ano man nakasanayan ng isang tao doesn't mean na tama.

    May ibang maka lumang mekaniko na sinasabi na wala daw kwenta ang thermostat kaya kapag nasisira tinatapon nalang nila, alam mo ano reason? Kasi nakasanayan na nila daw ang reason and wala naman daw problema.

    The world is constantly changing you must also update your knowledge in the present time, global warming is real and so is the pollution clouding the world, you can't see it with your eyes but if nasa province ka or wherever place you are try my advice lumabas ka ng bahay mo sa gabi at gumamit ka ng high powered or high lumens flashlight itapat mo sa langit makikita mo kung gaano kaalikabok or kadumi ang lugar mo.

    Fenix USA high powered flashlights
    Welcome to Fenix(R) | Official USA Site | Brightest Flashlights & Headlamps
    Nice discussion here. Glad to have that flashlight link. I wish old members like you will return and share their experience and knowledge.

    A great addition to our experts, like a CoViD 19 expert, Taal Volcano expert, love expert, political expert, fitness expert, and even a futuristic expert!

    Speaking of which, is he still around?
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    To stay relevant, do you have a link for official stores of cabin filters, air filters, and oil filters?

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    #550
    Quote Originally Posted by 12vdc View Post
    C02 molecular bond is a millionth of a micron and your best cabin filter in the world could go only a tenth of a micron, hence carbon dioxide poisoning from not re-circulating or opening the car doors to vent or renew oxygen is more fatal than the larger pollutants.

    Try to get soo clean then expose yourself to the naturally polluted environment, see how your body reacts. Immunity comes from infection or exposing from pollutants for the body to react build immunity/fight naturally. Antiasthma meds are also strain of pollutants introduced little-by-little to the body to make the immune system. So my point is, its not good always to be soo clean.

    No need to re-educate how AC works, because i repair them as an enthusiast. The best AC system is located in the space station where scrubbers are used to recycle air, its not an ordinary paper element filter. There are vehicles that came out from the plant that does not have cabin filters because its an optional thing for some regions.

    I am using Sakura Indonesia BTW cheaper than Wix, no need to worry I'm anti China.
    For what vehicle model are you using the Sakura cabin filter? Most of the cars now that I mentioned from my previous post has original factory built in cabin filter and casing.
    How much does the Sakura Indonesia cost? Since WIX is either made in USA, Poland, South Korea, Ukraine, Czech Republic & etc...
    Also if you put the Sakura, WIX and etc... side by side then using an electric portable microscopic magnifier you can see the difference of the synthetic fibers inside the filter.

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    #551
    my beef w/ disposable filters is that they're disposable.

    you can just imagine the volume of garbage these kind of filtration stuff generate year in and year out.

    i'm not a tree hugger per se naman but anyone who has seen or been in the vicinity of landfills, most likely know what i'm getting at. those plastic frames from discarded air filters will take eons to degrade - especially when you take in to consideration that the words global warming and pollution were already mentioned in a previous post. what's worse is if these plasticky stuff found their way to our oceans and rivers. paktay na.

    as for oil filters, at least the aluminum used in them are recyclable like their paper like elements - that's what i reckon anyway. of course, i don't know if, here in the country, they are indeed being recycled.

    i know it sounds corny but i'm all for reusing and recycling whenever possible. kawawa naman pinas at mga succeeding generations kung puro basura na lang ang makikita nila.
    Last edited by baludoy; July 1st, 2020 at 07:54 PM.

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    #552
    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy View Post
    my beef w/ disposable filters is that they're disposable.

    you can just imagine the volume of garbage these kind of filtration stuff generate year in and year out.

    i'm not a tree hugger per se naman but anyone who has seen or been in the vicinity of landfills, most likely know what i'm getting at. those plastic frames from discarded air filters will take eons to degrade - especially when you take in to consideration that the words global warming and pollution were already mentioned in a previous post. what's worse if these plasticky stuff found their way to our oceans and rivers. paktay na.

    as for oil filters, at least the aluminum used in them are recyclable like their paper like elements - at least that's what i reckon. of course, i don't know if, here in the country, they are indeed being recycled.

    i know it sounds corny but i'm all for reusing and recycling whenever possible. kawawa naman pinas at mga succeeding generation kung puro basura na lang ang makikita nila.
    Same sentiments, that is why I use K&N engine filter para reusable. Oil filter at fuel filter no choice eh, disposable talaga. Kaya kung meron lang long drain interval filter yun din bibilhin ko.

    I even tested how long a Vic fuel filter will be able to be used before engine starts stalling and it was around 17,000kms or so, so kahit 10,000kms bago magpalit ng fuel filter, it is still safe...yan na tuloy ginagawa ko. Just buy a good brand at least. I think even 15,000kms for fuel filter would be okay as long as hindi madumi fuel sa area/location mo like in the cities.

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    #553
    Spin-on tin-can filters are being replaced by cartridge filters for environmental friendly reason, but they still end up as mixed-waste(paper/plastic/oil) in the landfill. Ultimate solution is to go full electric, but then again the carbon footprint and battery disposal becomes the next argument.

    Disposable filters has low efficiency. Semi-clogged filters offers much better efficiency, you just have to be wary of the added air resistance.-read it somewhere in CumminsFiltration site.

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    #554
    Quote Originally Posted by JapanABC View Post
    Your surgical mask actually doesn't do anything against fine dust, particulate matter of 2.5 and below and other harmful matters. Even if you disregard pollen as a small matter, but for people that are sensitive or with asthma or sinusitis or gets easily attack by allergic rhinitis is a big deal since it could lead to sore throat and continuous intake of antihistamines, decongestant and antibiotics which is harmful to the body since your body will develop resistance to those drugs and in the future you would need higher dosage. My wife is actually a doctor in Otorhinolaryngology or layman's term ENT(Ear, Nose & Throat) and she is like me a car guy/gal.

    Surgical mask are not effective in filtering out dust, particulate matter and etc... the effective mask are N95 & respirators like 3M, Honeywell & etc...

    675-image-3833-1-17-20200426.jpg

    Again meron kasi tayong practice dito sa Pilipinas na actually mali.

    "Kung ano ang nakasanayan yun nalang ang susundin." - this statement is very wrong

    Kung ano man nakasanayan ng isang tao doesn't mean na tama.

    May ibang maka lumang mekaniko na sinasabi na wala daw kwenta ang thermostat kaya kapag nasisira tinatapon nalang nila, alam mo ano reason? Kasi nakasanayan na nila daw ang reason and wala naman daw problema.

    The world is constantly changing you must also update your knowledge in the present time, global warming is real and so is the pollution clouding the world, you can't see it with your eyes but if nasa province ka or wherever place you are try my advice lumabas ka ng bahay mo sa gabi at gumamit ka ng high powered or high lumens flashlight itapat mo sa langit makikita mo kung gaano kaalikabok or kadumi ang lugar mo.

    Fenix USA high powered flashlights
    Welcome to Fenix(R) | Official USA Site | Brightest Flashlights & Headlamps
    Time has changed, Emission controls changed, pollution never changed. The jeepney drivers are still alive, Im still alive after inhaling those particulate matters.

    Your wife maybe an ENT doc but I myself was once an asthmatic patient. I took steroid plus some sort of dust inhaler. It functions as stimulant and make the immune system non-reactive to allergens/dust. Just look at the kids nowadays, mga hikain. konting dapo lang ng dumi dikit sa pores may rashes.konting usok, hika..that's because the body hasn't adapted to the dirty environment.

    Going back to the cabin filter. My opinion still goes that its just a cabin filter no big deal. I'm not going to die if i don't use one or use the cheapest one. Its not a soo critical part of the car that detriments my health. If so, it would take decades before I die or 5yrs before the evaporator aluminum craps out-by that time i would just have to replace the evaporator

    Please don't start with thermostat as its a different topic and veery far from what a cabin filter does. Your Fenix spot lamp is useful because the smog in the metro is very noticeable you could seldom see the stars, compare that in the province the skies are clearer. That smog also traps the heat and makes your night hotter aka greenhouse effect. Peace bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by 12vdc View Post
    Time has changed, Emission controls changed, pollution never changed. The jeepney drivers are still alive, Im still alive after inhaling those particulate matters.

    Your wife maybe an ENT doc but I myself was once an asthmatic patient. I took steroid plus some sort of dust inhaler. It functions as stimulant and make the immune system non-reactive to allergens/dust. Just look at the kids nowadays, mga hikain. konting dapo lang ng dumi dikit sa pores may rashes.konting usok, hika..that's because the body hasn't adapted to the dirty environment.

    Going back to the cabin filter. My opinion still goes that its just a cabin filter no big deal. I'm not going to die if i don't use one or use the cheapest one. Its not a soo critical part of the car that detriments my health. If so, it would take decades before I die or 5yrs before the evaporator aluminum craps out-by that time i would just have to replace the evaporator

    Please don't start with thermostat as its a different topic and veery far from what a cabin filter does. Your Fenix spot lamp is useful because the smog in the metro is very noticeable you could seldom see the stars, compare that in the province the skies are clearer. That smog also traps the heat and makes your night hotter aka greenhouse effect. Peace bro
    Yeah even my flashlights and other camping gear I buy is always the good stuff hehehe, Coleman & etc.... Fenix is actually one of the best brands of flashlights in the USA. I love buying high quality stuff which is the bang for the buck for me kasi less waste since the products lasts really for a long time. Pagdating sa health kasi I will never settle for less as health is wealth, it also depends din sa lifestlye if approximately lang ha without considering the accidents/misfortunes that might happen will really help prolong my life as long as I can, since doc si MISIS kailangan all caps kasi siya commander hehehe sabi niya using prescribed drugs can kill your liver or kidney depending on the drug type, which will cause long term side effects that will lead to kidney and liver diseases if you take those prescribed medicines madalas. So in order to prevent that from happening as much as possible I keep my self healthy through regular exercise(hindi intense like heavy weight lifting hehe), herbal drinks like boiled ginger tea with lemon and natural honey, ampalaya tea and other natural healthy fruits and herbs para to build my immune system through a healthier way from vitamins C, D, E and etc... Sabi nga ng mga doctors prevention is better than the cure. Even doctors pag dating sa sarili nila they don't take those medications if kaya as much as possible kasi alam nila long term side effects sa katawan, it might now show now or 2-3 years from now pero it will show after 15 years and above. Hindi kasi instant ang ibang diseases, like terminal diseases takes a long time to develop inside a body.

    Actually cabin filters are detrimental to the health because of the current situation of our environment it's getting more polluted by the day especially sa Southeast Asia like Thailand, Indonesia and the Philippines kasi diesel loving car market tayo. So more fine dust from diesel exhaust are clouding our skies. Car manufacturers engineers developed the cabin filter for a reason the same way the oil filters were developed by Purolator in the 1920s, there is a reason why they are developing such filters and other parts for newer car models since they developed them based on the current situation and the studied forecast ng pollution natin. Compared sa panahon ng lolo and tatay natin less human population mas nakikita pa nila blue skies pero sa panahon natin sobra na daming population and more population means more cars, trucks, buses, motorcycles, powerplants, factories & etc... is equals to more pollution.

    Actually I'm also using an app sa smartphone ko IQAir Air Visual app sa android and iphone it detects the air quality rating if it is healthy or not sa per city and province.
    Makikita mo sa ratings ng US Air Quality Index sa Marikina 60 US AQI rating ngayon, so doon palang moderate na ang air quality sa toxic pollution, considering walang masyadong sasakyan, trucks & etc... tumatakbo ngayon GCQ ahh, what more kung normal days for sure much worse ang air quality index.

    Peace bro, no friction hahaha just a healthy forums for all members to learn and share experiences ang Tsikot group.

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    P.S. brought the thermostat topic because was implying that it has its uses that why it was developed not because it is the same with cabin filter, but the thermostat was developed and is there for a reason and it is for engine thermal efficiency or in short it is made to protect the engine the same reason why the cabin filter was developed to protect the driver and passengers from contaminants going inside the cabin. You can watch the video of Mann+Hummel how it illustrates the air con and cabin filters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Same sentiments, that is why I use K&N engine filter para reusable. Oil filter at fuel filter no choice eh, disposable talaga. Kaya kung meron lang long drain interval filter yun din bibilhin ko.

    I even tested how long a Vic fuel filter will be able to be used before engine starts stalling and it was around 17,000kms or so, so kahit 10,000kms bago magpalit ng fuel filter, it is still safe...yan na tuloy ginagawa ko. Just buy a good brand at least. I think even 15,000kms for fuel filter would be okay as long as hindi madumi fuel sa area/location mo like in the cities.
    K&N is actually a bad choice for engine air filters. As from my previous post there is a youtube video where many OEM type filters were tested and K&N, K&N actually wasn't able to filter the contaminants as good as the other OEM type brands. Video link below for

    Which Car Air Filter is Best? Let's find out! Fram, K&N, Wix, Purolator, & AC Delco showdown

    Also don't worry about the media being used in making oil, fuel, transmission & air filters they are made up of cellulose media which is made from all sorts of plants, since all plant matter are made up of cellulose which is itself composed of lignin, a structural component, and monomer sugars such as hexose sugars, principally glucose and fructose but also pentose sugars (5 carbon atoms) such as xylose, arabinose or galactose among several others.

    Cellulose | Definition of Cellulose by Merriam-Webster)
    What is cellulose made up of? - Quora

    The element/media inside your oil, fuel, transmission and air filters are not made from trees as you think it is. Cabin filters naman are made up of synthetic type of media fibers which I will be closely studying which materials below is a description of the materials.

    The cabin air filter is a small pleated filter made of multi-fiber paper cotton or other engineered material. Before entering the passenger compartment, outside air is directed through this filter to trap the contaminants inside the filter and prevent them from entering the inside of your vehicle.

    How does a cabin air filter work?
    Clean air is essential to your vehicle running properly; your car’s engine air filter ensures that clean air reaches the engine. In the same way, your car’s ventilation system counts on the cabin air filter to keep a steady stream of clean air flowing.

    The cabin air filter keeps dust, dirt, pollen, bacteria and exhaust gases from entering the HVAC system of your car. It also prevents bugs, leaves and other debris from clogging up the system. Vital to clean air inside the car, the cabin air filter keeps the air inside the car fresh so you and your passengers can breathe easy – something you’ll appreciate all year long but especially during allergy season.

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    #557
    Quote Originally Posted by JapanABC View Post
    K&N is actually a bad choice for engine air filters. As from my previous post there is a youtube video where many OEM type filters were tested and K&N, K&N actually wasn't able to filter the contaminants as good as the other OEM type brands. Video link below for

    Which Car Air Filter is Best? Let's find out! Fram, K&N, Wix, Purolator, & AC Delco showdown

    Also don't worry about the media being used in making oil, fuel, transmission & air filters they are made up of cellulose media which is made from all sorts of plants, since all plant matter are made up of cellulose which is itself composed of lignin, a structural component, and monomer sugars such as hexose sugars, principally glucose and fructose but also pentose sugars (5 carbon atoms) such as xylose, arabinose or galactose among several others.

    Cellulose | Definition of Cellulose by Merriam-Webster)
    What is cellulose made up of? - Quora

    The element/media inside your oil, fuel, transmission and air filters are not made from trees as you think it is. Cabin filters naman are made up of synthetic type of media fibers which I will be closely studying which materials below is a description of the materials.

    The cabin air filter is a small pleated filter made of multi-fiber paper cotton or other engineered material. Before entering the passenger compartment, outside air is directed through this filter to trap the contaminants inside the filter and prevent them from entering the inside of your vehicle.

    How does a cabin air filter work?
    Clean air is essential to your vehicle running properly; your car’s engine air filter ensures that clean air reaches the engine. In the same way, your car’s ventilation system counts on the cabin air filter to keep a steady stream of clean air flowing.

    The cabin air filter keeps dust, dirt, pollen, bacteria and exhaust gases from entering the HVAC system of your car. It also prevents bugs, leaves and other debris from clogging up the system. Vital to clean air inside the car, the cabin air filter keeps the air inside the car fresh so you and your passengers can breathe easy – something you’ll appreciate all year long but especially during allergy season.
    Bakit marami parin hooked sa K&N? Marami rin nagttestify na okay yung product?


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    Quote Originally Posted by carwhacko View Post
    Bakit marami parin hooked sa K&N? Marami rin nagttestify na okay yung product?


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    I think with normal use or maski severe pa the normal life span ng vehicle wala pa obvious at noticeable negative effect ang inadequate filtration ng k&n at least to majority of users.Nabebenta na bago pa mag loko but to those mechanically inclined tulad nun na erode na turbo impeller blade ng nissan navara (hurricanr filter ata iyon) dito sa tsikot meron talaga detrimental effect though the severity varies greatly with usage.

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    #559
    Quote Originally Posted by babkalakal View Post
    I think with normal use or maski severe pa the normal life span ng vehicle wala pa obvious at noticeable negative effect ang inadequate filtration ng k&n at least to majority of users.Nabebenta na bago pa mag loko but to those mechanically inclined tulad nun na erode na turbo impeller blade ng nissan navara (hurricanr filter ata iyon) dito sa tsikot meron talaga detrimental effect though the severity varies greatly with usage.
    Agree on this one, plus K&N itself said that in the US, their products - once used - cannot be used by car manufacturers to void engine failure resulting from poor filtration.

    As US consumer laws are stricter compared to ours, I believe they won't make that claim unless somehow they now that the engines can tolerate the particles that do pass from their filters. A way of saying the pros outweighs the cons. The savings and unnecessary waste are better for me in the end.

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    Sa mga mahilig mag tune ng kanilang desels



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