Best Oil/Fuel Filters

[jaggerx3]

Sa 4D56 and 4M40, stock requirement ng Mitsu is double core or bypass filtration na for other manufacturers, single filtration media lang requirement. So using the double core, parang nag upgrade ka ng filter
Ganito filter ng Vic
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Ganito Bosch made in Korea (phased out na ito)
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Ganito na Bosch made in Indonesia
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It was discussed previously na stacking disc combo filter has better filtration. Hindi ko alam if true or not. Now made in Vietnam na yata Bosch e. Which one is better? You be the judge


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Is that the same as the Vic i ordered you?

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[JapanABC]

We can check also Nippon Micro's build quality.

[mokong22]

Pag tignan mo mga pics sa net mas marami pang pleats ang vic compared sa mga sikat na oil filter dito sa forum. Tagal ko ng gumagamit vic wala pa naman nag ka problem. Yung ten wheeler truck(hauler) sakura or daiwa oil filter lang ginagamit ko umabot ng 1million kms. Natakbo nya bago na overhaul

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[JapanABC]

Pag tignan mo mga pics sa net mas marami pang pleats ang vic compared sa mga sikat na oil filter dito sa forum. Tagal ko ng gumagamit vic wala pa naman nag ka problem. Yung ten wheeler truck(hauler) sakura or daiwa oil filter lang ginagamit ko umabot ng 1million kms. Natakbo nya bago na overhaul

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Doesn't mean na masmarami pleats ng filter ibig sabihin mas maganda, pano kung hindi maganda yung pagka compose ng filter material pero pinadami lang niya para mukhang maganda bali quantity over quality sort of aspect pero manipis naman yung paper filter. DAIWA is locally made in the Philippines by a Singaporean national, then SAKURA is manufactured in Indonesia by ADR group of companies.

[JapanABC]

Pag tignan mo mga pics sa net mas marami pang pleats ang vic compared sa mga sikat na oil filter dito sa forum. Tagal ko ng gumagamit vic wala pa naman nag ka problem. Yung ten wheeler truck(hauler) sakura or daiwa oil filter lang ginagamit ko umabot ng 1million kms. Natakbo nya bago na overhaul

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Also if sobrang dami namang pleats sobrang sikip na sa loob ng filter partly mahihirapan narin dumaloy yung oil.

[JapanABC]

Pag tignan mo mga pics sa net mas marami pang pleats ang vic compared sa mga sikat na oil filter dito sa forum. Tagal ko ng gumagamit vic wala pa naman nag ka problem. Yung ten wheeler truck(hauler) sakura or daiwa oil filter lang ginagamit ko umabot ng 1million kms. Natakbo nya bago na overhaul

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Probably the most important aspect here is the element surface area. This helps determine the amount of filter media that is available to trap particles. Cellulose media (basically paper) can trap fewer particles and can flow less oil per square inch because there are fewer passages through it. Synthetic media has more passages and can trap more particles and flow more oil than cellulose per square inch. For the same type of media, the smaller the area, the sooner the filter will become plugged and will end up bypassing much of the oil instead of filtering it. Some filters use a cellulose/synthetic blend, so a direct comparison is not possible. More pleats in the element do not necessarily mean more surface area (as you will soon see). In fact, too many pleats can end up restricting the flow too much because there is not enough space between them to allow oil to flow. Most of the cheaper filters use a mix that is mostly cellulose and/or cotton. Some of the better filters use synthetics or synthetic blends.

[JapanABC]

"Vic filter meanwhile surpasses the Replacement “Mazda” filter only in the area of the anti-drain-back diaphragm. The Vic variant’s filter-element-assembly cannot be considered to have the same quality as that of the OEM filter because of the inadequate attention given to the spacing of the pleats of the filter element, which as we’ve learned may have ramifications on oil flow. Finally, the by-pass valve on the Vic filter has the same inferior quality as that of the Replacement filter." - From an independent testing of another person.

Sorry guys but this are already facts and statistics. Not just from a word of mouth but it is done in a scientific procedure.

Please see link attached since this is from MIATA club
Oil Filter Study

I hope this can be an eye opener for you guys buying VIC brand filter.

[JapanABC]

This is the link for testing by Miata Club Philippines for the various brands of filter

------> Oil Filter Study or 404 Not Found. htm

[JapanABC]

VIC overall test result by the Finnish car magazine Tuulilasi

LINK-----> Oil filter test results!

[mokong22]

Also if sobrang dami namang pleats sobrang sikip na sa loob ng filter partly mahihirapan narin dumaloy yung oil.

sabi kasi dito sir ng mga experts the more pleats the better. Pag tignan mo pleats ng vic mas madami sya compare baldwin and mas refine pa yung pleats nya

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[crazy_boy]

Is that the same as the Vic i ordered you?

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Yes sir. Same filter


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[mokong22]

Di ba walang bye pass ang vic?

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[JapanABC]

sabi kasi dito sir ng mga experts the more pleats the better. Pag tignan mo pleats ng vic mas madami sya compare baldwin and mas refine pa yung pleats nya

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Again I repeat if kasing hina ng filter media mo ang tissue paper or if hindi gaano kaganda ang quality ng construction ng cellulose media kahit gaano pa kadaming pleats ng filter mo kahit umabot pa ng 100+ pleats the end results will still be the same because of the fiber built of the cellulose is not good the contaminants will still pass through since micrometers na sizes ng particles ang pinaguusapan natin.

Please check the links that are confirmed tested by experts.
A perfunctory inspection may lead one to believe that the Vic filter would be the best in this aspect since it has the tightest spacing between pleats and hence, it should be have a longer filter medium and should consequently also have the greatest filter area. However, more pleats in the element do not necessarily mean more surface area. In fact, too many pleats tightly spaced can end up restricting the flow of oil through those tightly spaced pleats because of insufficient space between the pleats for oil to flow.

I had hoped that one of the lower priced filters would come close to the quality of the construction and materials of the OEM filter, but neither of them can even approximate it. The Replacement filter fails with the inferior quality of its anti-drain-back diaphragm, the poor construction of its filter-element-assembly, the grossly insufficient filter medium, and the inferior design of its by-pass valve; the Ginza Japan filter is not much better than the Replacement “Mazda” filter; the Vic filter meanwhile surpasses the Replacement “Mazda” filter only in the area of the anti-drain-back diaphragm. The Vic variant’s filter-element-assembly cannot be considered to have the same quality as that of the OEM filter because of the inadequate attention given to the spacing of the pleats of the filter element, which as we’ve learned may have ramifications on oil flow. Finally, the by-pass valve on the Vic filter has the same inferior quality as that of the Replacement filter; the Bosch filter’s filter medium is a bit smaller than that of the OEM filter and that of the Vic filter, however it’s pleat spacing is regular and not as closely packed together thus allowing a smooth flow of oil, however, there was excess glue spattered in some of areas of the filter which made appear of low quality. Nonetheless, it remains to be seen how this excess glue can affect performance. The two Honda filters were of acceptable quality with the OEM Honda filter medium having even better quality than that of the Mazda OEM filter. The quality of the Power Long filter is also acceptable, however, a determination cannot be made as to the filtering ability of the stainless steel mesh medium without testing.

By Tuulilasi Finnish Car Magazine Link 1 ------> Oil filter test results!

By Miata Club Philippines President Link 2 ------> Oil Filter Study

[JapanABC]

sabi kasi dito sir ng mga experts the more pleats the better. Pag tignan mo pleats ng vic mas madami sya compare baldwin and mas refine pa yung pleats nya

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Chaka how do you know na experts yung mga nagsabi the more paper pleats the better? In the 1st place dvldoc was quoted sa 1st page of this thread that
"VIC- Very cheaply made, restrictive bypass valve, poor filter media" -dvldoc

[JapanABC]

mga sir any feedback po sa maruzen fuel filter?. magkano po kuha niyo sa bosch oil filter? may nabili ako 130 pesos, made in vietnam. orig ba un?. 2000 civic. thanks.

Nako never use MARUZEN brand of filters they are a house brand of a trading company in the Philippines which targets the lowest segment of CLASS D & E consumers. CIRCUIT and MARUZEN are the trademark of the said trading company which outsourced its parts mostly from China, maraming complain pagdating sa two brands that I've mentioned but sad to say their target is yung masa.

[miguel20]

How about Mann, Baldwin?

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[Ry_Tower]

Nako never use MARUZEN brand of filters they are a house brand of a trading company in the Philippines which targets the lowest segment of CLASS D & E consumers. CIRCUIT and MARUZEN are the trademark of the said trading company which outsourced its parts mostly from China, maraming complain pagdating sa two brands that I've mentioned but sad to say their target is yung masa.

Kind of off topic but nevertheless.

Mir may Circuit na wiper blades na parang Japann quality din. Comparable with bosch counterpart na mga P100+ per piece. Ibang company kaya may gawa nito? I'll take a picture. Sometime red sometimes blue with transparent part plastic ang packaging nila. But defintely not hise china type na brown recycled paper yung back then clear plastic yung front nang package.

[Ry_Tower]

Correction lang po pala, *Sir yung sa taas, not Mr. hehe

[JapanABC]

Kind of off topic but nevertheless.

Mir may Circuit na wiper blades na parang Japann quality din. Comparable with bosch counterpart na mga P100+ per piece. Ibang company kaya may gawa nito? I'll take a picture. Sometime red sometimes blue with transparent part plastic ang packaging nila. But defintely not hise china type na brown recycled paper yung back then clear plastic yung front nang package.

Yes medyo off topic na, sorry sir but kilala ko po yung trading company na nagiimport ng Circuit products, and CIRCUIT products are not I REPEAT are not quality products their target market is the class C, D & E market those who can afford cheap products, also alam na alam yan ng lahat ng automotive wholesale & retail shops sa buong Pilipinas na almost lahat ng products ng CIRUIT & MARUZEN brand ay China substandard quality CIRCUIT has products ranging from wiper blades, halogen bulb, auto bulb, relays, horns, ic regulator, radiator cap, ignition coils, fuses, gauges, pcv valve, wiper arm, wiper motor, and many many more which they just import from various factories from China with the lowest possible price and then they repack the product here in the Philippines with Circuit packaging, then this trading company's 2nd brand is MARUZEN which has horns, wiper blade, filters, fuel pump, and etc... the circuit wiper blade only lasts 3-4 months while Japanese brands such as NWB, DENSO, MARUENU & etc... last 1 year or more. If you want facts you could survey the whole banawe area about the CIRCUIT products and they will tell you that these products are targeted to end consumers that prefer to buy cheap products. Also CIRCUIT brand products never mention where the country of origin it is made in and that they just put a fake Japanese address which when you check google or any search engine will end up showing nothing. Hopes this helps.

[JapanABC]

Kind of off topic but nevertheless.

Mir may Circuit na wiper blades na parang Japann quality din. Comparable with bosch counterpart na mga P100+ per piece. Ibang company kaya may gawa nito? I'll take a picture. Sometime red sometimes blue with transparent part plastic ang packaging nila. But defintely not hise china type na brown recycled paper yung back then clear plastic yung front nang package.

And please take note sir, isa lang pong company ang may rights to sell CIRCUIT and MARUZEN brand since pina trademark niya ang logo and brand name dito sa Philippines, the rest are resellers and retailers.