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    #21
    battery and alternator lang yan

    di naman kailangan ng maraming kaartehan

    kung ang na-Ondoy nga na EFI na sasakyan napapatakbo uli di kailangan ng repair manual

    kasimpleng battery at alternator pa

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    just hope the guesses are right. without proper diagnoses, it's like driving blindfolded. good luck

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    For safety reasons, always remove first the negative side of the battery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cathy_for_you View Post
    My car is a 1996 Corolla GLi. The car is seldom used and the battery has been drained and recharged several times already since I got it in 2009. The last time the battery was recharged was about a month or two ago. Since then the car gets started for about 5 minutes daily. However during the past few days, the battery indicator would still light up even when the car is started. Now I am not sure if I only need to buy a new battery or there could be a deeper problem? The Motolite guy mentioned that there is ground(?) in the battery, I am not sure if I remember it correctly though. I should have the alternator checked daw.

    In 2011, I already had the distributor assembly replaced at Tower of David. My car also has an AC problem, it stops blowing cold air in slow traffic or idling. But when it's running fast, it works just fine. There are times when the AC is really cold but often times it's almost just fan. I already had the compressor replaced (original Denso) in 2008 and it cost me 15k!!! I am not sure if all these problems are connected.

    Please help me identify my car's problem as I want to have an idea on what needs to get fixed. Also, does anyone know the new contact number of Tower of David? They moved their shop na kasi in Pasong Tamo. I would also appreciate other shop recommendations in Makati or Paranaque area. Thanks!
    sis. Cathy, di ka ba pwede lumayo like Paranaque or Marikina area, may i-rerecommend ako sayong magaling na shop dun..Tricked Out Autoworks.

    yung sa aircon issue, yung evaporator kasi ng mga corolla dito sa Pilipinas is maliit compared to those corolla in other countries kaya kahit magpalit ka ng compressor, wala pa rin kwenta..read this for more info....sa ngayon may specific upgrade/conversion ang ginagwa para mas maging malamig ang aircon ng mga AE models...kahit tanghaling tapat


    https://www.facebook.com/notes/aenin...66864696793237

    (c) raybrig / tricked out autoworks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cathy_for_you View Post
    My car is a 1996 Corolla GLi. The car is seldom used and the battery has been drained and recharged several times already since I got it in 2009. The last time the battery was recharged was about a month or two ago. Since then the car gets started for about 5 minutes daily. However during the past few days, the battery indicator would still light up even when the car is started. Now I am not sure if I only need to buy a new battery or there could be a deeper problem? The Motolite guy mentioned that there is ground(?) in the battery, I am not sure if I remember it correctly though. I should have the alternator checked daw.

    In 2011, I already had the distributor assembly replaced at Tower of David. My car also has an AC problem, it stops blowing cold air in slow traffic or idling. But when it's running fast, it works just fine. There are times when the AC is really cold but often times it's almost just fan. I already had the compressor replaced (original Denso) in 2008 and it cost me 15k!!! I am not sure if all these problems are connected.

    Please help me identify my car's problem as I want to have an idea on what needs to get fixed. Also, does anyone know the new contact number of Tower of David? They moved their shop na kasi in Pasong Tamo. I would also appreciate other shop recommendations in Makati or Paranaque area. Thanks!
    Batteries stored for a long time without being disconnected from the car, become heavily drained since the electrical consumers of the vehicle still rely on the battery for power. That is why it is advisable that when the vehicle is not used for a (long) period of time, the battery should be disconnected (don't ask me how I know). When batteries are fully drained (zero charge) some of them may not come back to life again, kahit anong re-charge ang gagawin mo. The battery plates are made of a compressed metal substance that over time crumbles. These metal particles then settle below the battery floor, when it becomes thick enough, then there is "grounding" (what the motolite guy said). Wherein one battery cell, grounds itself to the adjacent cell. When this occurs, you must replace your battery. Attached is a guide on what I am talking about, topic is on page 3 - 4. Sorry for the technical jargon, but I hope you get what I mean.

    http://www.biddlemegger.com/biddle/Battery_AG.pdf

    Charging light, it may be just a loose alternator belt, of its the alternator itself. Best thing to do is buy a new battery and bring the car to an electrical shop for diagnosis. My gut feel is that the alternator belt is just loose.

    Aircon, in old cars, there is no leakproof/perfect system. I should know about that since I have 4 old cars. The AC system has rubber hoses, rubber seals, O-rings, etc. All of which deteriorate over a period of time, hence there are always minute leaks. The only way to remedy this is to replace all rubber hoses and seals, which may come with an expensive repair bill, or have the shop top-up your freon. Small leaks will always be there, no matter what. But it can be a year or two years before you will "feel" that your freon is a bit low again.

    I have a suki aircon shop in the corner of Arnaiz ave and Osmena highway in Bangkal, Makati. The name of the shop is Kristal Aire, its located along the service road, near Makati Cars (show room ng mga rubber boats/Boston whalers). Look for Pocholo, the son of the owner. He has done repair work for all my cars, cleaning, conversion, charging, etc. and I am very satisfied with it. Reasonable prices too.

    See here: KRISTAL AIRE AIRCONDITIONING SERVICES

    Goodluck
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrQ5 View Post
    actually ginagawa ng mga mekaniko yan kaya lang di safe, be prepare sa arcing at electrical surge sa electronic components.
    I'll let the mechanics do it. Takot pa naman ako sa ground. Na ground na kasi ako dati

    Dalhin ko muna battery sa shop and they would be able to tell kung pwede pa battery ko? Kilala na nga nila ako dun kasi parati ako parecharge ng battery e

    I hope it's just the battery pero ang weird lang na kahit naka start yung car naka red pa dun yung battery indicator
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    Quote Originally Posted by zap.FREEDOM View Post
    sis. Cathy, di ka ba pwede lumayo like Paranaque or Marikina area, may i-rerecommend ako sayong magaling na shop dun..Tricked Out Autoworks.

    yung sa aircon issue, yung evaporator kasi ng mga corolla dito sa Pilipinas is maliit compared to those corolla in other countries kaya kahit magpalit ka ng compressor, wala pa rin kwenta..read this for more info....sa ngayon may specific upgrade/conversion ang ginagwa para mas maging malamig ang aircon ng mga AE models...kahit tanghaling tapat


    https://www.facebook.com/notes/aenin...66864696793237

    (c) raybrig / tricked out autoworks

    I can go to Paranaque. Sige check ko yan.

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    ^

    Cat, kung lagi ka nag rerecharge ibig sabihin deads na baterya mo, you should have it replace na.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jick.cejoco View Post
    sir, never disconnect the battery with the engine running or the ignition switch on correct me if i'm wrong, but i have never seen or read a repair manual instructing you to disconnect an electrical circuit that is live
    +1 ... Never do that in IC charging systems, You will end up frying the one way diodes of the alternator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jick.cejoco View Post

    matagal nang mali yan

    imagine your car having a lot of computers and memory, not all cars are sarao
    Sus parang CASA. X-Trail sasakyan ko, di pa naman nasira dahil sa pag tangal ng battery habang umaandar.

    My alternator conked out three months ago. Pinabaklas ko at putol na wire lang ang problema sa loob so the my trusted electrician soldered it and replaced the bearing and whala!! 900 lang gastos ko.

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    bring the car to a battery shop

    they'll use a hydrometer to check the electrolyte. they'll tell you kung sira na ang battery

    they can also determine kung di kumakarga ang alternator

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    I can bring the battery but I can't bring the car. Wala akong jumper cable (naalala ko si lsb ) Pwede ko rin i push start worst case scenario...

    If this ends up costing a lot of money,I am sure my Mom will make me sumbat that I should have sold the car a long time ago. Worse she might force me to replace it now with a Vios

    Nakakatakot kasi yung umaandar na yung mga indicator naka red pa rin Araw araw naman pinapa andar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cathy_for_you View Post
    If this ends up costing a lot of money,I am sure my Mom will make me sumbat that I should have sold the car a long time ago. Worse she might force me to replace it now with a Vios

    Nakakatakot kasi yung umaandar na yung mga indicator naka red pa rin Araw araw naman pinapa andar
    If it is the idiot lamp,- then the alternator is not charging the battery (it is basically an ammeter)....

    The trouble with a battery is that it appears to be charging, and yet, not retaining the charge....

    Sis,- there are some nice battery monitors that you can buy from Concorde,- you can just plug it in your cigarette lighter port and it will tell you the voltage across your battery more or less through LED... I'll post a couple of pics... Cost is about P350

    There is a digital variant,- cost is about P995 (seen some at True Value ATC)....

    I have one actually in my car,- i.e, if you are near Taguig (mahirap side)....

    In conjunction with your ammeter(idiot lamp)- perfect monitor of your battery and alternator.

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    don't let auto shops/mechanics mystify you with mumbo jumbo and fancy equipment

    they do that to make you think fixing your car is complicated so they can charge you more

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    battery and alternator lang yan

    di naman kailangan ng maraming kaartehan

    kung ang na-Ondoy nga na EFI na sasakyan napapatakbo uli di kailangan ng repair manual

    kasimpleng battery at alternator pa
    Amen.

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    This is the digital variant... Normally, when you are running the car with aircon and headlights, it should read 13V+ and you should have a healthy and robust setup



    This is more or less the LED variant. Locally, a variant has 4 green LEDs and 1 red LED... If one green LED is on, your voltage is at least 10.5V
    two green LEDs : at least 11.5V
    three green LEDs : at least 12.5V
    four green LEDs : at least 13.5V

    You figure.

    Another variant is a combination of red and green and yellow LEDs with various voltage equivalents.

    All can be plugged in to your lighter interface. All our rides have one of these 3 variants.

    Again,- in conjunction with your ammeter (idiot lamp monitor for battery charging),- you have an effective monitor for your battery and alternator... voltage + current,- they should correlate....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cathy_for_you View Post
    I can bring the battery but I can't bring the car. Wala akong jumper cable (naalala ko si lsb ) Pwede ko rin i push start worst case scenario...

    If this ends up costing a lot of money,I am sure my Mom will make me sumbat that I should have sold the car a long time ago. Worse she might force me to replace it now with a Vios

    Nakakatakot kasi yung umaandar na yung mga indicator naka red pa rin Araw araw naman pinapa andar
    use your Altis' battery to start the car

    put the old car's battery in the trunk and drive to the battery shop

    mahirap ba yan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    don't let auto shops/mechanics mystify you with mumbo jumbo and fancy equipment

    they do that to make you think fixing your car is complicated so they can charge you more
    My suking electrician only uses a wire with tiny bulb on the other end.

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    *CVT I can't see the picture

    Yung may parang gripo na icon naka light din. Basta lahat ng icon ata naka red pag naka andar. That was until yesterday nung umaandar pa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaNker View Post
    My suking electrician only uses a wire with tiny bulb on the other end.
    yep same with our electrician

    mababa maningil. ang dami customer

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