How to Know If It Is Only A Battery Problem

[lowslowbenz]

sir, never disconnect the battery with the engine running or the ignition switch on correct me if i'm wrong, but i have never seen or read a repair manual instructing you to disconnect an electrical circuit that is live

+1 ... Never do that in IC charging systems, You will end up frying the one way diodes of the alternator.

[zap.FREEDOM]

My car is a 1996 Corolla GLi. The car is seldom used and the battery has been drained and recharged several times already since I got it in 2009. The last time the battery was recharged was about a month or two ago. Since then the car gets started for about 5 minutes daily. However during the past few days, the battery indicator would still light up even when the car is started. Now I am not sure if I only need to buy a new battery or there could be a deeper problem? The Motolite guy mentioned that there is ground(?) in the battery, I am not sure if I remember it correctly though. I should have the alternator checked daw.

In 2011, I already had the distributor assembly replaced at Tower of David. My car also has an AC problem, it stops blowing cold air in slow traffic or idling. But when it's running fast, it works just fine. There are times when the AC is really cold but often times it's almost just fan. I already had the compressor replaced (original Denso) in 2008 and it cost me 15k!!! I am not sure if all these problems are connected.

Please help me identify my car's problem as I want to have an idea on what needs to get fixed. Also, does anyone know the new contact number of Tower of David? They moved their shop na kasi in Pasong Tamo. I would also appreciate other shop recommendations in Makati or Paranaque area. Thanks!

sis. Cathy, di ka ba pwede lumayo like Paranaque or Marikina area, may i-rerecommend ako sayong magaling na shop dun..Tricked Out Autoworks.

yung sa aircon issue, yung evaporator kasi ng mga corolla dito sa Pilipinas is maliit compared to those corolla in other countries kaya kahit magpalit ka ng compressor, wala pa rin kwenta..read this for more info....sa ngayon may specific upgrade/conversion ang ginagwa para mas maging malamig ang aircon ng mga AE models...kahit tanghaling tapat


https://www.facebook.com/notes/aenin...66864696793237

(c) raybrig / tricked out autoworks

[_Cathy_]

sis. Cathy, di ka ba pwede lumayo like Paranaque or Marikina area, may i-rerecommend ako sayong magaling na shop dun..Tricked Out Autoworks.

yung sa aircon issue, yung evaporator kasi ng mga corolla dito sa Pilipinas is maliit compared to those corolla in other countries kaya kahit magpalit ka ng compressor, wala pa rin kwenta..read this for more info....sa ngayon may specific upgrade/conversion ang ginagwa para mas maging malamig ang aircon ng mga AE models...kahit tanghaling tapat


https://www.facebook.com/notes/aenin...66864696793237

(c) raybrig / tricked out autoworks

I can go to Paranaque. Sige check ko yan.

[zap.FREEDOM]

I can go to Paranaque. Sige check ko yan.

sorry Pasig pala i mean, yung shop kasi nila pasig pa pero boundary na rin ng marikina

[crazy_boy]

C4U, dalhin mo kay Jemson sa banawe. madaming tsikot boys doon na tutulungan ka din

[_Cathy_]

C4U, dalhin mo kay Jemson sa banawe. madaming tsikot boys doon na tutulungan ka din

iwas na ko sa Banawe. Grabe mga kawatan diyan!!!

I went there before with my cousins who knew nothing about cars (My lola had them go with me para daw may lalaki. Honestly, I would have been better off by myself or just my younger cousin, I just don't know how to drive to Banawe) I told my older cousin I didn't want to deal with those guys sa side street but he insisted. The guys were "checking" my car, when I insisted na I did not want to deal with them, we left. When we got to another shop, kulang kulang na yung screws/nuts. Ang bilis ng kamay. WTF!!

[lowslowbenz]

My car is a 1996 Corolla GLi. The car is seldom used and the battery has been drained and recharged several times already since I got it in 2009. The last time the battery was recharged was about a month or two ago. Since then the car gets started for about 5 minutes daily. However during the past few days, the battery indicator would still light up even when the car is started. Now I am not sure if I only need to buy a new battery or there could be a deeper problem? The Motolite guy mentioned that there is ground(?) in the battery, I am not sure if I remember it correctly though. I should have the alternator checked daw.

In 2011, I already had the distributor assembly replaced at Tower of David. My car also has an AC problem, it stops blowing cold air in slow traffic or idling. But when it's running fast, it works just fine. There are times when the AC is really cold but often times it's almost just fan. I already had the compressor replaced (original Denso) in 2008 and it cost me 15k!!! I am not sure if all these problems are connected.

Please help me identify my car's problem as I want to have an idea on what needs to get fixed. Also, does anyone know the new contact number of Tower of David? They moved their shop na kasi in Pasong Tamo. I would also appreciate other shop recommendations in Makati or Paranaque area. Thanks!

Batteries stored for a long time without being disconnected from the car, become heavily drained since the electrical consumers of the vehicle still rely on the battery for power. That is why it is advisable that when the vehicle is not used for a (long) period of time, the battery should be disconnected (don't ask me how I know). When batteries are fully drained (zero charge) some of them may not come back to life again, kahit anong re-charge ang gagawin mo. The battery plates are made of a compressed metal substance that over time crumbles. These metal particles then settle below the battery floor, when it becomes thick enough, then there is "grounding" (what the motolite guy said). Wherein one battery cell, grounds itself to the adjacent cell. When this occurs, you must replace your battery. Attached is a guide on what I am talking about, topic is on page 3 - 4. Sorry for the technical jargon, but I hope you get what I mean.

http://www.biddlemegger.com/biddle/Battery_AG.pdf

Charging light, it may be just a loose alternator belt, of its the alternator itself. Best thing to do is buy a new battery and bring the car to an electrical shop for diagnosis. My gut feel is that the alternator belt is just loose.

Aircon, in old cars, there is no leakproof/perfect system. I should know about that since I have 4 old cars. The AC system has rubber hoses, rubber seals, O-rings, etc. All of which deteriorate over a period of time, hence there are always minute leaks. The only way to remedy this is to replace all rubber hoses and seals, which may come with an expensive repair bill, or have the shop top-up your freon. Small leaks will always be there, no matter what. But it can be a year or two years before you will "feel" that your freon is a bit low again.

I have a suki aircon shop in the corner of Arnaiz ave and Osmena highway in Bangkal, Makati. The name of the shop is Kristal Aire, its located along the service road, near Makati Cars (show room ng mga rubber boats/Boston whalers). Look for Pocholo, the son of the owner. He has done repair work for all my cars, cleaning, conversion, charging, etc. and I am very satisfied with it. Reasonable prices too.

See here: KRISTAL AIRE AIRCONDITIONING SERVICES

Goodluck

[_Cathy_]

I don't think a 2SM battery costs only 3k. I got mine over 5 yrs ago and it cost me 3.5k already.

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[testament11]

Hmmmm, cranking tapos tumitigil. I doubt na timing belt yan. Nasa electrical pa rin ang problema nito. Lets isolate...

1. Battery
2. Alternator
3. Starter

Sabi mo nag jumper ka na pero wala pa rin. Nag crank ang makina pero namamatay. Kung ganyan na, wag mo na i-sacrifice yun malakas na battery. Gawin mo nalang yun sinasabi ni Uls na humanap ka ng malakas na battery, as in yun malakas tapos i-start mo. Kung nag-start, check mo yun dashboard mo kung umiilaw yun mga indicator lights at dalhin agad sa electrical shop at patignan mo na yun starter mo at alternator na rin. Tapos bili ka na rin ng battery na bago. Yun 2SM mo, kahit 5 years na yan, possible na wala na yan sa 100%.

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I'm sorry pero parang napakasimple ng problem. get the battery of the Altis since proven na kaya niyan magpastart ng Oto then put on the big body. Start the car, hindi madidiskarga yung battery sa isang o dalawa try.

put it on ignition on position, pump the gas pedal at least twice. start... takbo sa battery shop with no electric loads. no a/c, radio and lights. wag matakot mamatay engine. it has enough juice to run for at least 20kms kahit traffic.

Kung ayaw tumuloy ng crank, tell us what's happening.

edit: wag bitinin yung crank, let it crank for at least 3secs.

[12vdc]

As per her description, nag crank pero humihinto. Either starter or may restriction sa belt-driven components.

Given that the battery is OK, the mechanic would try to isolate the pulleys by removing drive belts.

Kung nag start without the drive belts, check the pulleys for abnormal restrictions - alternator, water pump, PS, aircon compressor.


Or.. 2years kamo hindi na change oil and she did'nt mention about the oil dipstick. Baka natuyuan ng langis o varnish na sa viscosity.

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from how I read it, jumper cable lang then start. ilan amperage ng cable, gaano katagal pinapatakbo yung donor car. parang bitin pa sa power kaya 2 redondo lang. recta na yung galing sa Altis.

[kinyo]

ayaw tanggalin yung dead battery kasi mareset ang radyo?

[12vdc]

Ayaw nya tanggalin ang battery ng donor car, marereset ang memory.

A typical reduction type starter including the solenoid could consume 60A, starts as low as 7V (her jumper is rated 400A, i jst dont know how good the clamps). Pero kung may restrictions, it could go higher and damage the starter.

Meron sya dead battery from subject car at meron sya spare 2sM battery. She has 2 options if shes still stuck with battery problem.

1 buy the battery charger, charge those batteries overnight then test it again.
2 bring those batteries to the shop for proper diagnosis or charging, then test again..

Mahilig si Ma'am mag DIY. Exhaust possibilities at home muna before going to shops.

[_Cathy_]

Ayaw nya tanggalin ang battery ng donor car, marereset ang memory.

A typical reduction type starter including the solenoid could consume 60A, starts as low as 7V (her jumper is rated 400A, i jst dont know how good the clamps). Pero kung may restrictions, it could go higher and damage the starter.

Meron sya dead battery from subject car at meron sya spare 2sM battery. She has 2 options if shes still stuck with battery problem.

1 buy the battery charger, charge those batteries overnight then test it again.
2 bring those batteries to the shop for proper diagnosis or charging, then test again..

+1 Yung donor car ang ayokong galawin. Nadala na ko sa pag galaw ng mga maayos na auto.

I'll do option number 2

Mahilig si Ma'am mag DIY. Exhaust possibilities at home muna before going to shops.

Yeah you know me so well! Marami pa ko natututunan sa board

[_Cathy_]

^Hindi yung dead battery ang ayokong tanggalin, yung LIVE battery ng Altis ko.

I have a 2SM spare battery naman. Yun na lang gamitin ko, hindi ko na kailangan tanggalin yung sa Altis.

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serioso ba yan na dahil sa radio?

400amp jumpers are weak. it would take some time to charge enough power for the car to turn over. kuha ka na ng mga gauge 4 wires. Ewan ko na lang kung hindi pa crank yan.

[_Cathy_]

serioso ba yan na dahil sa radio?

400amp jumpers are weak. it would take some time to charge enough power for the car to turn over. kuha ka na ng mga gauge 4 wires. Ewan ko na lang kung hindi pa crank yan.

no no no. It's the donor car na ayoko tanggalin ang battery. Altis battery is 1SM. I have a 2SM battery which I could use. I need to have it charged lang dahil spare battery yun.

[12vdc]

serioso ba yan na dahil sa radio?

400amp jumpers are weak. it would take some time to charge enough power for the car to turn over. kuha ka na ng mga gauge 4 wires. Ewan ko na lang kung hindi pa crank yan.

SUVs & trucks nas 150A ang starters, small cars below 100A. Gauge 6 250A will do.

+1 Yung donor car ang ayokong galawin. Nadala na ko sa pag galaw ng mga maayos na auto.

I'll do option number 2


Yeah you know me so well! Marami pa ko natututunan sa board

Haha.. It will take some time pa para ma get over yung battery-problem theory.. Madami naiinip kung aandar ba yan.

If you want, i can initially check or tow your car if necessary. Toolbox in my truck can literally overhaul a car..lol just pm me details.
Im going south this afternoon baka madaanan. Maulan ba south, parang dumidilim.

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Parang pointless to have it charged for testing then tambak for spare. tatagal lang for diagnostics and your not even sure that spare is in good condition.

papunta ka na lang electrician diyan para tapos problema.