Planning on getting an HID retrofit

**zechs** · August 5th, 2017 11:41 AM

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I had my headlights retrofitted way way back in 2006 (i think) way before anyone started here. Just a couple of guys who wanted more sa output ng headlights nila. I started with bmw e46 projectors and osram xenarc bulbs. Nga lang ang pangit sa e46 projectors ay single beam lang. Output is good but not the best dahil may mas marami pang better projectors at that time like TL projectors and FXR's. Laki ng gastos din nun dati. Isipin mo HID kits costs 10K plus pa dati with the projectors and labor, umabot ata ako 25K then.

Fast forward to last year, decided to have the headlights retrofitted again. initially I wanted GaryQ to work on my headlights but I simply couldnt afford his prices anymore. Siguro nga maganda talaga gawa nila but IMO prices could have been more lower. I think they or he tout himself as one of the 'pioneers' in the retrofitting business kaya it warrants those prices. But thats just my opinion.

Stumbled upon xenon concepts work and decided to try them out. Talked to Pao regarding the stage 1 and stage 2 and even stage 3 set ups. Learned that stage 1 he uses mini H1 and then stage 2 uses koito q5. Nag-research lang ako sa youtube regarding outputs and decided to go on stage 2 set up. Didnt bother for stage 3 since Pao said liit lang 'daw' difference sa output eh.

As of today, still rocking the same projectors and bulb set up (all his). Wala naman reklamo masyado sa output. Like any retrofitting jobs, may back jobs obviously. Moisture mainly. But I couldnt fault Pao's men for that because my headlights are not 100% to begin with, so thats kind of okay with me. And binabalikan naman ng mga tao nya yung headlights ko to clean it and reseal it better.

So yeah, sorry kung mahaba. Hehe planning to buy brand new original headlights uli then papalipat ko doon ung set ko. Also I bought Osram CBI xenarc bulbs kasi sabi ni Pao, night and day ang difference with the stock NHK hid bulbs.

Nga pala, dahil satisfied ako sa gawa ni Pao, ung other car ko naka stage 2 din.

**mousemouse** · August 7th, 2017 12:24 PM

Hi Zechs,

Baka pwede ka mag post ng photos? anong naging problem sa sealing? TY!

Originally Posted by zechs

Share ko lang sa akin.

I had my headlights retrofitted way way back in 2006 (i think) way before anyone started here. Just a couple of guys who wanted more sa output ng headlights nila. I started with bmw e46 projectors and osram xenarc bulbs. Nga lang ang pangit sa e46 projectors ay single beam lang. Output is good but not the best dahil may mas marami pang better projectors at that time like TL projectors and FXR's. Laki ng gastos din nun dati. Isipin mo HID kits costs 10K plus pa dati with the projectors and labor, umabot ata ako 25K then.

Fast forward to last year, decided to have the headlights retrofitted again. initially I wanted GaryQ to work on my headlights but I simply couldnt afford his prices anymore. Siguro nga maganda talaga gawa nila but IMO prices could have been more lower. I think they or he tout himself as one of the 'pioneers' in the retrofitting business kaya it warrants those prices. But thats just my opinion.

Stumbled upon xenon concepts work and decided to try them out. Talked to Pao regarding the stage 1 and stage 2 and even stage 3 set ups. Learned that stage 1 he uses mini H1 and then stage 2 uses koito q5. Nag-research lang ako sa youtube regarding outputs and decided to go on stage 2 set up. Didnt bother for stage 3 since Pao said liit lang 'daw' difference sa output eh.

As of today, still rocking the same projectors and bulb set up (all his). Wala naman reklamo masyado sa output. Like any retrofitting jobs, may back jobs obviously. Moisture mainly. But I couldnt fault Pao's men for that because my headlights are not 100% to begin with, so thats kind of okay with me. And binabalikan naman ng mga tao nya yung headlights ko to clean it and reseal it better.

So yeah, sorry kung mahaba. Hehe planning to buy brand new original headlights uli then papalipat ko doon ung set ko. Also I bought Osram CBI xenarc bulbs kasi sabi ni Pao, night and day ang difference with the stock NHK hid bulbs.

Nga pala, dahil satisfied ako sa gawa ni Pao, ung other car ko naka stage 2 din.

**Orv20** · August 8th, 2017 02:09 AM

Originally Posted by hypnos

That's right jtiro.
Iba naman din ang plug'n play na sinasabi ni Orv20. Plug and play is just using an HID bulb on the stock halogen/projector without opening the headlight housing.
bolt on din naman stage1 ni gary.

kung may mali sa cutoff with xenon, contact mo lang sya ang have it fixed. It is imperative na pantay ang car when aligning the output.

ganyan din experience ko kila gary, may loose sa wiring, sometimes it fires up, sometimes it doesnt. kaya hindi na ako nagpagawa sa kanila

Sir hindi na pwede maadjust. Normal na daw sa projectors e. Mejo worried ako nung una at baka nakakasilaw sakasalubong at mejo angat sa left side. Pero parang hindi naman. So pinapabayaan ko nalang ngayon.

**zechs** · August 22nd, 2017 09:54 PM

Di ako makapagpost ng pictures dito eh! Haha. So far, it works for me although itching to upgrade na. May lumabas na LED projectors from morimoto eh.

Sana nga pwede trade in lumang projectors doon sa installer para makapagupgrade hehe

**D3nb3r** · August 22nd, 2017 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by yebo

if you already have projectors and just need a bit more light try raybrig bulbs first. the original raybrig gives almost hid level light, much better than philips or other +30%-50% bulb brands. my sta fe before had raybrig 4300K bulbs, almost as good as hids plus it had a far light throw than the oem halogens. YUN LANG DAMING FAKE. anything less than P2000 ang price for a pair of raybrig will be fake.

i had my pick up retrofitted at redline before. they do great work and i reccomend them.

no offense sir but unless may proof ng test and raybrig bulbs in real world or kahit sa controlled area with lux meter at 25ft from a wall for hot spots measuring, I dont think it is better than philips or osram. Also light throw is not an effect of bulbs only. you have to consider also kung anong projector and lens ang gamit for optics.

**hypnos** · August 23rd, 2017 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by zechs

Di ako makapagpost ng pictures dito eh! Haha. So far, it works for me although itching to upgrade na. May lumabas na LED projectors from morimoto eh.

Sana nga pwede trade in lumang projectors doon sa installer para makapagupgrade hehe

The mled is too expensive, and not worth if for the price. Too much hotspot aimed very low killing the distance. Uneven light distribution just like those aftermarket led bulbs. I wonder why they price it at almost 20k. For that price you can already get an Fxr retrofit service including labor charges.

**confused shoes** · August 23rd, 2017 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by D3nb3r

no offense sir but unless may proof ng test and raybrig bulbs in real world or kahit sa controlled area with lux meter at 25ft from a wall for hot spots measuring, I dont think it is better than philips or osram. Also light throw is not an effect of bulbs only. you have to consider also kung anong projector and lens ang gamit for optics.

Agree, the projector is the big factor.

**zechs** · August 24th, 2017 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by hypnos

The mled is too expensive, and not worth if for the price. Too much hotspot aimed very low killing the distance. Uneven light distribution just like those aftermarket led bulbs. I wonder why they price it at almost 20k. For that price you can already get an Fxr retrofit service including labor charges.

Actually ive set my sights lower. Planning to get the G5-R from Lightwerks or siguro stretch the budget to get the D2S 4.0

**zechs** · August 24th, 2017 11:02 AM

Actually napansin ko today sa carwash, lumaki ung lamat nung lens ng headlight ko. Siguro dahil doon kaya mas lalong pinapasukan ng moisture ung headlights ko.

Planning to:
A) buy a new set of headlights sa casa 5400php each
B) change the NHK D2S bulbs to Osram D2S CBI
C) change the ballasts to OEM 35w (if may difference lang; kung wala stick with the same na lang)

Lastly, kung nahihinaan pa rin ako sa buga nya:
D) change front tint to lightest shade (vkool oem35)

**mousemouse** · August 24th, 2017 05:36 PM

nagparetrofit din ako sa wakas. pinagisipan ko din yung LED projectors, pero sa HID din ako bumagsak. Advantage lang ng LED projector is instant on pero as of now, for the same price mas malakas ang HID retrofits. For me ang main issue is longevity. Sa HID bubuksan lang ulit yung headlight if may leak or nasira ang solenoid. If mapundi ang bulb or masira ang ballast palit lang siya since nakalabas. Sa LED if may masira required na buksan ulit ang headlight kasi lahat nakapasok sa projector. Okay na din sana output niya even if mas mahina siya ng konti sa top of the line na HID retrofits, pero parang masyadong malaking chance for me na may mangyari so ayun, so ultimately nag decide ako na mag HID instead of LED.