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    #321
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    Mag Keon sondra ka nalang.. 5.8k lang..... way better than any Retrofit.. sa light output...

    My 11k Ks led.. mas malakas pa sa 55k na Hid retrofit..

    We did a comparo... and without blingking... everyone voted 11k worth of KS Led is way better... than a 55k Hid Retro..
    Pards do you mind posting the comparison pictures of the HID retrofit vs your Keon Sondra LEDs on your stock projectors?

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    #322
    Ako din interesado akong makita ang comparo ng hid retrofit vs stock projectors+ ks led

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    #323
    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Pards do you mind posting the comparison pictures of the HID retrofit vs your Keon Sondra LEDs on your stock projectors?

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    Paps.. messenger ko sau... or viber.. i cannot post here pictures... i dont know why...

    Pm me sa messeger.. or Tex me viber number mo 09173260492
    Last edited by glenn manikis; September 21st, 2017 at 12:53 PM.

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    #324
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    Mag Keon sondra ka nalang.. 5.8k lang..... way better than any Retrofit.. sa light output...

    My 11k Ks led.. mas malakas pa sa 55k na Hid retrofit..

    We did a comparo... and without blingking... everyone voted 11k worth of KS Led is way better... than a 55k Hid Retro..
    highly interested with this as well.

    ano kayang hid retrofit ung ginamit dito? Wag naman sanang pnp with cheap hid bulbs.

    also interested kung may glare ba ung KS Leds.

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    #325
    sana meron comparison photos nga with the same light and distance settings. Yung sa distance important para malaman if effective nga yung lighting sa malayo vs. sa foreground lighting lang. Puro white na lights kasi ito so sa unang tingin malakas siya dahil sa contrast, pero pag sa actual use na malayuan hidni siya malakas. Sana meron din photos simulating oncoming traffic. Seated driver eye level para ma simulate yung glare.

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    #326
    Keon Sondra ... they could've chosen a better name for the product ... sounds like an MLM product ...

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    #327
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    Mag Keon sondra ka nalang.. 5.8k lang..... way better than any Retrofit.. sa light output...

    My 11k Ks led.. mas malakas pa sa 55k na Hid retrofit..

    We did a comparo... and without blingking... everyone voted 11k worth of KS Led is way better... than a 55k Hid Retro..
    No disrespect sa mga naka pnp leds but when you say "way better than any retrofit sa light output" ano ang basehan? With out proper test it is all kwentong barbero, sorry. Hindi lang palakasan ng output pag nag install ka ng headlight it has to be controlled. Dahil kung palakasan lang ng buga, I can also put a fyrlight off-road lamps as my main driving lights pero that wouldnt be proper, right?
    I can provide tons of info and test in any oem and aftermarket HID projector systems If anyone would like to know.
    But when it comes to price, pnp will always be a cheap option. Just like in cars, you wouldnt ask a bimmer performance from a mirage, would you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by D3nb3r View Post
    No disrespect sa mga naka pnp leds but when you say "way better than any retrofit sa light output" ano ang basehan? With out proper test it is all kwentong barbero, sorry. Hindi lang palakasan ng output pag nag install ka ng headlight it has to be controlled. Dahil kung palakasan lang ng buga, I can also put a fyrlight off-road lamps as my main driving lights pero that wouldnt be proper, right?
    I can provide tons of info and test in any oem and aftermarket HID projector systems If anyone would like to know.
    But when it comes to price, pnp will always be a cheap option. Just like in cars, you wouldnt ask a bimmer performance from a mirage, would you?
    I just cannot post a picture here.. pero we did a side by side comparison.. kaya wag mo sabihin na kwentong barbero at ako mismo nandun...

    Nasa post ko naman WE did a side by side comparison...

    No disrespect din sayo ha.. ikaw ang kwentong barbero.. at wala ka pang actual comparison... nag conclude ka na agad...

    And imagine 55k.. and all you get is a cut off?

    For 55k.. im expecting to get a great cut off and Better light output... or the very least... as bright as ks led..

    Value for money ang Ks led...

    Lux meter? We did not have one... We only have 15 sets of eyes.. that agreed that indeed ks led is better than a hid retro.. Even the car owner of the 55k hid retro agreed....


    Then what you can post kamo tons of info sa Net...
    Sa net? HINDI ikaw mismo ang gumawa?

    Thats called hearsay paps... tsismiss na yan...
    Last edited by glenn manikis; September 21st, 2017 at 06:16 PM.

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    #329
    Quote Originally Posted by 3GEMS View Post
    For 20k is it worth it?

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    I paid 13k for the stage 1. Was worth it kasi halogen reflector lang dati yun altis ko.


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    #330
    Quote Originally Posted by s2kurt View Post
    I paid 13k for the stage 1. Was worth it kasi halogen reflector lang dati yun altis ko.


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    May i ask.. location mo po sir?

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    #331
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    May i ask.. location mo po sir?
    For what matter sir?


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    #332
    Quote Originally Posted by s2kurt View Post
    For what matter sir?


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    Parang na meet na kita? Ikaw ba yun taga Q.c.?
    Naka hid retro..? Sa Cityhall q.c.? Tsikot member din kasi... same car mo

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    #333
    Pag napundi na lang un d2s hid bulbs ko tsaka ko lagyan ng ksled. Siguro maliwanag na talaga un.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    I just cannot post a picture here.. pero we did a side by side comparison.. kaya wag mo sabihin na kwentong barbero at ako mismo nandun...

    Nasa post ko naman WE did a side by side comparison...

    No disrespect din sayo ha.. ikaw ang kwentong barbero.. at wala ka pang actual comparison... nag conclude ka na agad...

    And imagine 55k.. and all you get is a cut off?

    For 55k.. im expecting to get a great cut off and Better light output... or the very least... as bright as ks led..

    Value for money ang Ks led...

    Lux meter? We did not have one... We only have 15 sets of eyes.. that agreed that indeed ks led is better than a hid retro.. Even the car owner of the 55k hid retro agreed....


    Then what you can post kamo tons of info sa Net...
    Sa net? HINDI ikaw mismo ang gumawa?

    Thats called hearsay paps... tsismiss na yan...
    Calm down boy..... Im just asking for facts or kahit pics man lang. So far I havnt seen anything yet. Open minded ako bro. If you can show me real test or something I could base your point Then I would gladly recognize your point with open arms.
    I get it. Ika nga sa headlight junkies forum, people seem to get so defensive pag sinabihan mo sila na may mali sa set up nila. Kahit ang purpose is to promote road safety ikaw pa ang parang jack ass hahah.
    I posted na yung pics ko sa d2s 4.0 ko na set up. Also ang previous gen ko na vehicle was retrofited by redline you can check dun yung mga output shot if andun pa unit ko.

    Now if you want comparison I am using a morimoto d2s 4.0 as of now. wala pa ako sa pinas but i'm going to install this pag usi ko. If you want comparison sa projectors ko ang pati yung bulbs and ballast Meron sa TRS website this the exact same design dahil sa trs ko mismo binili ang set up ko. Also meron din mga video sa you tube of the exact same projector as mine. Also ang previous vehicle ko is using a fxr 2.0 and meron din exact same design available sa trs, lightwerkz, redline, firedrake etc. That is why I said tons of info. dahil ang projector ko ay exact same design sa mga binebenta ng mga reputable shops. How about yours? any reputable shops that is known international?

    I would invite you to join headlight junkies fb group. Then post mo yung panindigan mo dun... we'll see. FYI sa group na yan hindi mga close minded ang mga tao but be ready to defend you claim just in case.

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    #335
    Agree ako about sa road safety hindi lang un sariling safety. Un sa isuzu kasi may angle na may glare sa kasalubong un oem projectors kaya next month ipaparetro ko na.
    Di ko alam kung lahat ba talaga ng oem halogen projectors ay may glare pag kinabitan ng hid or led, kaya di ako pede magjudge sa ibang brand

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    #336
    Quote Originally Posted by kkreuk18 View Post
    Agree ako about sa road safety hindi lang un sariling safety. Un sa isuzu kasi may angle na may glare sa kasalubong un oem projectors kaya next month ipaparetro ko na.
    Di ko alam kung lahat ba talaga ng oem halogen projectors ay may glare pag kinabitan ng hid or led, kaya di ako pede magjudge sa ibang brand

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    sir you must be referring to squirrel spotter

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    #337
    Quote Originally Posted by hypnos View Post
    sir you must be referring to squirrel spotter
    Oo un nga. Kaya mejo nakakahiya din naman ako kaya, itutuloy ko na un pagpaparetrofit para di masayang un philips bulbs ko

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    #338
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post

    And imagine 55k.. and all you get is a cut off?

    For 55k.. im expecting to get a great cut off and Better light output... or the very least... as bright as ks led..

    Value for money ang Ks led...

    Lux meter? We did not have one... We only have 15 sets of eyes.. that agreed that indeed ks led is better than a hid retro.. Even the car owner of the 55k hid retro agreed....
    May gumastos ng 55k for a led or hid headlight?? Dapat pinatanggal na lang nya ang windshield tint at mas masaya pa sya.
    Dami naguupgrade ng headlights pero ang problem naman is yung dark tint nila sa harap.
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    #339
    Quote Originally Posted by JJB View Post
    May gumastos ng 55k for a led or hid headlight?? Dapat pinatanggal na lang nya ang windshield tint at mas masaya pa sya.
    Dami naguupgrade ng headlights pero ang problem naman is yung dark tint nila sa harap.
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    The reason for me upgrading my headlight is because sa dark tint ko. I want the privacy/security and the heat rejection of a dark tint. So to offset the poor visibility ng stock HL ni retrofit ko ang HL ko.

    I really dont know who or sinong installer ang sinasabi ni glenn na 55k daw at disappointed siya sa cut-off and light output. Di rin natin alam kung projectors, bulbs and ballast lang ba nilagay sa HL na yun or may mga custom jobs na ginawa. Nag mamahal ang installation if may mga add-ons like demon eyes, sequential turn lamps or drl. But I agree, 55k is a lot if its for a simple retrofit lang.

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    #340
    55K retrofit, baka quad laser light set up un parang sa bmw. Nice! I would like to see that even in pics lang.

    Nasa optics ng halogen projectors kaya may glare pa rin.

    Siguro kung habol mo light intensity (brightness), go for led na.

    I've seen the FB page of the Keon Sondra led and malakas nga siya. Not sure kung ung mga on-road shots nya ay naka projectors ung car or halogen reflectors only.

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