Planning on getting an HID retrofit

[D3nb3r]

Finally got to compare my OEM LEDs with my newly cleaned HID projector retrofits:

LED:


HID:


Observations:
- Output is roughly the same, but perhaps slightly in favor of the LEDs
- Color temp of LED is much higher than HID
- Projector HID has much better cutoff than LED reflectors

More than wall shots though, I think pictures of actual road lighting paint a more interesting story:





- The HID projectors have a cleaner throw, but most of the lighting intensity is focused on the foreground
- The LEDs have stronger lighting farther out, which I think is more useful especially for driving on dark provincial roads




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Thanks for sharing sir Jut.
This is a good comparison between oem leds and hid projectors. I think your vehicle's led HL has better output than other oem led HL ng mga ibang car manufacturer.
Yung narrow beam ng hid, I think that depends on the type of projectors. The fxr and rx350 are some of the projectors known for their width.
Anong projector, bulb and ballast po gamit nyo sa hid?

[D3nb3r]

Dadag info lang po if for some reason na gusto mag adjust ng cut-off level and wala kayong basehan from you stock HL pwede kayo mag align kahit hindi naka harap sa wall.

Find a long and flat road as possible. If possible at least 3/4 ang fuel sa tank. Check for correct inflation of tires.

At 250meters mark the lower step of your cut off and the 300meters for the upper step cut-off. This is usefull lalo na sa mga suv, pick-ups lifted man or stock height. But in any case can be use sa lahat ng vehicles.

[jut703]

Thanks for sharing sir Jut.
This is a good comparison between oem leds and hid projectors. I think your vehicle's led HL has better output than other oem led HL ng mga ibang car manufacturer.
Yung narrow beam ng hid, I think that depends on the type of projectors. The fxr and rx350 are some of the projectors known for their width.
Anong projector, bulb and ballast po gamit nyo sa hid?

No problem naman on the width, just the concentration of the lighting on the road, malakas yung sa malapit compared dun sa malayo. Not a big deal really, maganda pa rin naman lighting niya in real-world use.

Setup for the HID: Q5 projectors, NHK bulbs and ballasts. Bagong palit yung NHK bulbs, bagong linis yung projector housing.

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[zechs]

*jut703,
I've always known na ung OEM led ng civic maganda talaga eh. Not even projector type yan ha. Safe to say siguro lahat ng OEM led ng honda (civic, crv, accord and legend) ay ok ung output.

Baka pag projector type (may it be ked or hid) parang hindi ganun ka-far out ung layo ng beam nya.

*d3nb3r,
Ang laki naman ng parking lot na kailangan ko para sa 250 and 300 meters. Haha ok mag wall shots sa Landers Otis. Ung side ng Caltex nila laki ng space.

[zechs]

Setup for the HID: Q5 projectors, NHK bulbs and ballasts. Bagong palit yung NHK bulbs, bagong linis yung projector housing.

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Same pala kami ni jut703 ng setup. Big difference is mas fresh ung headlights nya. Ung akin, 12 years old, nag-ye-yellow na despite wetsanding and spraying on clear coat and the persistent moisture inside. Laking difference sa output.

[jut703]

Same pala kami ni jut703 ng setup. Big difference is mas fresh ung headlights nya. Ung akin, 12 years old, nag-ye-yellow na despite wetsanding and spraying on clear coat and the persistent moisture inside. Laking difference sa output.

My car is 13 years old na rin, but maganda yung pagkakalinis ni Tots ng housing. Big difference in terms of cutoff and output before and after it was cleaned.

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[D3nb3r]

*d3nb3r,
Ang laki naman ng parking lot na kailangan ko para sa 250 and 300 meters. Haha ok mag wall shots sa Landers Otis. Ung side ng Caltex nila laki ng space.

Ang method na yan sir is for those na walang basehan ng stock alignment nila dahil kahit may flat wall pa if walang mark ang cut-off ng stock HL wala din basehan so eto po ang alternative solution and this is done sa kalsada, well unless may 300 meter available na parking lot

[zechs]

*jut703
I dont suppose ni wetsand ung sa iyo? Buffing lang?

[jut703]

*jut703
I dont suppose ni wetsand ung sa iyo? Buffing lang?

May sanding din bro IIRC.

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[benten11]

Usual cause ng sunog sa mga wires are faulty installation or walang proper termination ang mga connections. Pag loose kasi ang mga terminals mag cause ng arching yan. Once may arching na then mag start na ang heating. This goes to any electrical systems mapa ac man or dc. Just think about how welding in metal works, in order to melt the welding rod kailangan ng arc. About sa ballast naman depende sa quality naman yan even ang mga known aftermarket brands may lemon din pero ang ratio is like 1000:1 siguro so how much more yung mga cheap ballast na halos walang R&D. Usually sa mga reputable shops may mga warranty naman sila sa mga parts.

Sounds like yung previous hid mo ay direct swap lang ng bulb into your halogen reflector housing?

exactly sir. bulb replacement lang ginawa before, then nakailang palit po ako nang ballasts. kaya po naitanong ko, question ko din po sir, yung nasa hidretrofit po ba di included yung glass sa headlights?kasi nag moist po yung stock na glass nung headlights ko, kung bibili pa ako nang panibagong glass, mapapadoble pala gastos ko. BTW sir salamat po sa mga info!

[D3nb3r]

exactly sir. bulb replacement lang ginawa before, then nakailang palit po ako nang ballasts. kaya po naitanong ko, question ko din po sir, yung nasa hidretrofit po ba di included yung glass sa headlights?kasi nag moist po yung stock na glass nung headlights ko, kung bibili pa ako nang panibagong glass, mapapadoble pala gastos ko. BTW sir salamat po sa mga info!

not sure sa mga installer if libre ba sa mga 1st time customers ang lens cleaning/detailing. Sina sir *jut703 and *zechs both have experience dito. Sa moisture naman occasional moisture is ok lang if mainit headlight tapos biglang ulan but mawawala naman yan after a few hrs pero pag pa balik-balik na and kahit walang ulan or di ka galin sa carwash eh may moist parin then baka may leak na yung HL mo.

if di na kaya malinisan ang HL lens mo pwede mo approach mga SA or lead mechanics sa casa and ask them if meron sila available headlights galing sa mga totally wrecked na units nila. its cheaper kaysa bumili ka ng bago. Yan ginawa ko dati nung nag palit ako ng lens sa HL ko.

[zechs]

May sanding din bro IIRC.

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I see. So sa gumawa na un hahaha ung akin medyo bara bara eh. Hehe. Well thats all in the past now.

Day 1 of 14 days waiting time for the G5...ang tagal!

[glenn manikis]

Remember the long discussion between me and glenn manikis? And I've been asking for a proof. Well he sent me this photo of his low beam plus fogs.



I'm very vocal against headlight that is not properly installed for road safety issues but I'm also quick to accept the idea if the fact and evidence ay pinakita na sa akin. And in this case a stand corrected dun sa ks led projector headlight ni glenn. I mean sa wall shot sa pic you can see that the cut off is good and the step is great. Heck, mas gusto ko pa nga yung step nya kaysa d2s 4.0 ko.
Kaya ganun na lang ang reaction ko dati sa ks led its because sa page nila is puro sabog ang mga naka post na pics. Mas maganda ata *glenn manikis yung wall shot mo gamitin ng ks led for their marketing kaysa yung mga naka low beas pero mga sabog par rin ang output.

I know mas makita ang hotspot sa low beams if medyo maganda ang setting ng camera nya but android gamit nya dyan inside his car. Not sure sa price ng set up nya but sa ganitong outputs medyo may ka kumpetensya na ang mga low to mid level entry ng mga hid kits. And good news to sa mga consumer. more options means cheaper price.

Cost me total more or less 11k

[Walter]

May sanding din bro IIRC.
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Did they apply fresh coat of UV coating? ...

Something like this ... was able to buy a smaller bottle for around 250 only ... available to Ace Hardware ...
Microtex GZ-CG5 Glaz Crystal Guard 5ml Headlamp Coating (Glaz
Series) | Lazada PH

[benten11]

not sure sa mga installer if libre ba sa mga 1st time customers ang lens cleaning/detailing. Sina sir *jut703 and *zechs both have experience dito. Sa moisture naman occasional moisture is ok lang if mainit headlight tapos biglang ulan but mawawala naman yan after a few hrs pero pag pa balik-balik na and kahit walang ulan or di ka galin sa carwash eh may moist parin then baka may leak na yung HL mo.

if di na kaya malinisan ang HL lens mo pwede mo approach mga SA or lead mechanics sa casa and ask them if meron sila available headlights galing sa mga totally wrecked na units nila. its cheaper kaysa bumili ka ng bago. Yan ginawa ko dati nung nag palit ako ng lens sa HL ko.

sir how much did it cost you?possible kaya yun?kasi "business" so malamang ang iaalok nila is a brand new item.but ask ko na rin, yung moist po kasi is there rain or shine. may mga nagaalok sakin before sa banawe na matatangal daw nila yun, pero sabi nang tatay ko matangal man daw ay babalik din. pero try ko rin sir yung advice niyo. thank you so much!

[mousemouse]

looks about right then. did tots mention why the projectors would get dirty?

Thanks for the tip, I'll try to adjust my projectors when I have time.

Although with both headlights on, they're roughly the same level:



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[D3nb3r]

sir how much did it cost you?possible kaya yun?kasi "business" so malamang ang iaalok nila is a brand new item.but ask ko na rin, yung moist po kasi is there rain or shine. may mga nagaalok sakin before sa banawe na matatangal daw nila yun, pero sabi nang tatay ko matangal man daw ay babalik din. pero try ko rin sir yung advice niyo. thank you so much!

alin yung how much sir, yung HL from a totally wrecked unit nila? Pag binigyan ka brand new price eh di brand new na lang bilhin mo hehehe. Matagal ko na kasi kilala yung mechanic sa casa and usually ang 2nd hand nung HL ng vehicle ko ang benta ng iba is around 3-5k sa olx but nakuha ko lang mga 1.8k. Para di ka ma isahan better check mo muna price ng brand new na HL mo dahil depende naman yan sa sasakyan and hindi pareho ang mga headlight prices. Malalaman mo naman if yung price na 2nd hand is worth it.

Tama ang tatay mo, babalik at babalik pa rin yan if may leak. The fact na hindi nawawala ang moisture is either may leak ang seal ng lens cover or ang rubber boot or hindi naka secure ng maayos ang bulb sa bulb seat. Pwede din cause is yung barado ang vent ng HL mo is but this is highly unlikely.

[benten11]

alin yung how much sir, yung HL from a totally wrecked unit nila? Pag binigyan ka brand new price eh di brand new na lang bilhin mo hehehe. Matagal ko na kasi kilala yung mechanic sa casa and usually ang 2nd hand nung HL ng vehicle ko ang benta ng iba is around 3-5k sa olx but nakuha ko lang mga 1.8k. Para di ka ma isahan better check mo muna price ng brand new na HL mo dahil depende naman yan sa sasakyan and hindi pareho ang mga headlight prices. Malalaman mo naman if yung price na 2nd hand is worth it.

Tama ang tatay mo, babalik at babalik pa rin yan if may leak. The fact na hindi nawawala ang moisture is either may leak ang seal ng lens cover or ang rubber boot or hindi naka secure ng maayos ang bulb sa bulb seat. Pwede din cause is yung barado ang vent ng HL mo is but this is highly unlikely.

ay,so possible po pala sir na yung lens/glass lang nung headlight ang bilhin? sabi kasi nang tatay ko mag ipon daw ako kasi worth 20k daw yun sa casa haha. baka buong headlight po yung 20k? haha

lastly sir para di offtopic, so kung bibili po ako nang new headlights, for example sa hidretrofit, no need na po ba ako bumili nang new lens? kasama na po ba yun sa package nang mga seller?

yung sainyo sir ano po installation nang sainyo?ang liwanag e.haha. tinted po ba car niyo?at projector po ba yun?

salamat po

[zechs]

To put into perspective, ung headlight assembly ko, brand new from honda costs 5411php each. Car model is 2005.

[jut703]

looks about right then. did tots mention why the projectors would get dirty?

The heat from the HID degrades the plastic, which is why it needs to be sanded. Even with OEM HIDs, I see this degradation.

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