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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    Cut off.. that is the standard cut off almost all vehicles... better output or brigther output, much clearer.. much safer...

    On the highway naman... same din mas malakas na high beam the better and safer... kasi kita mo kahit malayo...

    KS led is brigther compare to HID and HID retrofit..
    And at a fraction of the cost of A retrofit..
    Yan ang problema, safety mo lang iniisip mo. how about other motorist?

    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    It seems you know a lot about automotive lights... are you a seller of Hid retrofit?

    I understand what you are telling me paps... i know kung nakakasilaw ang auto ko o hindi... at ako ang gumagamit nun... at ako din ang may nakakasalubong... kung nakakasilaw ang auto ko edi sana.. yung mga kasalubong ko nag flaflash.. or signaling me na glaring ang ilaw ko.... kahit naman yan HID mo na may cut off paps pag umabot mukha ng driver ng kasalubong mo... pickup unladen or loaded Glaring din...
    No hindi ako seller and I'm not planning to. I just make sure that I personally know kung anong mods sinasalpak ko sa vehicle ko not because it is written on the label.

    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    HID High beam hindi nakakasilaw...?

    Thats b.s. paps... kahit flashlight lang tapat ko sa mukha... nakakasilaw...

    Fogs mataas ang output?.. combination ng Housing and bulb yan pati level ng bulb kaya nakakasilaw... pag focus mo sa ibaba yan.. ewan ko nalang kung masisilaw ka pa..
    Please paki screen shot kung saan ko sinabi na hindi nakakasilaw ang high beam? I never said that. Ang sabi ko pakitaan mo ako ng pics ng naka properly retrofitted na headlight na may glare. yun lang. Controlled output pinag uusapan bossing. Pag nag wall shot ka ng cut-off ng healight mo dapat walang glare o light above the cutoff. dyan pa alng maikita mo na if may glare o wala. Try mo mag wall shot at 25ft. And oh since we are one the topic, wala ako makitang "step" sa mga cut off dun sa page na yun. I'm sure familiar ka sa term na "step" ng cut off dahil even halogen ay meron nyan.
    Boss naka screen shot sa akin ang nag post sa page sa na sinasabi mo. Yung post nya ang caption is "Fogs only H11" tingnan mo dun sa page and tingnan mo rin ang output. Meron pa isa dun naka low pero check mo ang ilaw sa gilid abot hanggang taas ng pader.
    Last edited by D3nb3r; August 27th, 2017 at 12:51 AM.

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    #202
    *glenn manikis - heres a comparison proper cut-off with step on the left And your so called led on the right at di ko alam kung saan kinuha ang HID kit dyan sa comparison but that is not a proper HID+projector combo. Both HID and led sa 1st pic on the right ay walang mga step ang cut off.
    And please explain to me this 2nd pic on the left is from the fb page you mentioned. Really? fogs/low beam? Now check out the right side of the photo of a low beam on a properly retrofitted HL.
    Di sa sinisiraan ko ang seller. I know he or she is just trying to make a living. Ang sa akin lang pag nag claim tayo be sure that we could back it up lalo na pag nag compare kana ng products mo sa ibang products.

    Again di ako seller. Just an enthusiast/student of automotive lighting.

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    #203
    Quote Originally Posted by D3nb3r View Post
    *glenn manikis - heres a comparison proper cut-off with step on the left And your so called led on the right at di ko alam kung saan kinuha ang HID kit dyan sa comparison but that is not a proper HID+projector combo. Both HID and led sa 1st pic on the right ay walang mga step ang cut off.
    And please explain to me this 2nd pic on the left is from the fb page you mentioned. Really? fogs/low beam? Now check out the right side of the photo of a low beam on a properly retrofitted HL.
    Di sa sinisiraan ko ang seller. I know he or she is just trying to make a living. Ang sa akin lang pag nag claim tayo be sure that we could back it up lalo na pag nag compare kana ng products mo sa ibang products.

    Again di ako seller. Just an enthusiast/student of automotive lighting.

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    Maganda talaga ang cut off... compare mo sa bowl like headlights.. na walang cut off.... pero whats important is... hindi glaring and malakas ang output... and you can see clearly whats in front of you...

    Ang ganda nga ng cut off- ang
    Pangit naman ng price.... its much more expensive than KS led that can give you a better output...

    pero pag naka HID ka na at pinalitan mo ng bulb lang ng KS LED maganda na din ang CUT OFF... mas malakas pa... pero at a fraction of the cost.

    Post pics.. that are actual shot/pictures taken by the customers not by the seller...

    Pics at Ks led are shots taken by customers on their phone... no filter, no special camera...

    You can also read some post there that some were former HID retrofit users.. are now more satistified when they switch to KS led... tapos Its Way cheaper pa.... and wont damage your lens..

    Cge paps.. need to work na.. kahit sun. Kasi madami tau kausap... sakin lang share ko lang sainyo experience ko... may pambile din naman ako ng HID retrofit kahit hangang likod pa ng sasakyan lagyan ko... pero sayang naman ang pera kung meron ibang option na mura na mas malakas pa... and a 14 month warranty..

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    Maganda talaga ang cut off... compare mo sa bowl like headlights.. na walang cut off.... pero whats important is... hindi glaring and malakas ang output... and you can see clearly whats in front of you...
    that is waht I've been saying all along.

    Ang ganda nga ng cut off- ang
    Pangit naman ng price.... its much more expensive than KS led that can give you a better output...
    So ok lang ang better out put kahit sabog sabog ang ilaw dahil hindi tama ang cut-off at walang step?

    pero pag naka HID ka na at pinalitan mo ng bulb lang ng KS LED maganda na din ang CUT OFF... mas malakas pa... pero at a fraction of the cost.
    Hindi pa rin tama boss na mag palit ka ng kahit anong bulb na gusto mo dahil pasok sa holder lalo na if hindi design ang bulb sa housing na gagamitin mo. Di mo pa rin makukuha ang proper optics ng headlight. Kaya yung isa kung pics na pinakita is about focal point.

    Post pics.. that are actual shot/pictures taken by the customers not by the seller...

    Pics at Ks led are shots taken by customers on their phone... no filter, no special camera...
    I know hindi sa seller yung mga pics, but the mere fact that it is advertised sa page na yun is something I dont understand.

    You can also read some post there that some were former HID retrofit users.. are now more satistified when they switch to KS led... tapos Its Way cheaper pa.... and wont damage your lens..
    Ang tanong what kind of HID ang ginamit ng mga users ng leds dun sa page before sila nag switch to KS led? Example of a poor HID system ay makita mo dun sa comparison ng ks led vs HID. Yung ginamit nila na HID pag compare sa ks led is so bad na mas maganda pa ang stock halogen headlight. And a properly retrofitted system will never damage your lens.

    Cge paps.. need to work na.. kahit sun. Kasi madami tau kausap... sakin lang share ko lang sainyo experience ko... may pambile din naman ako ng HID retrofit kahit hangang likod pa ng sasakyan lagyan ko... pero sayang naman ang pera kung meron ibang option na mura na mas malakas pa... and a 14 month warranty..
    I know may pambili ka. ranger sasakyan mo so around 1.7m. naka 5" lift ka so ang drop kit mo siguro mga 150k. di pa kasama ang gulong mo baka naka 35" nitto trail grappler ka pa. then ang rims mo malamang 20" if BR yan 50-60k. Kaya I know mapera ka.
    pano nyo na sabi na mas malakas? May output shot kayo with lux meter? and at what distance nilagay ang measuring tool? I can post a pic again of TRS and lightwerkz of how they test their items with data and numbers and the test was done in a controlled space para balance ang lahat ng test.

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    #205
    Hmm, I also considered buying those PnP LED kits before but after reading about the topic i decided on the HID retrofit route. I noticed that a lot are selling Philips Luxeon, etc.. but the only thing Philips with these products are the LEDs itself. The circuit board and more importantly the design are all just individual, untested designs by the seller. I looked at reviews and output shots of these kits and these ranged from really bad output with glare to a little better looking than Halogen. On some reflectors it would work, on some it would not. Looks like the idea that it has a lot more usable brightness is due to the color which is a lot whiter than Halogens and a lot more contrast. For me, I think these are risky and I would have needed to to try out different sets and combinations, and the benefit would not have been too much. I would rather have used the high end Osram and Philips Halogens for about 2k.


    By the way Philips has an original X-treme Ultinon for H4 sized bulb replacement. The reviews seem to be decent but its being sold for 220 usd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mousemouse View Post
    Hmm, I also considered buying those PnP LED kits before but after reading about the topic i decided on the HID retrofit route. I noticed that a lot are selling Philips Luxeon, etc.. but the only thing Philips with these products are the LEDs itself. The circuit board and more importantly the design are all just individual, untested designs by the seller. I looked at reviews and output shots of these kits and these ranged from really bad output with glare to a little better looking than Halogen. On some reflectors it would work, on some it would not. Looks like the idea that it has a lot more usable brightness is due to the color which is a lot whiter than Halogens and a lot more contrast. For me, I think these are risky and I would have needed to to try out different sets and combinations, and the benefit would not have been too much. I would rather have used the high end Osram and Philips Halogens for about 2k.


    By the way Philips has an original X-treme Ultinon for H4 sized bulb replacement. The reviews seem to be decent but its being sold for 220 usd.
    Trust me, any bulb that is installed on any housing that is not specifically designed for that bulb will never work properly. Kaya ang mga reputable brands, oem man or aftermarket ay gumagawa ng mga replacement bulbs that is made specifically for a certain housing.
    I also want to point out that whiter light (north of 6000K) ay useless sa adverse weather, ulan man or fog. lalo na sa asphalt road. That is why if you compare ang mga HID bulbs like Osram NB(4200k) has better contrast if compare mo sa Osram CBI(5500K) during adverse weather condition. Heck even rally cars use 3000k and below for fog lights na almost yellow na during night competition. But whiter light has more bling effect on it and also if mostly city driving people usually prefer the cbi vs nb. But I'm a philips guy so naka 85122 ako dati and I plan to install XV sa plan DIY retrofit ko

    Ultinon is 6000k I would'nt use that if I were you if palagi kang out of town. But hey, as long as di nasisilaw ang ibang motorist(in-coming or travelling in same direction as you) at gusto mo ng bling look then go for it.

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    Hehe wala ng chance mag LED, nag hid na din ako. 85122 bulb which already seems a lot whiter than halogens

    Quote Originally Posted by D3nb3r View Post
    Trust me, any bulb that is installed on any housing that is not specifically designed for that bulb will never work properly. Kaya ang mga reputable brands, oem man or aftermarket ay gumagawa ng mga replacement bulbs that is made specifically for a certain housing.
    I also want to point out that whiter light (north of 6000K) ay useless sa adverse weather, ulan man or fog. lalo na sa asphalt road. That is why if you compare ang mga HID bulbs like Osram NB(4200k) has better contrast if compare mo sa Osram CBI(5500K) during adverse weather condition. Heck even rally cars use 3000k and below for fog lights na almost yellow na during night competition. But whiter light has more bling effect on it and also if mostly city driving people usually prefer the cbi vs nb. But I'm a philips guy so naka 85122 ako dati and I plan to install XV sa plan DIY retrofit ko

    Ultinon is 6000k I would'nt use that if I were you if palagi kang out of town. But hey, as long as di nasisilaw ang ibang motorist(in-coming or travelling in same direction as you) at gusto mo ng bling look then go for it.

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    #208
    Quote Originally Posted by mousemouse View Post
    Hehe wala ng chance mag LED, nag hid na din ako. 85122 bulb which already seems a lot whiter than halogens
    Actually 85122 which is at 4300k is usually the standard color temperature of most car manufacturer if the car has HID projectors as a stock headlight.

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    #209
    Waiting for my osram cbi's to arrive. Iniisip ko kung bili pa ako ng 'branded' na ballast kung would it help the output more eh. Im using NHK ballast right now.

    And is it true nakakasunog ng plastic lens ng headlight pag nag-55 watts na system na?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zechs View Post
    Waiting for my osram cbi's to arrive. Iniisip ko kung bili pa ako ng 'branded' na ballast kung would it help the output more eh. Im using NHK ballast right now.

    And is it true nakakasunog ng plastic lens ng headlight pag nag-55 watts na system na?
    NHK ballast ay ok naman po. Even lightwekz shop sa US is using them though pag dating sa internal circuitry mas advance ang brands like morimoto dahil pag may na detect na hindi tama yung morimoto ballast ay mag shutdown siya to prevent damage sa ibang components.

    Wala pa ata akong nabasa or nakita na may nasunog na headlight lens(plastic) ang 55w if it was properly installed. At ang 55w system ay ang ballast ang 55w not the bulb, dis-advantage ng 55w ballast though malakas talaga ang output nya ay iiksi ang lifespan ng bulb dahil over driven na ang bulb. Kaya nga sa redline pag nag request ka ng 55w ballast ay 1yr lang ata warranty instead of the normal 2yrs if i'm not mistaken.

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