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    #51
    baket tayo masyado natutuwa dito sa euro 4 standards? diba luma na ito at may mas mataas na standards na available?

    dahil ba ito lang ang market need ng pinas? o eto ang most bang for the buck standard na gamitin ng pinas?

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    ^why not? if it's for the good of our environment, whether euro 4 or 5 or 1 million, why we shouldn't be happy? everything has to start somewhere, and that somewhere is here and now.

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    Sabagay Euro 6 na nga starex sa grey market eh. Pero good start na ito..much much cleaner sa euro 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stigg ma View Post
    baket tayo masyado natutuwa dito sa euro 4 standards? diba luma na ito at may mas mataas na standards na available?

    dahil ba ito lang ang market need ng pinas? o eto ang most bang for the buck standard na gamitin ng pinas?
    Because we are at least going somewhere. Lower sulfur = less sulfuric acid as by-product (benefits engine longevity) = emissions systems won't get clogged or lose efficiency (Euro 4 vehicles) = less pollution for humans

    The process of removing sulfur from fuel stock lengthens the refining process, which translates to increased production costs. Refiners are compelled to do this now however, to comply with government regulations.

    Bottom line is, if you lower the fuel sulfur, all other pollutants follow suit (Euro 4 vehicles).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Martinez View Post
    ^why not? if it's for the good of our environment, whether euro 4 or 5 or 1 million, why we shouldn't be happy? everything has to start somewhere, and that somewhere is here and now.
    you don't get the point of my question, why go the outdated euro 4 if a higher standard is already available?

    kung hindi pa mandated by DOE by 2016 mag EURO 4 eh di naman mag uupgrade ito mga oil companies? where is the care in the environment there? and sa DOE what made them decide na EURO 4 lang dapat sa pinas? cost sa production mas mataas sa higher standard, how can cost be justified sa on-going environmental change aka climate change?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stigg ma View Post
    you don't get the point of my question, why go the outdated euro 4 if a higher standard is already available?
    pray tell me, what's so arcane or difficult to understand in your post?

    you read it again.

    you asked why there is so much fuss about euro 4 when another standard is available, right?

    you don't want us to be happy about the implementation of euro 4 because another standard is available, right?

    this was why I SAID: everything has to start somewhere, and that somewhere is here and now, whether or not it's euro 4 or 5 or 1 million.

    rather than bicker or quibble, what did Theodore Roosevelt say about this? --

    "Do what you can, with what you have, where you are."

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    A simple question was answered by a simple answer then followed up by a more complicated question that goes back to the simple answer. Hehehe.

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    +1 for JM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Martinez View Post
    pray tell me, what's so arcane or difficult to understand in your post?

    you read it again.

    you asked why there is so much fuss about euro 4 when another standard is available, right?

    you don't want us to be happy about the implementation of euro 4 because another standard is available, right?

    this was why I SAID: everything has to start somewhere, and that somewhere is here and now, whether or not it's euro 4 or 5 or 1 million.

    rather than bicker or quibble, what did Theodore Roosevelt say about this? --

    "Do what you can, with what you have, where you are."
    sad to know that what we have is an outdated one and we are contented with it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stigg ma View Post
    sad to know that what we have is an outdated one and we are contented with it
    happiness and contentment are two different animals.

    everything, which includes CHANGE, has to start somewhere . is there a constant change?

    i hate to repeat myself like garrulous octogenarians, with all due respect to them.

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