Shell Philippines to launch Euro 4 fuels by Jan. 1, 2016

[matty]

Did they increase the prices (at least for the diesel)???

I noticed that a couple of Petron gas stations here in our area did that when they shifted to euro4...

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No they didn't. Fuelsave diesel is 21.40 and vpd is 3 pesos higher

[radz15]

*radz15: sir nagpakarga ako ngayon, may sign na fuelsave at vpower nitro nila euro 4 na lahat. Nagtanong din ako and euro 4 na daw gasoline at diesel nila. Dun sa maliit na shell along dña Soledad. Tried the fuel save diesel muna.

Baka euro4 na lahat

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[CVT]

I am now wondering what will now be the differentiation factor for unioil's euro4 diesel, since they are at least P0.80 more expensive per liter vs the big 3....???



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[bloowolf]

I am now wondering what will now be the differentiation factor for unioil's euro4 diesel, since they are at least P0.80 more expensive per liter vs the big 3....???



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Just brand loyalty. Eventually, they will have to adjust.

[crazy_boy]

^they should start importing euro5 fuels na grin:

[jaggerx3]

^they should start importing euro5 fuels na grin:

Sa C5 na shell dati bago mag market market may Euro 5 diesel sila. Exclusive for BGC bus.

[jut703]

All of Shell's products are Euro IV already.

Both the supply from Petron/Total as well as Shell's own refined products from Tabangao.

Stations also have the Euro IV streamer displayed already.

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[cardict]

All of Shell's products are Euro IV already.

Both the supply from Petron/Total as well as Shell's own refined products from Tabangao.

Stations also have the Euro IV streamer displayed already.

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Yes,may euro4sticker mga pumps nila,karga ako kahapon ng nitro diesel,sabi ng gas boy"sir euro4 na po tayo":approved:

[Juan Martinez]

^why not? if it's for the good of our environment, whether euro 4 or 5 or 1 million, why we shouldn't be happy? everything has to start somewhere, and that somewhere is here and now.

[Stigg ma]

^why not? if it's for the good of our environment, whether euro 4 or 5 or 1 million, why we shouldn't be happy? everything has to start somewhere, and that somewhere is here and now.

you don't get the point of my question, why go the outdated euro 4 if a higher standard is already available?

kung hindi pa mandated by DOE by 2016 mag EURO 4 eh di naman mag uupgrade ito mga oil companies? where is the care in the environment there? and sa DOE what made them decide na EURO 4 lang dapat sa pinas? cost sa production mas mataas sa higher standard, how can cost be justified sa on-going environmental change aka climate change?

[Juan Martinez]

you don't get the point of my question, why go the outdated euro 4 if a higher standard is already available?

pray tell me, what's so arcane or difficult to understand in your post?

you read it again.

you asked why there is so much fuss about euro 4 when another standard is available, right?

you don't want us to be happy about the implementation of euro 4 because another standard is available, right?

this was why I SAID: everything has to start somewhere, and that somewhere is here and now, whether or not it's euro 4 or 5 or 1 million.

rather than bicker or quibble, what did Theodore Roosevelt say about this? --

"Do what you can, with what you have, where you are."

[Djerms]

A simple question was answered by a simple answer then followed up by a more complicated question that goes back to the simple answer. Hehehe.

[Stigg ma]

pray tell me, what's so arcane or difficult to understand in your post?

you read it again.

you asked why there is so much fuss about euro 4 when another standard is available, right?

you don't want us to be happy about the implementation of euro 4 because another standard is available, right?

this was why I SAID: everything has to start somewhere, and that somewhere is here and now, whether or not it's euro 4 or 5 or 1 million.

rather than bicker or quibble, what did Theodore Roosevelt say about this? --

"Do what you can, with what you have, where you are."

sad to know that what we have is an outdated one and we are contented with it

[Juan Martinez]

sad to know that what we have is an outdated one and we are contented with it

happiness and contentment are two different animals.

everything, which includes CHANGE, has to start somewhere . is there a constant change?

i hate to repeat myself like garrulous octogenarians, with all due respect to them.

[oj88]

sad to know that what we have is an outdated one and we are contented with it

Euro 4 is still current. You'd be surprised that a lot of our neighbors are still on Euro 1 and 2.

The shift from Euro 2 to Euro 4 slashed sulphur emissions by 90% (from 500ppm to 50ppm). Compared to a lot of countries that are still spewing out 150 to 7,000ppm.

You have to look at it as a glass half-full.

http://www.unep.org/transport/new/pc...ix_Jan2015.pdf

[jut703]

sad to know that what we have is an outdated one and we are contented with it

Euro 2 was only required by the government in 2008. That was a delay of more than a decade. Euro 4 was initially planned to be required by 2010, but was unfortunately pushed back to 2012, and even further to 2016.

Again, the ignorance and gall to ask for Euro 5 and 6 as if you were just shopping for Ruffles instead of Piattos in the grocery is nothing short of annoying.

The delay in the implementation was in no small part caused by Petron's lobbying to push back the deadline to 2016. They have already spent over 2 billion dollars in the upgrade of their Limay refinery (RMP2), but it inevitably took a lot of time and they were only able to finish it this year. Shell's Tabangao refinery upgrade was even more of a buzzer-beater, only completed at the tail end of the year.

If the government forced to implement Euro IV in 2012, or perhaps implemented Euro V today, tell me, where exactly will we get the products? Again, our country's 2 refineries have been upgraded extensively but only up to Euro IV standards, as going even higher will translate to exponentially higher costs. Baby steps, but alway ever forward.

If you bring out the argument that Unioil was able to offer Euro IV much earlier compared to major brands, remember that they're a small importer. Even then, at that time, the cost difference of importing Euro IV vs Euro II was over 1 peso per liter. That will inevitably have been passed on to consumers, and would have faced countless complaints from transport groups. And if you consider that the major companies will be unable to use their local refineries as they will have to import 100% of their supply, the cost difference would have been closer to 5 pesos as you will have unused assets just languishing.

Today, the cost difference of Euro II and Euro IV has been reduced significantly to only about 15-30 cents per liter, thanks to local production from our local refineries. This has also allowed importers to negotiate lower prices from their foreign sources. Euro 5 and 6, however, are still significantly more expensive, and forcing to implement them will result in the same problems if we had implemented Euro 4 5 years prior.


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[jaggerx3]

Sabagay Euro 6 na nga starex sa grey market eh. Pero good start na ito..much much cleaner sa euro 2

[Mask Rider Blac]

+1 for JM.

[anonemus]

When will Euro 6 be required in the country?