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    #281
    Quote Originally Posted by light2light View Post
    Kung yong LPG Stove fuel saver kaya, baka pansinin?
    Doubtful.


    uls, kulang tayo sa bread, pre. Tama ka, I am not a businessman. Tama na sana yong naipundar ko from being a former OCW. Mas maganda siguro ang buhay ko kung hindi ko naimbento ang NUVITRON, at nadagdagan pa ng NUVIMATE at nacombine pa namin ang dalawa sa iisang innovation, syempre lalong naging effective.
    Why not quit while you are ahead? Or least not in debt.


    Or advertise for a product developer or marketing company who is willing to take your product to the next level? There are always options beyond simply asking for money. Or simply promote it to those kinds of companies?


    And to think that ang balak ko sana nuon ay magexperiment ng non-ferous metal detector.
    err... sorry to bust your ideas but there are already detectors for those. In fact, metal detectors will detect both ferrous (iron based) and non-ferrous metals. It should also work on conductive non-metallic minerals. Kindly read up on how metal detectors work.
    Last edited by ghosthunter; June 5th, 2012 at 02:03 PM.

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    Item A: Today, I’ll prove to you that ionization(or polarization) works. It’s up to the innovator to control /harness it. You can prove it to yourself, right inside your kitchen. Ionization is like a wild stallion, you’ve to catch it and tame it.

    *Item B. The commonrail and turbocharger are now a hundred years old. When they were 5-10 years old, what do you think were their status? Ordinary, so-so, palpak, scammer ang mga nag-inbento nito, etc. Kung may mga tsikoteers na hecklers nuon, palagay ko, pagtiyatiyagaan na lang natin ang carb at injection pump. After 90 years, naperfect ng Fiat ang CR sa pamamagitan ng Unijet nila, a solenoid actuated injector called Unijet, then the Multijet, Multijet II in 2009. These were sold to Robert Bosch who named it Common Rail System. If it took a century for CR to evolve from a 600bar to the present 2000bar (29,000 psi), maybe the ICT could evolve too. These are inventions (as fuel saver or engine enhancer) that were incorporated in the engine itself.

    Even Mr. Diesel himself had his share of negative responses. His design called for a 50bar compression but the technology at that time could only give him 25bars. He was heckled and jeered by German tsikoteers and he was driven by the mighty tide of public opinion to his suicide. On one of his trips, he jumped overboard and drowned. After his death, the scientific community quickly developed better compressors (600bars) and the diesel engine became the workhorse of European and American industries.

    They say that the scientific community took 20 years to accept Einstein’s theory of relativity.

    The ICT is barely 10 years old and auto enthusiasts are already clamoring for its demise. Give it more time for engineers to ‘tweek’ it to perfection, since the simplest and cheapest way to mix air and fuel is to apply an energy framework of cohesion, adhesion and electromagnastatic energies between the two elements of air and fuel. Optimum mixing will result in the highest possible level of combustion, akin to the CR/Turbocharger tandem. (Many had lined the Khaos with ICT. Wala pang nasirang engine ang ICT, after 400-500 units sold. The cars should be at least 5 years old; non-common rail.

    I am sure that ICT has something to offer: e.g., it increased engine power of a Mits Galant by 15hp *4000rpm. And it was only the EM component that was installed. Imagine if these two complementary device/s were tested. Have you ever seen a 98KIA Pride with an fc of 20-25kltr? A ‘98 KIA Pride owner would be lucky if his fc is 15k/ltr. We had been filling our tank with 50% ordinary gasoline and 50% special gasoline without noticing any adverse effects. Don’t do this with an ‘unaided’ car.


    It is no big deal to me if our emissions will be HC = 50, 100, 200,300, 400 or 500ppm just as long as it is way down the emission standard of 600ppm. Do you know what 40% HC is? Parang emission ng barko o coal-fired generator yan, a.

    *Item C: About additives. Engr Tony of UK and EPA( et al) had debunked additives with their ‘scientific’ explanations, yet look at what the oil companies are mixing with their fuels now = F1 fuel, Euro 4 diesel, Gold , Silver, nitro, etc, whatever. What do we hear from EPA et al? Nothing but hot air. ( I have seen how the F2020 was ‘buried’ in 2008 in another forum). I’ve told you before, EPA et al is financed by the Big 3. Additives, or a variation of it, is now ‘cool’. “Additives is bad for your engine if it is not made by oil companies”. Lumabas din ang katotohanan.

    ***Lest I forget; ionization can be best demonstrated in your kitchen::: Take a line magnet, similar to those posted on this thread. Slip these magnets on your lpg stove hose, similar to the installation procedures provided by the mfrs. Or take the magnet of an old speaker and tape it to the hose; the bigger, the better. Please be careful not to put unnecessary strain on the hose.

    It is necessary that you have a log on your lpg usage for 2-4months, noting the price and number of days used. Take the average. I have logged our lpg usage since 2006; every month, up this date. Average number of days used is 20-30days (no firewood and rice cooker used). If fitted with a magnet = 13-15days. “Just because you haven’t seen a ghost doesn’t mean that they don’t exist.”

    (Kung galit kayo sa kapitbahay niyo, lagyan ng magnet ang lpg hose nila. Joke. May karma yan.)

    Tsikoteers, see you in 90-120 days.

    Lastly: Pls see the new dyno results by Speedlab on our blog. Thank you.

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    #283
    so you're saying your invention is right up there with the turbocharger and the diesel engine?

    dude, lampasan mo muna ang "success" ng Khaos

    you're invention doesnt even come close to the market success of Khaos and you're thinking your invention will become as widespread as turbos and diesel engines

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    #284
    That's one of the least impressive dyno's I have seen, No low end or high end power gains, Just from 4000 to 5000rpms, no power gains at all during lower rpms which is what you drive at so how does this save fuel again? Driving at 4000rpm is not going to save any fuel.

    You show a loss of torque from 1000rpms to 2500rpms. Sounds like a product people would want to buy???

    What is the point of the signatures on the dyno, looks very unprofessional. No official documentation or DOST letter head, just hand written on the dyno printout from speedlab. Again not a impressive dyno test.




    To save fuel you need to make HP and TQ through the entire rpm band. Here's how that works.



    I'm sure it's clear to everyone the difference. How can this product claim the fuel saving it claims when something else that makes way more power though the entire rpm band will only get you about a 5% gain. It takes a lot to get 20% better fuel economy.


    Another example, Gain far greater gains through the entire power ban but no ridiculous fuel saving claims.

    Last edited by dvldoc; June 6th, 2012 at 12:23 PM.

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    #285
    WTF! Di ko akalain na babasahin ko lahat ng to mula page 1. Pero to be fair naman, naaliw din ako. Nung una akala ko kung anong breakthrough ito. Ahihihihi

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    #286
    Haha nabawasan pa ng low-end torque.

    Tingin niyo bibilhin talaga yan?

    :bwahaha:

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    #287
    To: the DOE Sec.
    Dir., Alternative Fuels and Energy Technology Div.
    Dir., Energy Utilization Management Bureau
    Engr. Simon S. Leonor, EUMB, DOE
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    Engr. Ronaldo P Parreno Jr.
    Engr. Ryan G. Ibarra, DOST

    Sir/Ma’am,

    In Oct 2008, we had our invention, the NUVITRON Electronic Fuel Economizer undergo the test protocol of Environmental Technology Verification by the DOST thru ITDI hoping that an accreditation from the official government entity could be a plus factor in the commercialization of our device

    It seems that DOE has not seen the ETV document. (57pages) It would be unfair to us that after spending P70K-P80K (TAPI reimbursed P30K), DOE’s AFETD and EUMB do not know about this. During the transition of the Arroyo to the Pnoy government, the documents got entangled in their files.

    That’s why I am mentioning this to them to verify it’s existence with the IPCT-ITDI-DOST (rle*dost.gov.ph). The results on gasoline engines showed significant increase on engine power (+15 HP *4000rpm) and increased fuel efficiency (10.22%-13.56%). Actual usage could result in fuel efficiency up to 30% on highway driving; long drive. This improvement alone could have benefited the taxi drivers and private motorist if implemented.

    The NUVITRON (a single tech device) had been enhanced farther with the addition of another device, almost doubling its efficacy by the dual-tech-in-one innovation and the technology is being offered to the government, gratis! (without prejudice to our patents).

    Unfortunately, it has fallen on deaf ears. I cannot imagine why DOE’s options: E–jeeps, LPG jeeps, CNG buses and other grandiose options that require P150K-300K/vehicle are preferred while an add-on innovation costing not more than P10K is waylaid. This grandiose options are worthwhile and should be pursued. However, AFETD and EUMB should not discard VERIFIED TECHNOLOGIES especially if it will cost almost nothing to the govt since the drivers/motorists will pay back the costs of the devices within a year or two.

    Please don’t judge a technology by its cost. For all you know, the technology will give your grandiose options a run for the money. I am of the belief that the govt will give a sigh of relief after implementing this scheme. You know why? Why should I waste my time and yours during my twilight years? Its because the Almighty had given me/us the insight to develop unusual, never-heard-of technologies that could address fuel and energy concerns. Sana, pakuyakuyakoy na lang ako ngayon since I immensely enjoy electronic experimenting as a hobby.

    Pero nakita ko ang paghihirap ng masa, lalonglalo na ang mga drivers, mga magsasaka, mga mangngisda, etc.,na nahihirapang pumasan ng napakamahal na krudo, gasolina o LPG. Ako’y nahihirapan dahil alam kong hawak ko/namin ang susi sa pagpapagaan ng buhay nila, kahit na bahagya man lang, pero ang gobyerno at DOE ay nakatingin sa malayo; sa kapit bahay. Konting yuko naman, mga sirs, sa ating bakuran at duon niyo makikita ang kalutasan ng taon-taong suliranin nating ito.

    Sana, i-implement natin ang teknolohiyang ito na na-verified ng IPCT-ITDI-DOST na kinikilala ng DOE, sapagkat kung hindi, paulit-ulit na mararanasan ang oil price hikes sa 2013 at sa mga maraming taon na darating.

    (Pls merge w/ "Dear Mr. President" TIA

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    #288
    why do you keep on posting those letters here in tsikot?

    as if those doe secretaries and what not, plus your mr. president is a tsikoteer

    if you want to be noticed spam their emails with your offers...

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    and btw dude your gadget decreases the vehicle's low-end torque

    who in the right mind would buy a gadget that decreases the car's stock power?

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    #289
    kala ko ba kay Pnoy? ngayon sa DOE na lang?

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    #290
    why do you keep on posting those letters here in tsikot?

    as if those doe secretaries and what not, plus your mr. president is a tsikoteer

    if you want to be noticed spam their emails with your offers...
    he's probably hoping somebody here well-connected to the govt would help him

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    #291
    the guy has fighting spirit no?

    hehehe

    looks more like an act of desperation

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    #292
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    he's probably hoping somebody here well-connected to the govt would help him
    hahahaha

    well somebody should slap the guy then

    he's dreaming too much already

    bangungot na yan

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    #293
    The dynos were taken almost immediately after installation, which should not be the case (insufficient conditioning run). In spite of these, the small improvements could have been better had we been allowed to travel for a day or two.

    Why fault me with the signatures? These were the signatures of the three engineers together with the dyno operator/technician.

    Why compare us with KHAOS? We do not have a politician who endorsed the product who was complying his political ambition by cavorting with the inc. Hindi ko alam kung tutuo ito. If it isn't. sorry. I do not like to be 'successful' by hyping. Maraming galit sa product na ito dito sa amin. I do not have to elaborate because you know the score. (Air-bleed devices are the forerunner of the EFI.)

    Anyway, your negative tirades against me will be nothing compared to the backlash from the President himself, DOE, DENR, DOTC, etc if they accept the ICT at kaysa makatulong sa masa, sumablay pa. I have no doubt in my mind that makakatulong ako sa mga drivers, fishermen at farners na gumagamit ng oil products, because I know that Science and Technology and Divine Providence are on my side. Never mind the hecklers, downgraders and the EPALs.

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    #294
    may adjustment period?

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    I have no doubt in my mind that makakatulong ako sa mga drivers, fishermen at farners na gumagamit ng oil products, because I know that Science and Technology and Divine Providence are on my side. Never mind the hecklers, downgraders and the EPALs.
    good luck

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    #296
    the word is DELUSIONAL

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    Quote Originally Posted by light2light View Post
    Why compare us with KHAOS? We do not have a politician who endorsed the product who was complying his political ambition by cavorting with the inc. Hindi ko alam kung tutuo ito. If it isn't. sorry. I do not like to be 'successful' by hyping. Maraming galit sa product na ito dito sa amin. I do not have to elaborate because you know the score. (Air-bleed devices are the forerunner of the EFI.)
    BTW, re that ^^^

    kaya ko na-bring up ang Khaos... kasi you think your invention is on the same level sa the diesel engine and the turbocharger

    bago mo isipin na magiging kasing widespread ng diesel engine at turbocharger ang iyong invention, gawin mo muna kasing widespread ng Khaos ang iyong invention

    that isnt a high bar to pass. Khaos isnt really that widespread

    di mo pa nga naabot ang naabot ng Khaos feeling mo your invention will go global

    higitan mo muna ang naabot ng Khaos. then let's talk global

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    #298
    Quote Originally Posted by sirkosero View Post
    may adjustment period?
    I was thinking the same thing, He clearly has no understanding of how dynos or internal combustion engines work. They dynos I posted are also directly after installation.

    These guys always come up with the conspiracy theory stuff when challenged. Anyways nothing will ever become of this product just like HHO and all the other (in theory) devices that actually do nothing to increase fuel economy.

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    #299
    susunod sa senate na sulat nya.......

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    #300
    This guy is worst than OB...

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