I am not trying to selling something with questionable functions.
My relative anonymity gives me protection from threats and retaliations from "unfriendlies".
My reviews or comments can be taken at face value. I have NOTHING at stake with the product. I am not the seller nor a customer. I can give my educated comments regarding the concepts and technology used on the gadget.
The fact is you aren't the first nor probably the last guy who has tried selling fuel saving devices in TSIKOT.COM.
I approach each device with an open mind on its function and claims. If the claims do not match the device's functions, then I will call it what it is.
Simple as that.
No B.S.
No exaggerations.
Just the truth as I see it.
sorry, ngarud, sir. Now, I am trying to digest the replies of devildoc no.158 & 159. Seems confusing. Some pros, many
cons. Will copy, very informative. Thanks doc.
This is not original. The idea has been around since the 70s - check US Patent 4069665.
Simple lang naman ang hinihingi ng mga tao - real world data - proof that it works based on the scientific method.
Data data data, where is the data?
Post it here for all to see.
But we all know that won't happen
because if you actually did have factual, proven data we would not be having this discussion here.
Because we all know that if you actually have proof, an actual working demonstration, you'd probably be in Europe, Japan, or America right now because rest assured, someone there is very very VERY interested in what you have to show.
*eudaemonia
- which do you think is logically easier to do or to show?
a. 9 page presentation of scientific research plus video of how the principle works
.....or
...............
b. 1 pc of half size bond paper that shows the dyno result of before use and after use of your product?
hmmm,...let me guess your answer......is it....
option a?i thought so,too....
Last edited by pobreparin; May 27th, 2012 at 09:03 AM. Reason: update
Ano ulit yung Nuvitron? Gas saving device?
Meh. Anong pinagkaiba niyan sa ibang fuel saver na hindi naman gumaganda. Nakakasira pa nga ng engine.
Kagatin niyo na yung offer ni GH. Dalhin niyo sa speedlab, dun niyo i-kabit yung nuvitron whatever. Hayaan niyo makita ni GH procedure. Tapos kapag totoo nga yung claims... sige, baka maski tsikot community eh i-recommend yan. Pero kung hindi, aba eh.. wag na kayo mag-aksaya ng panahon.
Simple lang pananaw ko dito, if your product really works, do you honestly think that big car companies wouldn't be clamoring for whatever technology you've got there?
If on the off chance that you have found something that car manufacturers who spend billions of dollars on R&D didn't, don't you think that you shouldn't be having such a hard time selling your product? Sila pa magbabayad sayo para bilhin idea mo.
I would never buy anything for my car that isn't scientifically proven with cold, hard quantitative results.
Here's fyi. We belong to a third-word country. Thus, third-world import quality products. Notice the additives and whatnots whenever you fill your tanks even from the gas stations? In other countries, petrol is petrol, and diesel is diesel. Nuvitron is not to take away the traditional design of the engine, but to optimizt the use of fuel. I do hope though that you get to distinguish this invention from other products hyped by politicians (because they were financed by the same) that caused only the destruction of your engines. Ours is a non-intrusive technology. Nothing to tamper in the make-up of whatever vehicle you have.
So what? Those are just brand marketing for the stuff they already put into the fuel including stabilizers and detergents.
Wrong! It has been proven by 3rd parties that in other countries including 1st world countries, grades of petrol and diesel differs. From the supermarket brand to the high street. Basically you get what you paid for.In other countries, petrol is petrol, and diesel is diesel.
Kindly back-read this discussion thread for valid points that have been left unanswered by your predecessor.Nuvitron is not to take away the traditional design of the engine, but to optimizt the use of fuel. I do hope though that you get to distinguish this invention from other products hyped by politicians (because they were financed by the same) that caused only the destruction of your engines. Ours is a non-intrusive technology. Nothing to tamper in the make-up of whatever vehicle you have.
And if you are sure of your device, why not give it a REAL dyno-test check for actual function? Take it as an investment in product certification.
As I have mentioned before, I have seen similar products which claim to ionize the intake air but none have lived up to their claims when it came down to actual controlled testing.
Last edited by ghosthunter; May 28th, 2012 at 08:00 PM.
So ano nga gagawin nung tao ng Nuvitron?
Claim endlessly na gumagana product nila without doing an actual test done by a 3rd party shop?
How could anyone believe that?
Dude 5k lang dyno sa Speedlab, sige let's say around 10-15k magagastos mo all in all.
It's nothing compared to the profit you will gain if ever bumenta ang nuvitron, with credible proof to show mas marami maniniwala, fewer will doubt.
Siguro ayaw mo because you're afraid that your claims will be disproved. Nabawasan na nga ng 15k bangko mo, napahiya ka pa..
Pero if you have nothing to hide... do it. Kung makitang may claims on a controlled environment, I could even be one of your customers.
yung mga gadget na ganito... parehong-pareho lang sa mga binebentang herbal medicines kuno dito sa atin. since wala naman talaga masusing testing na pinagdaanan, kaya they are required to put "no proven therapeutic effect" sa packaging nila. at isa pa, kagaya rin ng mga gadget na ito.... ang mahal-mahal din, mas mahal pa minsan sa mga branded vitamins. so you pay a premium for minimal gain.
if only they will accept the challenge for a dyno and found it to be true, they have a captured market here. it doesn't make sense why they won't subject the product for a dyno. except of course, if it is a scam.
Still waiting for that full sized dyno you guys supposedly had at speedlab that you have on your blogspot. But we already know the answer to this, it's not going to appear.
MODERATOR'S NOTE:
I have merged the threads with similar discussion, namely the NUVIMAX/NUVITRON fuel saving device.
Have a nice day.