NUVIMAX Electromagnastatic Fuel/Air Mixing System [MERGED]

[renzo_d10]

dito talaga ako natawa eh

'98 KIA Pride 1.3L
highway driving, nlex: 20-25k/ltr
traffic/edsa: : n/a
tested by DOST-DOE-ITDI on October,2008
(With dual-technology device)
fc before device installation: 12-14k/ltr

Note: we can fill our tank w/ 50% regular and 50% special; (Pls do not do this on an 'unaided' car. tnx

:hysterical:

nilagyan pa ng 50% special whatever. kalokohan talaga. kung gusto mo maging ok yan sa mga bibili, dapat kung ano yung ginagamit ng iba yun din gamitin nyo sa test car nyo

100% unleaded

wala nang special special kuno

siguro yan yung gas sa UFO

[ghosthunter]

Hay naku... di pa nga tapos yung usapan sa NUVI-NUVI thread mo, dito ka naman nanggugulo.

vetetablejoe,jaime, we had not received any feedback that the NUVITRON destroyed an engine. Siguro, dahil around 500 lang ang naikabit namin. The KHAOS will work beautifully if you are on EDSA. If you will travel to Pagudpud, that's a different story. Most troubles occur when you are ascending.

Wag ka na mag-magaling. Khaos operates on the principle of vacuum pressure to "regulate" the air-fuel mixture. In theory, the Khaos device is bypassed whenever the car is moving. The Khaos gadget only operates during the engine's IDLE time, where (supposedly) a valve opens to feed more air to the engine, leaning out the air/fuel mix and saving fuel. So the more the car is idling during it's normal operation (like in traffic) is should save more fuel than if the same car is driven on the highway to Pagudpud.

In practice in the real world, the settings are not followed and the installer simply leans out the engine all the time resulting in lower power, no savings in fuel and potential long term engine damage. Also the crude internal construction (and lack of proper manufacturing tolerances) of the Khaos gadget would also hamper its own normal operation. Hence, it does not work as claimed.

You can also refer to TONY's fuel saving website. He posted my findings on the Khaos gadget long long time ago.

here is a link if you can't find it: Fuel saving gadgets - a professional engineer's view: KSTC

We used 2 different cars in the test because the Galant had a leak. The engineers said that to save time we should use our kia for the economy run. Since two devices are already installed on the kia, they decided to do the economy run in reverse order. First, test with device/s, then test after removing. Di agad nawala ang effect ng NUVIMAX as shown on the unusual data. Dapat when without devices is 12-14 k/ltrs

Excuses.

Scientific testing should be:
1. without the device (taken as a baseline)
2. with the device (to see any changes due to the device)
3. without the device (to counter-check if it matches with the baseline)

Any engineer or scientist worth his college degree would know this.

Anyway, I submitted the NUVIMAX to Engr Tony of UK. Isang buwan na, wala pang sagot. The NUVIMAX is a two-device-in-one innovation, kaya wala pa siyang naimbentong scientific explanation to debunk it.

Wala ka din scientific explanation to prove your gadget's claims. Pseudo-science is not an acceptable explanation.

Your own documents shows your device INCREASE pollution while you claim it should reduce emissions.

[iceblueyes]

Mag Milk Tea ka na lang TS! Mas may future ka dun. Pwede pa kita i-refer sa nagdala dito ng Moonleaf. :bwahaha:

Nakakatamad basahin mga mahahabang post ni TS kasi babarahin lang din nila uls, GH, etc..

baka pwede niya gamitin yung nuvi-nuvi gadget niya sa milktea.
Isipin mo pwede niya i daan electromagnecticultrasoundingchorva yung tea at milk para pwede sila mag bond in a molecular level. Baka mas maging masarap yung flavor.


Seriously to the TS:
Sir, your documentation is lacking; Your "testing runs" leave much to be desired; Your explanations makes no sense. You make it sound like everyone is against you but in all actuality it is you who is stopping yourself from succeeding.
Even with the benefit of the doubt that your invention works, you refuse to do the work to actually make that a successful product.
You have no documents explaining the science behind the principle of your device, you have no data to prove that that principle actually works. You have seriously pathetic amount of data from testing in a field where DATA DATA DATA and repeatable tests with similar outcomes reign supreme as proof. You keep waving your "I was certified by the Department of Ek Ek" flag around; SERIOUSLY that is not impressing anybody.

If you want to prove us wrong, do the goddam work

[light2light]

GH, wala namang nanggugulo at nagyayabang, a. walang personalan, bro. I only explained why there are two cars used in the test.

I read tony's article about the khaos in '06. marami ang nagsasabing maganda ito sa edsa. Even ms. ruth abao of dzrh claimed that she saved up to 30% on her car. Other anecdotes-When a friend traveled to Pagudpud, they experienced overheating problems. Marami na rin akong nabasa sa ibang blog tungkol sa khaos, I guess you've read them, too.

Your scientific testing method of A-B-A coincide with the EPA test protocol. UP-VRTL tests use the Japanese 10-15 mode driving cycle. There will be 3 trials per engine condition (without and with the device) and the results average. (A-B). If they will implement the A-B-A test protocol like what you suggest, the transition between B-A will result in errors because when the device/s are removed, a long residual effect is still present. You have to use the car for an undermined length of time until the effect reverts to zero. Baka kulang yong 25K para sa isang car if we will insist that A-B-A will be implemented.

Sir, I admit that the ETV tests is flawed and I will discard it, the ICT?, not just yet. thanks

[dvldoc]

You can also use LPG to get some great power and fuel economy gains on any turbo diesel engine. I run both on mine, With the LPG kicks on you feel the kick. Not something for the amateur to set up but not rocket science either. Very simple to make a kit for under 6500p and there is no BS science behind it. Like this product. It's low cost and a tank last for months.

[ghosthunter]

Your scientific testing method of A-B-A coincide with the EPA test protocol. UP-VRTL tests use the Japanese 10-15 mode driving cycle. There will be 3 trials per engine condition (without and with the device) and the results average. (A-B). If they will implement the A-B-A test protocol like what you suggest, the transition between B-A will result in errors because when the device/s are removed, a long residual effect is still present. You have to use the car for an undermined length of time until the effect reverts to zero. Baka kulang yong 25K para sa isang car if we will insist that A-B-A will be implemented.

That is just more excuses.

If you use a car with modern EFI, just reset the ECU before each test. That would be enough.

With carb cars, simply pulling off your gadget is enough to get back the baseline results IF there wasn't any other modification done to the engine.

[light2light]

GH, Download ko reply mo. Good reading, instructional. No fuss about wai; I saw the wai website and many are using it.

I am willing to drop the ETV statement, qalas; but the ICT? not just yet.

This is my proposition: Let's install the device/s on a gasoline car ('08 or earlier, carb or efi), Run the car to Cabanatuan or San Jose City and back to MM and see the fc. Is this the proper procedure for an economy run?. If it will not work, I will be silent on the ICT, forever. If it works, no preconditions. Fair enough?

[uls]

You keep waving your "I was certified by the Department of Ek Ek" flag around; SERIOUSLY that is not impressing anybody.

tingnin niya ma-i-impress niya mga tao dito dahil may certification ang invention niya from some govt agency

[dvldoc]

The product does not work, your own dyno testing shows it proves no extra power during normal operating rpms. What's the point. If the product has not been proven after 3 years of threads on it it's not going to be. It's just like HHO threads they go nowhere because you guys can never prove the fuel economy gains period. What I do I can prove it works every time on a dyno. If you don't increase power you cannot increase fuel economy significantly. And the only other way is to lean your fuel out but your testing does not even have the know how to use a Air fuel ration gauge to see the actually claimed effect on a vehicle that's basic tuning 101.

How are you guys going to convince anyone when you don't know these basic things. If testing was serious you would use a OBD-2 scan tool with data logging that would log the TPS signal, injector pulse with, rpms, and mpg. You want the world to use this but cannot provide the most basic testing or data. Unbelievable. Sorry most people are not going to put untested back yard mechanic gadgets on there second most expensive possession.

This is a example of real testing. These scan tools cost next to nothing these days and can hooked to a android phone. This is what serious people do.

No water injection


with water injection. But these can apply to any aftermarket add on that claims a power increase.

[eudaemonia]

Hi Team. Requesting you stike off the bidding from your signature, because what you reply with are anything but "All the best". Reflective it is of the myopic minds there are here. Very evident with the masses of all long gone in history's forgotten. Your names, maybe just for 10 years tops? So enjoy while it lasts.

Best regards,

eudaemonia

[chua_riwap]

^ noted.......

[renzo_d10]

^ noted.......

paki-explain ano sinabi niya pls...

[chua_riwap]

paki-explain ano sinabi niya pls...

kaya nga noted na lang.....

OT
user name nya.....you demonia?

[sirkosero]

nose bleed

[jut703]

I think the point that he's trying to drive home is, "sige pagtawanan niyo produkto ko, ang kikitid ng mga utak niyo, di niyo nakikita na ikauunlad/ikasisikat ko 'to. Tipong tagumpay na hindi niyo makakamit dahil mga gunggong lang kayo na bahagi ng masa. Kung uunlad man kayo, panandalian lang."

[chua_riwap]

^ yun nga sir eh.
sana tinagalog na lang.......

[jut703]

Tagalog, Yoda knows not.

[ghosthunter]

Hi Team. Requesting you stike off the bidding from your signature, because what you reply with are anything but "All the best". Reflective it is of the myopic minds there are here. Very evident with the masses of all long gone in history's forgotten. Your names, maybe just for 10 years tops? So enjoy while it lasts.

Best regards,

eudaemonia

I strongly suggest for you to lay off using words that seem too big for you to use correctly. if you cannot use the english language properly, it might be suggested to use tagalog. Otherwise you just come out sounding like a total "trying-hard".

BTW, the people of tsikot.com has never been your "team". We have been here before you and will probably be here long after you have forgotten about us.

And given how the internet "remembers" everything, our words here will probably outlive us all.

have a nice day, Eudaenomia.

[kaeru618157]

Akala ko hindi ko lang talaga maintindihan. Malabo pala talaga

[light2light]

GH, "simply pulling the gadgets is enough to get back to the baseline results" is too simplistic;

Quote: Excerpts from ETV
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Vehicle ' Baseline ' W/ Nuvitron ' %Fuel efficiency
gasoline engine ' w/o device '
--------------------------------------------------------------------'--------------------------
98KIA Pride 1.3L ' 20.94K/l ' 23.78K/l ' 13.56%
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Our baseline should be 13+K/l; pero 20.94k/l sa baseline ng ETV. Why? I still think that it is due to residual effect of the devices. Nakakabit na ang dual-devices nuon. Nang pinatanggal, napakataas pa rin ang baseline namin.

Pls take note of the unusually high baseline. Wala tuloy naniwala sa inyo, but it is in the records for all to see. Kahit idisregard niyo ang dyno at emission test, something is there that could not be easily explained. Thank you