Which pickup should I choose this 2020?

**LN106G** · February 21st, 2020 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by dplgngr

Di ko naman gagamitin pang harabas. Mabigat din kunsomo ng 4x4

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That's a wrong notion po. It does not apply to all. remember that some of the models you mentioned have the same eng for the 4x2 and 4x4. The Hilux and the Dmax are the only exception as their 4x4 models have higher eng displacement while the rest have the same engine. These ute's are also part time 4WD's and unless you engage their 4WD mode, they are running 4x2 most of the time. The weight difference between a same model brand 4x2 vs 4x4 is not that significant. parang isang tao lang kung sakali. These utes are NOT fulltime all-wheel drive also (where fuel consumption is an issue). Between the Hilux and the Navarra, the Hilux probably has lesser creature comforts but far capable when it comes to loading capacity (HIlux with rear leafsprings vs the Navarra's rear coils) and real-world 4WD use. On paper, the Navarra wins. But longterm use will somehow see the Hilux dominate this segment because of enormous aftersales support and aftermarket upgrades

**kingsindian67** · February 21st, 2020 02:32 PM

Is the Toyota Hilux Conquest 2.4 belt drive or chain drive ?

Kasi po yung bagong Strada na 4N15 ang engine ay naka chain drive na,so if yung

Hilux G 2.4 at Conquest 2.4 ay belt drive pa rin, siguro mas Strada na ang pipiliin ko.

**thearsenal1205** · February 21st, 2020 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by kingsindian67

Is the Toyota Hilux Conquest 2.4 belt drive or chain drive ?

Kasi po yung bagong Strada na 4N15 ang engine ay naka chain drive na,so if yung

Hilux G 2.4 at Conquest 2.4 ay belt drive pa rin, siguro mas Strada na ang pipiliin ko.

Chain drive na ang 2GD-FTV 2.4L engine ng Hilux Conquest

**LOLZ** · February 21st, 2020 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by kingsindian67

Is the Toyota Hilux Conquest 2.4 belt drive or chain drive ?

Kasi po yung bagong Strada na 4N15 ang engine ay naka chain drive na,so if yung

Hilux G 2.4 at Conquest 2.4 ay belt drive pa rin, siguro mas Strada na ang pipiliin ko.

GD engines are timing chain na din unlike the previous gen KD series na belt driven ung camshaft or L series na lahat belt driven

**thearsenal1205** · February 21st, 2020 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by LOLZ

GD engines are timing chain na din unlike the previous gen KD series na belt driven ung camshaft or L series na lahat belt driven

pati din yung 1KZ-TE at yung C engine series belt drive sila
even the old 4D56 including the DI-D 4D56 is belt driven.

**LOLZ** · February 21st, 2020 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by thearsenal1205

pati din yung 1KZ-TE at yung C engine series belt drive sila
even the old 4D56 including the DI-D 4D56 is belt driven.

I find it weird that toyota bothered to use timing gears for the injector pump but used a belt to drive the camshaft in the 1kd/1kz

**thearsenal1205** · February 21st, 2020 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by LOLZ

I find it weird that toyota bothered to use timing gears for the injector pump but used a belt to drive the camshaft in the 1kd/1kz

maybe to reduce engineering costs?

**dplgngr** · February 21st, 2020 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by yapoy86

Yes.. standard po yan. May commission na ibibigay si bank of your choice sa dealer

Go for toyota conquest.. blue

Isa pa toyota hilux hindi mukhang fortuner.. like the rest of the competition na same or almost same ang front fascia.. lalo na yung dmax at mux.. magkaMUXha talaga..

One of the things I also consider is the looks, how would it look 5-10 years from now. I think the Conquest looks classic and would still look good after 5 years.

Originally Posted by 3GEMS

4x2 lang ang Hikux Conquest? Puro aesthetic pala.

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I don't really feel the need of a 4x4.

Originally Posted by StockEngine

Please share the discounts for both. we would love to know... I would get the VL just coz of the safety and comfort... I wouldnt drive it though. Masarap ang meron driver sa traffic.

THIS! On my Nissan Sylphy, mas comfortable ang back seat.

Nothing outrageous offers as of the moment. Eto pa lang so far:
Nissan Navara VL 4x4 AT
P35k Down
P33,944/mo (60 mos)

Nissan Cap
Rain Visor
Solar Guard/3m Tint
Full Tank Diesel
FREE LTO registration
FREE Matting
FREE EWB (not sure if EWB or EWD as in early warning device)
FREE Air Freshener
FREE Bedliner
FREE TPL
FREE Comprehensive Insurance
FREE Chattel Mortgage
FREE Tools

Personally not really worth the difference kung mag Bank Pull Out ako which is at 20% downpayment at 34.13% interest, around P26k monthly for 60 years.

Originally Posted by LOLZ

hinde naman ganon katakaw ung 4x4 kumpara sa 4x2 kung parehas sya magreact sa Previous-gen AU spec navara(D40) na same 2.5 engine

Model	City	Hwy	Combined
NP300 2.3 190 HP 4x4 7AT	11.24	16.95	14.29	km/l
NP300 2.3 190 HP 4x2 7AT	11.63	17.54	14.71	km/l
D40 2.5 190 HP 4x4 5AT	9.35	13.89	11.76	km/l
D40 2.5 190 HP 4x2 5AT	9.43	14.29	12.04	km/l

well atleast kung pagbabasihan ung Test cycle results nila (ADR city:19kph average ADR hwy:120kph peak 63 kph avg)
Green Vehicle Guide Home
converted from l/100km figures

Medyo matakaw on my perspective, although my only point of comparison is my manual trans Nissan Sylphy which runs at 11-12kpl at 15-17kph. If it's at 11.24kpl at 19kph, hmmm I think it sounds reasonable pala, so around 10-10.5kpl at 15-17kph.

15-17kph is my daily average speed.

**dplgngr** · February 21st, 2020 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by LN106G

That's a wrong notion po. It does not apply to all. remember that some of the models you mentioned have the same eng for the 4x2 and 4x4. The Hilux and the Dmax are the only exception as their 4x4 models have higher eng displacement while the rest have the same engine. These ute's are also part time 4WD's and unless you engage their 4WD mode, they are running 4x2 most of the time. The weight difference between a same model brand 4x2 vs 4x4 is not that significant. parang isang tao lang kung sakali. These utes are NOT fulltime all-wheel drive also (where fuel consumption is an issue). Between the Hilux and the Navarra, the Hilux probably has lesser creature comforts but far capable when it comes to loading capacity (HIlux with rear leafsprings vs the Navarra's rear coils) and real-world 4WD use. On paper, the Navarra wins. But longterm use will somehow see the Hilux dominate this segment because of enormous aftersales support and aftermarket upgrades

Huh? You're right on this. Never really bothered double checking the curb weight. Checking the Navara 4x4 VL AT vs 4x2 EL Calibre AT, around 2 medium sized adult din ang difference pero I think that's minimal pa din.

As for aftermarket sales and support, dalawa yung Nissan dealership namin dito with different ownerships while Toyota as 4 Casas (2 Dealerships, 1 upcoming dealership, and 1 body and paint casa) pero iisa lang may-ari so I guess we won't benefit with the competition if i go with Toyota. Ang dami ding Navara dito sa amin compared to Hilux, so I would assume dadami na rin ang parts and services.

**avidangler** · February 21st, 2020 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by yapoy86

Yes.. standard po yan. May commission na ibibigay si bank of your choice sa dealer

Go for toyota conquest.. blue

Isa pa toyota hilux hindi mukhang fortuner.. like the rest of the competition na same or almost same ang front fascia.. lalo na yung dmax at mux.. magkaMUXha talaga..

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