Need opinions on which to buy

[charles jeison]

Pano po makapagpost?nakalagay po kasi no permission daw po ako thanks

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[minicarph]

Saw the Subaru Outback. It is spacious and refined, however, the roof line is too low for me. View from the drivers seat is like a sedan. Unlike the Forester wherein you have a commanding view of the road due to the large windows and taller roof line. Yung Outback parang station wagon on stilts.

The Carnival meanwhile is a great family vehicle but parang kulang as an all purpose vehicle. Kailangan din ng konting sanayan since it is rather long. Baka mahirapan si misis na i-drive.

Since I am looking for an alternate vehicle/family/all purpose vehicle. At this time mukhang Pajero best bet ko. Problem ko lang is the waiting time is about 2-3 months according to both Diamond and Union Motors casa. Pumila na ako for reservation. But then, again marami pa pwede mangyari during that time, hehe.

Pajero talaga the best. I bought one for the very reason na hinde ko kaya bumli ng LR Defender. the thing is kasi dito sa tin masyado tayo fascinated sa LR Defender kasi it's like for Safari, pero yun pala South Africans and Middle Easterns, patay na Patay sila sa Pajero BK kasi ang perception sobrang tibay ang Japanese car na ito. did you know that Pajero can run even with the dirtiest diesel na makukuha sa desert or sa African Junglem ganun katinde ang Pajero engine, watch youtube videos about this, in fact, talo pa nga ng Pajero ang Land Rover sa durability daw. Land Cruisers well it's for the rich Arabians and South Africans but the Pajero is is the 2nd best nila talaga para pang harabas sa African continent.

so hayun, kung ayaw mo FJ, mag-Pajero. you'll never go wrong with this tank of a car.

i clean engines too, you 'll be surprised how simple the engine layout of the Pajero vs. sa mga mga bago diesels ngaun like Korean crdis and new PPVS. sabiko ito lang yun laman neto engine pero sobrang powerful ah. yun mga PPV dami pa complex design pa, pero Pajero sobra simple yet sobrsng useful

[Walter]

Regarding the CX-5, isn't it a bit overpriced for the TOTL at 2.2M considering the CRV is it's contemporary?

The Mazda CX-5 starts at 1.550M ... it's just the diesel variant that's a bit overpriced ... the interior quality is quite good though ...

[Shutterbug]

Hmmm. I believe mas mahirap idrive ang pajero sa carnival. Mas mataba ang width. Mas malambot pa steering ng carnival

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Considering Kia Carnival's price and style/classification.... isn't the Honda Odyssey a much better buy?

[StockEngine]

Considering Kia Carnival's price and style/classification.... isn't the Honda Odyssey a much better buy?

diesel ang kia. ang honda van hindi. huge factor...

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[Junichiro]

Considering Kia Carnival's price and style/classification.... isn't the Honda Odyssey a much better buy?

If you put a premium on safety and convenience features, Odyssey. If you prioritize space, power and efficiency, Carnival.

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[minicarph]

para sa kin kahit anong soccer mom van, never na ako bibile. I had the Chevrolet Venture before, good riddance. I hate driving the body style van. parang kang buntis, although male naman ako di po na experience ma buntis. pero panoorin nyo ulet ang MR. and Mrs. smith ni Brad Pitt, may sinabi si Brad Pitt dun eh tungkol sa van nila, tawang ako ng tawa

[niky]

If you put a premium on safety and convenience features, Odyssey. If you prioritize space, power and efficiency, Carnival.

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The Carnival doesn't lack for safety features, if you're comparing like price to like price.

Also... the base 11-seater model is a downright steal at under 2m.

The Odyssey is cramped in comparison, and the rear suspension is too stiff. The stiffness is excuseable in a sports sedan like the Accord, but in a people carrier like the Ody, it's out of place. The GC rides much better, and handles just as well as the Odyssey. And the diesel 2.2 is a much better engine than the gasoline four-cylinder in the Honda.

The Grand Carnival is a reasonably good buy compared to other premium MPVs, if you're looking for an MPV.

A toy it is not, though.

[GTi]

^I've always believed that Honda PH made a bad decision when they decided to replace the USDM Odyssey with the smaller JDM Odyssey. It feels like USDM Odyssey : Sienna and JDM Odyssey : Previa.

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[Junichiro]

The Php2.2M 7 seater model still makes do with 2 airbags, and doesn't have Stability Control, which is already present in many mid-spec PPVs. The odyssey, on top of these, has a blind-spot monitoring, 360-view camera etc.

It would have been a runaway winner if they loaded it with Odyssey-level features, even it pushes up the price to match the Odyssey.

I have been reading a lot about the suspension of Odyssey being rather unrefined. Just how bad is it?

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[Jun aka Pekto]

para sa kin kahit anong soccer mom van, never na ako bibile. I had the Chevrolet Venture before, good riddance. I hate driving the body style van. parang kang buntis, although male naman ako di po na experience ma buntis. pero panoorin nyo ulet ang MR. and Mrs. smith ni Brad Pitt, may sinabi si Brad Pitt dun eh tungkol sa van nila, tawang ako ng tawa

If you're referring to soccer moms still driving minivans, you're a few years behind the times. Nowadays, they drive fast 3-row SUVs and CUVs such as the Pilot and GMC Acadia.

[glntVR]

The Php2.2M 7 seater model still makes do with 2 airbags, and doesn't have Stability Control, which is already present in many mid-spec PPVs. The odyssey, on top of these, has a blind-spot monitoring, 360-view camera etc.

It would have been a runaway winner if they loaded it with Odyssey-level features, even it pushes up the price to match the Odyssey.

I have been reading a lot about the suspension of Odyssey being rather unrefined. Just how bad is it?

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Actually ride is okay, my dad and bro-in-law has the Odyssey. No complaints on the ride quality.
I've taken it to out of town trips with friends seated at the back, they were actually very comfortable.
My only complaint on the suspension is it's a bit noisy on bumps.

For the price, the Odyssey is a good buy. It's loaded with features, has enough space for a small family.

[GTi]

According to Kia PH's Grand Carnival brochure, the 3.3V6 variant has all the safety features mentioned above, and it seems like Doc BJ has no problem with fuel consumption either.

Though personally, I'm fine with the safety features the diesel has. Heck, the only safety features I require are brakes that bite, seatbelts and probably ABS and side impact beams. 😅

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[Hamrid33]

How about considering a totally different option? A sport sedan perhaps. If I have something around that budget, I would spoil myself and get a Lexus IS350.

Different option is a good idea. Which can you offer?

[babyishcare]

If I had a good PC, I don't think I'd ever choose Xbox over PC.
But, the simplified combat system seems a better fit for consoles. I'm personally not a fan. Having played Chivalry, I felt like the combat was lacking a certain freeness and depth. And with Mordhau and Mount & Blade 2 coming out, I can't really justify buying the game.
You do you. It seems like a much more laid back game, so console's probably the better choice.

[minicarph]

If you're referring to soccer moms still driving minivans, you're a few years behind the times. Nowadays, they drive fast 3-row SUVs and CUVs such as the Pilot and GMC Acadia.

if that's trend there in america, tapos mga guys dito sa Philippines buying Alphards and Minivans. lol

[lowslowbenz]

Nowadays, they drive fast 3-row SUVs and CUVs such as the Pilot and GMC Acadia.

Oh yeah, yung asawa ng kaibigan ko sa Texas, Sequoia ang daily driver.

[shadow]

Oh yeah, yung asawa ng kaibigan ko sa Texas, Sequoia ang daily driver.

Hinde ba asawa MO sa texas? [emoji2] dami states ba ng America marami pa kumpletuhin mo.


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[Egan101]

Oh yeah, yung asawa ng kaibigan ko sa Texas, Sequoia ang daily driver.

That is one big truck! More like driving an Armada or Escalade. However, Americans love their big monster SUVs.

[lowslowbenz]

Hinde ba asawa MO sa texas? [emoji2] dami states ba ng America marami pa kumpletuhin mo.


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Haha, loko ka Shadow! ...