Need opinions on which to buy

[niky]

If you put a premium on safety and convenience features, Odyssey. If you prioritize space, power and efficiency, Carnival.

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The Carnival doesn't lack for safety features, if you're comparing like price to like price.

Also... the base 11-seater model is a downright steal at under 2m.

The Odyssey is cramped in comparison, and the rear suspension is too stiff. The stiffness is excuseable in a sports sedan like the Accord, but in a people carrier like the Ody, it's out of place. The GC rides much better, and handles just as well as the Odyssey. And the diesel 2.2 is a much better engine than the gasoline four-cylinder in the Honda.

The Grand Carnival is a reasonably good buy compared to other premium MPVs, if you're looking for an MPV.

A toy it is not, though.