help! Jazz 1.3 AT or Swift AT?

[Jecoism]

My Honda agent adjusted a bit yung insurance (malayan), LTO etc, pero yung Unit price wala talagang discount, that somehow reduced my outlay by around 10k i think. Hingi ka nalang ng freebies if ever like full windshield tint and etc.

I agree with niwde11, Probably low demand to think na medyo luma na yung face ng Yaris, they're giving huge discounts. Or over-pricing it then slashing off huge sa price to make it look like they're giving huge discounts.

[tidus1203]

With honda, you'd be a lotto winner if they ever give you discounts. They don't give discounts as far as I know since I was in your same shoes when I was shopping around for a brand new car to be paid in cash.

Toyota game me 50k discount for my yaris.

Don't know for mazda.

My friend even got P70,000 so yung 1.5 M/T nya naging P633,000 na lang; that was back in June 2009 pero I doubt kung ganun na yan kalaki since kakalabas lang ng facelifted Yaris. What I know is P30,000 off at the very least!

[tidus1203]

Mahal ng Jazz 1.3 liter,yung Yaris eh its kinda dull IMHO..

Mag Suzuki Swift ka nalang.

Eh yung Swift naman ang liit, walang cargo space, tapos malakas pa sa gasolina compared sa Jazz and Yaris. Tapos Suzuki pa meaning lower resales and bad service and after-sales...

[tidus1203]

I have a new question.

Since I intend to pay in cash for a bnew car, how much discount will I get? Or Should I demand for at least 30-40k off the SRP? thanks in advance guys!

Sa Jazz wag ka ng umasa sa discounts, sa MZ2 malabo din yan since new model (although in general Mazda is also generous in discounts but only for old models like Mazda 3). Sa Yaris and Swift (tinangal mo na nga pala ) baka pwede...

[aejhayl17]

Eh yung Swift naman ang liit, walang cargo space, tapos malakas pa sa gasolina compared sa Jazz and Yaris. Tapos Suzuki pa meaning lower resales and bad service and after-sales...

i thought swifts uses toyota engines? engines same with vios and yaris? please do correct me if im wrong

[tidus1203]

i thought swifts uses toyota engines? engines same with vios and yaris? please do correct me if im wrong

I think the Swift's engine was co-developed by Toyota but they are not the same. The Yaris and Vios used the 1NZ-FE engine while the Swift uses M15A...

[tidus1203]

Bumabalik na naman sakit ng Tsikot na double and triple posts!!!

[ghosthunter]

Mahal ng Jazz 1.3 liter,yung Yaris eh its kinda dull IMHO..

Mag Suzuki Swift ka nalang.

Owning a car is more than just "the car". You have to consider how it would fit in your lifestyle. Also the aftersales support quality, is it good or bad. It would affect how you would own the car in the long run.

The Swift is a very small car. Four people and cargo space big enough only for a handbag

And the Suzuki aftersales support can be described in one word, "sucks".

[nurse_corrupted]

My Honda agent adjusted a bit yung insurance (malayan), LTO etc, pero yung Unit price wala talagang discount, that somehow reduced my outlay by around 10k i think. Hingi ka nalang ng freebies if ever like full windshield tint and etc.

I agree with niwde11, Probably low demand to think na medyo luma na yung face ng Yaris, they're giving huge discounts. Or over-pricing it then slashing off huge sa price to make it look like they're giving huge discounts.

Current 30k discount is the standard discount AFAIK. Fact is honda doesn't give any, even for their civic fd that is one of my options last 2007.

Pero overpricing it then give a huge discount to make it look like discounted? I don't know about that. As I've said, if the Yaris and Jazz 1.5L A/T has a price difference of 10-15k, then I'll go for the Jazz without a question. But 100k peso difference? That's going overboard.

The price of Yaris can only get you a 1.3L Jazz.

Bang for the buck? Yaris, no doubt.

If the TS got money to burn and wants the 60/40 rear split seats and rear disk breaks, then the 1.5L AT Jazz it is.

If we compare at price point: 1.5L Yaris vs 1.3L Jazz, we have a clear winner if we compare the spec sheets. Numbers don't lie.

If we compare the exterior, on what is more beautiful? That is based on opinion.

[jozef_10]

a friend bought a jazz last month - no unit discount. if you really want a head turner, it definitely is going to be the mazda 2 because it's new in the market.

i had the chance to drive a jazz 1.3 m/t and a yaris (1.5) a/t. for me i had more fun driving the yaris because it's small and nimble. i just don't like the instrument panel being in the center.

[tidus1203]

Oh you'll get used to the center dash in a short while a lot of Pinoys did anyway (Vios the common car in this country also has a center dash)

Ako talaga pag may pera lang talaga that I can easily throw without regrets I would like to buy the Queen Mother of all sub-compacts. The Mini Cooper! IN MY DREAMS!

[Jecoism]

Current 30k discount is the standard discount AFAIK. Fact is honda doesn't give any, even for their civic fd that is one of my options last 2007.

Pero overpricing it then give a huge discount to make it look like discounted? I don't know about that. As I've said, if the Yaris and Jazz 1.5L A/T has a price difference of 10-15k, then I'll go for the Jazz without a question. But 100k peso difference? That's going overboard.

Ah you'll never know how the wonders of marketing can affect your purchase decision. Haven't you ever wonder why Toyota always make you think that there is always this "discount" you get that is, as you've said "standard"?

Reminds me of this price tag I saw in Divi:

[p_borj]

I don't like Hondas actually, pero para kay Mam TS, Honda Jazz 1.5 A/T ang nababagay sa kanya hehe. Sporty but.. this car is meant for girls lang talaga IMO.

Swift - I think para sa isang sporty guy ito nababagay.

Yaris - I think para naman sa tamang sporty lang hehe.

[nurse_corrupted]

We can claim any time we want that Toyota's may overpriced their cars so customers can get huge discount. It's like claiming Pacman is using PEDs. In short, we are not 100% sure.

It may or may not be the case but it won't deny what is perceived. Honda 1.5L Jazz A/T * 832k offers no unit discount. Toyota 1.5L Yaris A/T * 766k offers 30 - 50k disount. And that are figures.

It depends on the TS what she value most. What we are doing is presenting opinions and figures to give her some situations that she can deal with when buying a brand new car.

1. If we are comparing both 1.5L Jazz and Yaris, I'd go with the Jazz in a heartbeat, but the price is just too prohibitive.
2. Comparing on pricepoint: 1.3L Jazz A/T * 772k no unit discount compared with 1.5L Yaris A/T * 776k with 30k discount, I'd go to the Yaris here. A 1.5L engine that is much cheaper compared to the 1.3L of the Jazz. Spec wise between this two cars, Yaris is a clear winner. Price wise and value wise.

[ghosthunter]

But buying a car is more than a pricetag attached to an engine and four wheels.

You are also buying an image or lifestyle. This is especially true with the Jazz with its bigger and more versatile interior. Fold FLAT rear seats create a cargo space volume in the rear that would rival a SUV.

The extreme cab forward design also gives the Jazz the feeling of even more interior space.

[eunice*59]

Whoa! I'm surprised to see how fast moving this thread has become. I really, really appreciate everyone's comments, suggestions and concern.

Ghosthunter, right on. There's really more to buying a car.

At first I was just going to buy a 2nd hand car. I thought I just need a vehicle to get me from point A to point B. But then all the canvassing etc. has led me to realize that since this is my first car, worked hard to save for the past 5 years, might as well get the brandnew. Thanks to all of you, now I've looked into the bigger picture and not just ocused on the aesthetics and the price.

[tsupermario]

the versatility of the jazz is hard to beat, and it comes with a higher price tag

[eunice*59]

^ Tumpak!

Oh by the way, spoke with my Honda agent yesterday and he said No discounts since this is a scheme often used by other dealers - give the buyers a discount, make them feel as if they had a "good deal". When in fact they just overpriced the SRP. Very tiangge style of selling. No offense to those who were able to get a discount

I can get the following for free:

- full 3M tint (including windshield)
- rust proofing
- parking sensor
- driver's sun visor w/ mirror (it's not offered in the 1.3L variant, girls gotta have a mirror )

[nurse_corrupted]

I wish you luck. The posters have their own preference but with the above suggestions such as:

1.5 Swift A/T
1.5 Jazz A/T
1.3 Jazz A/T
1.5 Yaris A/T
1.5 Mazda A/T

You wouldn't go wrong with any of these brands. As posted, they have all their pros and cons regarding your preference on: aesthetics, versatility, cargo space, price, performance.

It's up to you and it is you who will ultimately decide what is the car that fits your needs and your lifestyle.

We wish you luck and congratulations on your eventual choice. What is sure is you wouldn't go wrong choosing a brand new car over the used one.

Good luck!

[p_borj]

Mam Eunice, bigyan ko po kayo ng quote :

Choose what you love, then love what you have chosen.