Cost of 5yr Ownership: CRV Diesel vs Gas

**theblob** · March 17th, 2018 08:18 PM

When I let go of gas naffeel ko yung paghina ng engine.

**StockEngine** · March 17th, 2018 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by theblob

When I let go of gas naffeel ko yung paghina ng engine.

fuel injectors are off.

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**Wh1stl3r** · March 17th, 2018 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by diehard

The Honda 1.6 i-dtec has been around since 2013 and has proven reliable in Europe for both the CRV and Civic. More problematic has been the ZF 9-speed which has given headaches not only to Honda but also to Acura and FCA in various applications. There have been a deluge of customer complaints about lurching, rough shifting and even gear disengagement. Have diesel CRV owners in this forum noticed these problems that have plagued other ZF 9 speed equipped vehicles abroad?

Probably none yet as these are still fairly new. The only minor lurching reported so far happens
1. When you partially let go of the brakes from a full stop and ride them to creep.
2. When coasting on level ground and it downshifts, the engine RPM rises by a few 100.
Granted it's not as smooth as the Jatco made ones but so far, so good.

Originally Posted by theblob

When I let go of gas naffeel ko yung paghina ng engine.

Is this in D on level ground or going downhill sir?

**diehard** · March 17th, 2018 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r

Probably none yet as these are still fairly new. The only minor lurching reported so far happens
1. When you partially let go of the brakes from a full stop and ride them to creep.
2. When coasting on level ground and it downshifts, the engine RPM rises by a few 100.
Granted it's not as smooth as the Jatco made ones but so far, so good.

Is this in D on level ground or going downhill sir?

The downshifting while coasting and the subsequent rise in rpms seems to be a common complaint. Unfortunately, it looks like this is natural for this AT. Hopefully, the disengagement problem (which is potentially dangerous) has been resolved in the units sold in the PHL.

**Walter** · March 18th, 2018 07:52 AM

Originally Posted by claytonyu

Honda is not known for its diesels and therefore we wouldnt know yet whether or not their diesel is reliable. Also I am not sure if a 1.6 diesel is too small for the CRV, as I hear many people say its underpowered.

Honda has been making diesel engines for decades in other countries ... as for the 1.6 liter engine ... it's a balance of fuel efficiency and power ...

**theblob** · March 19th, 2018 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r

Probably none yet as these are still fairly new. The only minor lurching reported so far happens
1. When you partially let go of the brakes from a full stop and ride them to creep.
2. When coasting on level ground and it downshifts, the engine RPM rises by a few 100.
Granted it's not as smooth as the Jatco made ones but so far, so good.

Is this in D on level ground or going downhill sir?

Level ground. As a driver parang feel ko nasusubsob ako paharap whenever I take my foot off pero hindi yata naffeel ng passengers yung makina kasi wala naman complaints so far.

I used to drive an automatic Altis, when I let go of gas, it just coasts normally, pero ito feel mo talaga na parang humihina yung engine. As long as it won't create problems, sanayan nalang siguro.

BTW nahirapan siya paakyat ng basement parking on D, dapat yata I shifted to S noh? Tapos lowest gear?

**yapoy86** · March 20th, 2018 12:13 AM

Originally Posted by theblob

Level ground. As a driver parang feel ko nasusubsob ako paharap whenever I take my foot off pero hindi yata naffeel ng passengers yung makina kasi wala naman complaints so far.

I used to drive an automatic Altis, when I let go of gas, it just coasts normally, pero ito feel mo talaga na parang humihina yung engine. As long as it won't create problems, sanayan nalang siguro.

BTW nahirapan siya paakyat ng basement parking on D, dapat yata I shifted to S noh? Tapos lowest gear?

Mas ramdam lang talaga sa diesel yung engine brake.. pag bitaw mo ng accelerator medyo may subsob ka agad mararamdaman.. sa gas halos wala yan unless high revving ka tapos biglang bitaw

Paano mo nasabing nahirapan sa D? Hindi ba makaakyat kahit mag rev ka? Minsan need to rev higher than normal para maka bwelo yung torque converter

**GTcervan** · March 20th, 2018 01:25 AM

Originally Posted by yapoy86

Mas ramdam lang talaga sa diesel yung engine brake.. pag bitaw mo ng accelerator medyo may subsob ka agad mararamdaman.. sa gas halos wala yan unless high revving ka tapos biglang bitaw

Malamang siguro sa torque ng makina yan, which is typical of turbo crdis.

**Walter** · March 20th, 2018 07:22 AM

If you are on sport mode, it will do that ... usually eco modes will let you coast ...

**theblob** · March 21st, 2018 02:40 PM

Will try turning on Eco Mode.

We had a 2010 Diesel Montero Sport which wasn't like that kaya naninibago ako.

Thing is, hindi naman siya consistent. Minsan merong subsob minsan wala.

On D, I almost had to floor it kasi kala ko titirik pero natagalan lang yata pag shift ng gear. On the next try I just did S tapos first gear, problem solved.