Cost of 5yr Ownership: CRV Diesel vs Gas

[StockEngine]

Honda Publishes PMS pricing

Which One is Cheaper to Own? Honda CR-V 2. S Gasoline or Honda CR-V 1.6 S Diesel | Philippine Car News, Car Reviews, and Prices | ************

[papi smith]

A CRV "coding car", i'm impressed.

[dr. d]

wag na lang siguro crv.
something cheaper.
"changing the rules".
heh heh.

[kagalingan]

hinahype na naman honda philippines yang crv diesel....

nagbayad pa sa ************.....

Ano klase diesel ba yan para gumastos consumer for 1.9milyones.... for that price bagay ba sa itsura?????

natawa talaga ako pag naalala ko na magiging top 3 daw behind fortuner and montero.....

pagandahin muna itsura bago mangarap....

mahaba pa ba pila..... imaginary pila

[teegust]

Seriously kung mahaba pila sa CRV bakit parang mas marami pang Vitara sa road kesa sa CRV. kahit anong variant ng CRV parang bibihira sa daan. tapos ang dami nila ads kahit sa top gear na maganda daw CRV and all. pero pag nakita mo na yun price vs specs parang Iphone lang ang pricing. lol

[jut703]

Seriously kung mahaba pila sa CRV bakit parang mas marami pang Vitara sa road kesa sa CRV. kahit anong variant ng CRV parang bibihira sa daan. tapos ang dami nila ads kahit sa top gear na maganda daw CRV and all. pero pag nakita mo na yun price vs specs parang Iphone lang ang pricing. lol

The new CRV sold ~2,500 units from November-December. That's more than what the old CRV sold in a whole year.

Suzuki has not released official sales 2017 figures for the Vitara, so you can't make a proper comparison. You only speak from what you see, which is a sample size of one. I can simply say that I see more CRVs than Vitaras (and I really do). So which one of us is telling the truth? Unless we have official sales figures to validate, it's mere speculation and your word against mine.

natawa talaga ako pag naalala ko na magiging top 3 daw behind fortuner and montero.....

Sino nagsabi? I've read many comments here that say that the CRV will sell well, but nothing as outwardly ambitious as saying it will become the 3rd best-selling SUV in the country.

But again, selling 2,500 units in 2 months is as good a pace as the other PPVs. Too early to tell though if it can sell as well as the PPVs on a full-year basis. Though looking at it from a different angle, the CRV has dominance over the small crossover market which struggles to even sell 1000 units per brand for an entire year.

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[boylabo]

Seriously kung mahaba pila sa CRV bakit parang mas marami pang Vitara sa road kesa sa CRV. kahit anong variant ng CRV parang bibihira sa daan. tapos ang dami nila ads kahit sa top gear na maganda daw CRV and all. pero pag nakita mo na yun price vs specs parang Iphone lang ang pricing. lol

Isang vitara pa lang nakikita ko dito sa Cebu since the release. Ang CRV ang dami na.

[StockEngine]

its just newly release. nagkalat talaga mga experts online.

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[StockEngine]

underpowered kuno [emoji28]

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[GTcervan]

Sana they placed a much larger turbodiesel engine, around 2000cc, which is almost similar to the diesel cx5 that costs around 2 million.... Wait, 2 mil for that diesel cuv pero wala namang nagrereklamo sa price tag, samantala yung cr-v ang daming nagsasabi na hindi raw ideal yung diesel variant nang dahil lang sa presyo. Lol bat ganun. 😂

[jut703]

While the 9 speed auto of the diesel sounds really good, I wouldnt really go for the diesel as of now, while its new. Honda is not known for its diesels and therefore we wouldnt know yet whether or not their diesel is reliable. Also I am not sure if a 1.6 diesel is too small for the CRV, as I hear many people say its underpowered. Haven't tried it though. For me, although I dislike the gasoline variant as well I would say that its the "safer" choice as of March 2018.

Those who say the CR-V diesel is underpowered are most likely basing from paper specs and haven't driven or don't own the CR-V diesel.

I've driven it and the drivetrain is adequate thanks to the low-end torque and clever 9-speed AT. Ask people who own the diesel (like Whistl3r) to have a more valid opinion on the CR-V diesel's performance.

We have the 2.0S and it's much thirstier than the diesel (5-8 km/L city driving vs 11-15 km/L for the diesel).

Sana they placed a much larger turbodiesel engine, around 2000cc, which is almost similar to the diesel cx5 that costs around 2 million.... Wait, 2 mil for that diesel cuv pero wala namang nagrereklamo sa price tag, samantala yung cr-v ang daming nagsasabi na hindi raw ideal yung diesel variant nang dahil lang sa presyo. Lol bat ganun. [emoji23]

Wala kasing pumapansin sa CX5 kaya wala ring bashers online. That's all noise though - what's important to look at are the sales numbers.

Between the two, di hamak na mas mabenta ang CRV diesel kaysa CX5 diesel.

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[Wh1stl3r]

While the 9 speed auto of the diesel sounds really good, I wouldnt really go for the diesel as of now, while its new. Honda is not known for its diesels and therefore we wouldnt know yet whether or not their diesel is reliable. Also I am not sure if a 1.6 diesel is too small for the CRV, as I hear many people say its underpowered. Haven't tried it though. For me, although I dislike the gasoline variant as well I would say that its the "safer" choice as of March 2018.

I had the same thoughts before. That it might be unreliable and underpowered. But Honda's 2.2L diesel in the last generation CR-V in other markets was pretty reliable. If you do a search on that engine's issues you'll find next to nothing and that normally means nothing bad to report. So it has been established that Honda can make durable diesel engines. The reason for downsizing to 1.6L had more to do with improving weight, FC and NVH.

As for the engine's power, it's quick enough. It can definitely keep up with most PPVs. In gear acceleration isn't that great but with the 9at it doesn't really matter. As long as you don't force it to stay in one gear for too long, it accelerates well. This is from someone who thinks a chipped last gen Navara with a 3" exhaust is just quick enough (for a pickup).

People who own one already know how frugal it is, but what's amazing (but never mentioned) about the 1.6L diesel is the weight. Having such a small displacement all aluminum engine makes for a light front end. It corners really well for a CUV with a softly sprung and (relatively) long travel suspension. I mentioned in the CR-V thread a while ago that while going up some uphill corners nearby, I left a tailgating PPV quite easily. And it never really nosedives on hard braking.

While the gas version isn't as efficient, it trumps the diesel in purchase price, maintenance cost and smoothness. The CVT is a lot smoother than the 9at which is a little bit jerky compared to even older a/t's from say Hyundais or Nissans/Jatco. The engine note of the gas version is just so much nicer compared to even this relatively quiet diesel. There's also that tiny bit more vibration that can still be felt on the steering wheel. And if you don't need 7 seats the gas variant has a lot more luggage space. Even with the 3rd row folded down on the diesel there is not a lot of space for luggage.

If I had a nit to pick it would be the steering feel at higher speeds. It's not overly soft at speed but not really tight enough either. I just prefer a tighter feel. At slow speeds you can tell the ratio is also a little slow, but with it being so light it isn't really an issue.

If you are in the market for a crossover I suggest you at least do a test drive.

[diehard]

I had the same thoughts before. That it might be unreliable and underpowered. But Honda's 2.2L diesel in the last generation CR-V in other markets was pretty reliable. If you do a search on that engine's issues you'll find next to nothing and that normally means nothing bad to report. So it has been established that Honda can make durable diesel engines. The reason for downsizing to 1.6L had more to do with improving weight, FC and NVH.

As for the engine's power, it's quick enough. It can definitely keep up with most PPVs. In gear acceleration isn't that great but with the 9at it doesn't really matter. As long as you don't force it to stay in one gear for too long, it accelerates well. This is from someone who thinks a chipped last gen Navara with a 3" exhaust is just quick enough (for a pickup).

People who own one already know how frugal it is, but what's amazing (but never mentioned) about the 1.6L diesel is the weight. Having such a small displacement all aluminum engine makes for a light front end. It corners really well for a CUV with a softly sprung and (relatively) long travel suspension. I mentioned in the CR-V thread a while ago that while going up some uphill corners nearby, I left a tailgating PPV quite easily. And it never really nosedives on hard braking.

While the gas version isn't as efficient, it trumps the diesel in purchase price, maintenance cost and smoothness. The CVT is a lot smoother than the 9at which is a little bit jerky compared to even older a/t's from say Hyundais or Nissans/Jatco. The engine note of the gas version is just so much nicer compared to even this relatively quiet diesel. There's also that tiny bit more vibration that can still be felt on the steering wheel. And if you don't need 7 seats the gas variant has a lot more luggage space. Even with the 3rd row folded down on the diesel there is not a lot of space for luggage.

If I had a nit to pick it would be the steering feel at higher speeds. It's not overly soft at speed but not really tight enough either. I just prefer a tighter feel. At slow speeds you can tell the ratio is also a little slow, but with it being so light it isn't really an issue.

If you are in the market for a crossover I suggest you at least do a test drive.

The Honda 1.6 i-dtec has been around since 2013 and has proven reliable in Europe for both the CRV and Civic. More problematic has been the ZF 9-speed which has given headaches not only to Honda but also to Acura and FCA in various applications. There have been a deluge of customer complaints about lurching, rough shifting and even gear disengagement. Have diesel CRV owners in this forum noticed these problems that have plagued other ZF 9 speed equipped vehicles abroad?

[GTcervan]

Those who say the CR-V diesel is underpowered are most likely basing from paper specs and haven't driven or don't own the CR-V diesel.

I've driven it and the drivetrain is adequate thanks to the low-end torque and clever 9-speed AT. Ask people who own the diesel (like Whistl3r) to have a more valid opinion on the CR-V diesel's performance.

We have the 2.0S and it's much thirstier than the diesel (5-8 km/L city driving vs 11-15 km/L for the diesel).
Wala kasing pumapansin sa CX5 kaya wala ring bashers online. That's all noise though - what's important to look at are the sales numbers.

Between the two, di hamak na mas mabenta ang CRV diesel kaysa CX5 diesel.

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Pero honestly, for a 5 seater, sobrang overpriced talaga ang skyactive-d na cx5. Ok na sana if it was larger than it currently is pero hindi eh.

Yung 2.2 is also the one that came from ford, right? Pero tuned by mazda themselves kaya mas malakas.

[StockEngine]

Pero honestly, for a 5 seater, sobrang overpriced talaga ang skyactive-d na cx5. Ok na sana if it was larger than it currently is pero hindi eh.

Yung 2.2 is also the one that came from ford, right? Pero tuned by mazda themselves kaya mas malakas.

the 2.2 is mazda in-house developed.. its not the duratorq from ford.

overpriced? now this is a niche...

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[Egan101]

The CRV will please more people with its comfort-oriented ride and amenities. It does not market itself as sporty but it is a reliable people mover. That is why it sells.

If you want a CUV that drives well like a compact car, the CX5 will appeal to you. If you want out right performance and lots of AWD grip, go with the Forester XT.


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[redled]

Hopefully no vibration/shaking like the last two previous generations. Baka kaya naglabas ng diesel para hindi mahalata.


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[StockEngine]

Hopefully no vibration/shaking like the last two previous generations. Baka kaya naglabas ng diesel para hindi mahalata.


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wrong reason.. diesel nilabas kasi yan ang malakas bumenta sa pinas.

how many fortuners were sold last year? almost 40,000 units.

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[jeyulo]

Between CRV and HRV which is better in terms of comfortability and fuel efficiency?

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[mda]

Between CRV and HRV which is better in terms of comfortability and fuel efficiency?

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Comfort - CRV

Fuel efficiency - CRV Diesel > HRV > CRV Gas