Battle of the Transmissions: M/T vs. A/T

[Bengbeng]

Imo lang po mas ok ang a/t pag city driving lalo na pag abutan ka ng rush hour dto sa atin sa metro manila. Pero in long driving nabibitin ako sa a/t buti nalang may sportronic yung akin kahit papano hindi masyado hirap sa overtaking lalo na sa provincial roads na mabilis ang takbuhan. Galing akong m/t pero papipiliin mko a/t sakin dahil sa traffic dito sa atin. Yun lang sakin sir.

[Excalibur]

that is the common notion before.... pero dumadami na din male na gusto A/T.

TRUE!

MT na mga kotse namin simula elementary pa ako at nakiki alam sa mga kotse ni erpats. Kaka sawa na din at ka ngawit lalo na sa inclined at trafk.

Now that im buying and maintaining with my own money, AT na. Relax pa!

[brynne]

hays, problem ko din to, girl pa naman ako, kaka-start ko lang matutong magdrive, at gusto ko talagang mahasa sa manual, hehehe..pero yung iba sabi mag-A/T na lang daw ako, nyahaha, gusto ko rin ng A/T para relax lang...naguguluhan tuloy ako

[JohnM]

hays, problem ko din to, girl pa naman ako, kaka-start ko lang matutong magdrive, at gusto ko talagang mahasa sa manual, hehehe..pero yung iba sabi mag-A/T na lang daw ako, nyahaha, gusto ko rin ng A/T para relax lang...naguguluhan tuloy ako

Get an AT for your daily drive then learn how to drive an MT via a driving school. Di ka pagod sa araw-araw pero kung kelangan mag-MT kaya mo pa rin. IIRC some driving schools have 1-2 hour "refresher" courses to keep skills from getting rusty. Another option is to look around for car rental companies that allow you to drive the car yourself.

Personally I miss driving an MT especially on long highway trips. Then I get stuck in traffic and thank myself I got an AT

[swim_fatale]

Same predicament as brynne. I'm also a female newbie driver who can't decide between A/T or M/T. I know how to drive M/T thanks to my driving school but I'm not very good at it. I recently bought my first car, a 2nd hand '92 Toyota Corolla XE (small body) and although it's a good buy, mabigat syang i-drive for a newbie like me. I'm now planning to buy a brand new A/T car. Problem with A/T is, I'm worried about the FC and whether it can go through flooded streets. Low budget pa naman ko, I can only (barely) afford a Celerio or a Picanto..

[Arshxd]

Hate ATs. They're too boring to drive, unlike an MT where you're always busy. With practice, shifting becomes second nature and i'd say it's barely more tiresome than driving an auto. The difference is that it's much harder to text and drive with an MT, which I find is very tempting to do with an AT because one of my hands is free. Just go into neutral in traffic if it's tiring to hold down the clutch for so long. Hill starts: handbrake -> half-clutch + half-throttle -> release handbrake, Simple.

[niky]

You can certainly make calls on a cellphone with a manual. And eat fast food. And a million other things.

[JohnM]

Yeah like the Adventure driver who cut me off this morning because his cel was on his left and he had to shift and turn with his right hand only

[Arshxd]

You can certainly make calls on a cellphone with a manual. And eat fast food. And a million other things.

But you need to be a very skilled driver to do that though. A first-time driver would never think to do that unless you were in an AT.

[TheGreenThing]

Half clutch will result more clutch wear

[Retz]

A/T for daily/traffic drive and M/T for weekend sunday drive.

[Arshxd]

Half clutch will result more clutch wear

At first, once you get the hang of it you can use less throttle each time. I used to use 3000 rpm in a 1.3L Honda City, much easier than balancing it on the throttle and clutch.

[jjmd3_787]

a/t for leisure and heavy traffic driving, m/t for kick ass driving

but i'm comfortable with both. the only obvious difference is that a/t maintenance is much costly

making a call thru your celfone and eating your fave snacks are acceptable BUT texting while driving is a big NO NO !

[Michael Garcia]

to sum it all
flexibility and control MT
convenience AT

other factor car sharing mas flexible ang automatic
mas madali ipahiram ang AT

MT cars are cheaper
better fuel economy which is dependent on driving style
theoritically maintenance lamang ang MT

hirap lang talaga masyadong pampered tayo dahil technology is offering convenience kaya nagtatabaan tayo
MT offers konting additional calories burn

pero minsan convenience has its perks
kunwari nasprain ang left ankle mo sa basketball. pwede ka pa rin magdrive ng AT

[Toniboy]

Bakit sinasabi ng iba mas malakas daw umarangkada ang mt sa at? Sa tingin ko naman pareho lang sila dalawa. Pag magoovertake ka gamit ang AT magbaba ka lang ng 2 gear tapos apak na sa gas. Same lang naman sa manual diba?


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[Arshxd]

Usually less yung powerloss sa MT vs conventional AT because MT transmissions are directly connected to the drive wheels while conventional AT transmissions use a torque converter. The torque converter itself can be thought of as joint between the engine and an AT transmission. Imagine the connection between engine and transmission as 2 shafts, in between these shafts is a thick fluid. When the shaft from the engine spins, the fluid also starts to spin, this then makes the shaft going to the transmission also spin.

While this allows an AT to make smooth starts without need for a clutch, spinning the fluid in the torque converter wastes engine power when compared to the direct connection of a MT. This wasted power is power that could have gone into making the car accelerate faster, hence the advantage.

That's why some cars like Fords with "Power Shift" transmissions instead use a dual clutch transmission. Which in effect it is a MT transmission that is operated via computer so that it acts like a conventional AT. The downside of these however as it won't be as smooth as a conventional AT.

One final note is that all transmissions are not made equal. Each transmission can be made to give more acceleration or more top-speed, this greatly affects acceleration and fuel consumption. top-speed setup transmission usually give better fuel consumption than acceleration setup transmissions, because of this some AT transmissions are given topspeed oriented gearing compared to their MT versions to match their fuel consumption, in exchange for slower acceleration.

Hope that helps but correct me if im wrong.

[Retz]

Bakit sinasabi ng iba mas malakas daw umarangkada ang mt sa at? Sa tingin ko naman pareho lang sila dalawa. Pag magoovertake ka gamit ang AT magbaba ka lang ng 2 gear tapos apak na sa gas. Same lang naman sa manual diba?


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ang notion kasi naka 'D' ung A/T. pero pwede naman ilagay sa lower gear.

[Toniboy]

Usually less yung powerloss sa MT vs conventional AT because MT transmissions are directly connected to the drive wheels while conventional AT transmissions use a torque converter. The torque converter itself can be thought of as joint between the engine and an AT transmission. Imagine the connection between engine and transmission as 2 shafts, in between these shafts is a thick fluid. When the shaft from the engine spins, the fluid also starts to spin, this then makes the shaft going to the transmission also spin.

While this allows an AT to make smooth starts without need for a clutch, spinning the fluid in the torque converter wastes engine power when compared to the direct connection of a MT. This wasted power is power that could have gone into making the car accelerate faster, hence the advantage.

That's why some cars like Fords with "Power Shift" transmissions instead use a dual clutch transmission. Which in effect it is a MT transmission that is operated via computer so that it acts like a conventional AT. The downside of these however as it won't be as smooth as a conventional AT.

One final note is that all transmissions are not made equal. Each transmission can be made to give more acceleration or more top-speed, this greatly affects acceleration and fuel consumption. top-speed setup transmission usually give better fuel consumption than acceleration setup transmissions, because of this some AT transmissions are given topspeed oriented gearing compared to their MT versions to match their fuel consumption, in exchange for slower acceleration.

Hope that helps but correct me if im wrong.

Diba ang powershift ng ford ay dual clutch transmission? Katulad ng transmission ng bagong focus. DCT na sya kaya parang manual na din sya kahit automatic?


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[Arshxd]

Diba ang powershift ng ford ay dual clutch transmission? Katulad ng transmission ng bagong focus. DCT na sya kaya parang manual na din sya kahit automatic?


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Yes it is, so parang manual din yung hatak nun. Yung only downside ata is that mas mabigat yung dual-clutch na AT. Yung smoothness niya sa pag shift at paggalaw, depende po sa softare ng manufacturer.

[Toniboy]

Yes it is, so parang manual din yung hatak nun. Yung only downside ata is that mas mabigat yung dual-clutch na AT. Yung smoothness niya sa pag shift at paggalaw, depende po sa softare ng manufacturer.

Ok thanks


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