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May 1st, 2015 08:03 PM #41
Not that many yuppies get to buy 900k-peso cars with their first jobs... A more apt-profile would be "son of an upper middle-class/wealthy family that was given a college car/grad gift by his parents".
I've driven the Fiesta and it's definitely a better driver than the Altis, even if it doesn't come in manual. The torque is what makes it special, as you'd be surprised to be buried in your seat with such a little motor.
But again, it looks too small for its price. I want a car that looks as expensive as it costs, and the Fiesta just fails miserably there. If I had a CUV in my garage, this would be a good backup car. But as my sole daily drive, I need something that looks more upscale.
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May 1st, 2015 08:16 PM #42
Last year, my wife and I were looking for a car and we were considering compacts. After test-driving the Fiesta Ecoboost, I was sold! The torque just brings smiles on my face. It has the deceptive looks of a boring small car but once you take it for a drive, you'd know Ford took some tips from Ken Block and infuse it into the car.
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May 1st, 2015 08:21 PM #43
Ok... checked... yes, it appears you're right. AT only... not CVT. Even got the time slightly wrong: 12.9s.
We had the Altis 1.6 CVT last year, though. Officially, we didn't do a 0-100 test, because our track was only 200 meters (with 100 meter run-off for braking tests), but for cars that hit 100 before the braking zone, I recorded times, anyway. Altis 1.6 CVT: 12.8 seconds. That's with two on board, so say 12.4 with just the driver.
Not sure why it was faster in their test. Might be down to break-in, or it could be the CVT just doesn't like being torque-braked, and responds differently. Found out (only after COTY) that the Brio launches faster if you just mash the gas, rather than torque-braking it. Then there is also the possiblity of weather differences.
Do note... the time differential to the 2.0s is deceiving... you can actually torque brake the Focus and Corolla 2.0 for 9+ second 0-100 times. The Mazda3 2.0R should do 100 in about 10 seconds when launched. (We got 10.3 with our tests).
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The Elantra time from C! is pretty close to what we got. 11.6 for the Elantra 6AT... very good transmission, actually. Shifts smoothly and quickly. Almost as well as the Mazda 6-speed.
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Can't imagine how the braking data could be that far off... everything else seems proper. Might be the data gathering procedure was to blame?
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May 1st, 2015 08:44 PM #44
Interesting, I didn't expect the Elantra to be quite a decent performer. What confounds me are the Altis' 0-100 times (from 11.37 to 12.8). Can't imagine why C! would report an erroneous time for the Altis 1.6 so I'd assume that was their honest to goodness measurement.
In any case, I'd be happy to lend my MT Altis (if I push through with it) for a set of Vbox runs to see what time the manual can really set.
Ultimately though, differences of half a second don't matter much in 2-lane highway overtaking. A quick transmission with the right ratios and minimal power loss is more crucial for my use. Save for Subaru's CVT and Ford's clunky DCT, I think a conventional manual still performs better than any other AT/CVT in this price range.
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May 1st, 2015 08:49 PM #45
How about nissan sylphy 1.6 m/t or the 1.6 cvt even the top variant 1.8 cvt maybe?
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May 1st, 2015 08:50 PM #46
The ix25 is just around the corner. That should be around a million. And it's really fresh and would maintain novelty 5 years from now.
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May 1st, 2015 10:21 PM #47
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May 2nd, 2015 12:29 AM #48
Actually, reviewing even the acceleration data, I'm wondering if even that might be affected by whatever device or app they're using for testing. Who wrote that article? I'll ask my friends at C! about it.
Given how heavy "compact" cars are nowadays, tough luck finding any 1.6 sedan that will hit 100 in less than 10 seconds.
From our testing and my driving impressions, there's some sort of delay in acceleration when coming from a stop. For all new auto-equipped Hondas. Seems like it's there to either protect the transmission or perhaps aid in getting better fuel economy numbers on EPA and NEDC tests. This adds anywhere from 1 to 2 seconds to the 0-100 times.
Especially disappointing with something like the Accord V6 (adds approximately 1 second compared to the Nissan Altima)... which is otherwise a fantastic sports sedan, and feels faster than the Nissan once you're in second gear or higher.Last edited by niky; May 2nd, 2015 at 12:36 AM.
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May 2nd, 2015 12:37 AM #49
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May 2nd, 2015 12:59 AM #50
Ardie Lopez was the lead writer for the article, while Georges Ramirez was in charge of the testing.
I agree that compacts today seems to have gotten heavier. The Altis, Sylphy, Elantra and Civic have their manuals at around 1200 kg. But then again, they're much bigger than their predecessors.
If the Altis 1.6 could do 10.5s on a hard launch, I'd be happy. All I know though is that past 140 kph, it easily out accelerated my Ranger back then on an open stretch of STAR Tollway. Then again, I've made do with a 1.3L 4AT with only 85 kph for the past few months - any additional power and responsiveness is much appreciated.
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