850k-1M Budget - Your Opinions?

[jut703]

Looks like the TS has his mind set on the Altis from the start, and none of the suggestions here can sway that towards the alternatives. Its human nature, if you really like something your mind looks at the other options but your heart has already decided. Its a clear sign that the Altis is "the one" for you, so go grab it.

The Altis is a good choice anyway. Congrats!

Yeah I've been pretty set with the Altis from the get-go. But I appreciate the ideas thrown in since it helps me strengthen my conviction on getting the car. 2 cars I didn't pay attention to before - the Civic 1.8S and Elantra 1.6S, will now be getting second looks to see if it'll be worth the extra 100k over the Altis.

Might delay the purchase a bit until I get to test drive these 2 alternatives. Might even throw in another test drive of the Mz3 1.5 just to give it another shot. But right now the Altis still feels like the best match for me.

[tylerdude]

With the requirements you have laid out, i think the altis 1.6MT is the perfect choice at that price range. If you are willing to shell out a little bit more and prefer manual, i would suggest you consider the volkswagen jetta which i think is around 1.1M (not sure but you can check best price with discount) The car is big, has good torque and commands respect on the road.

[ruelle41]

Like the Accent's motor but not the chassis it comes with? Hmm, how about the crdi Kia Soul then? Just to add to your alternatives.

Drove my friend's 06 Civic FD 2.0s and 14 Altis 1.6V, was more comfortable with the Altis (obviously) but I would still rather drive the Civic. If the FB is at least close to that, then I'd advocate that. Plus you wouldn't be just another Altis on the road. No offense to Altis owners though, there's a good reason why they're so many.

[niky]

Like the Accent's motor but not the chassis it comes with? Hmm, how about the crdi Kia Soul then? Just to add to your alternatives.

Drove my friend's 06 Civic FD 2.0s and 14 Altis 1.6V, was more comfortable with the Altis (obviously) but I would still rather drive the Civic. If the FB is at least close to that, then I'd advocate that. Plus you wouldn't be just another Altis on the road. No offense to Altis owners though, there's a good reason why they're so many.

The FB is more like the old Altis than the Altis is. Soft. No steering feel. Lots of body roll.

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Like the Accent's motor but not the chassis it comes with? Hmm, how about the crdi Kia Soul then? Just to add to your alternatives.

Drove my friend's 06 Civic FD 2.0s and 14 Altis 1.6V, was more comfortable with the Altis (obviously) but I would still rather drive the Civic. If the FB is at least close to that, then I'd advocate that. Plus you wouldn't be just another Altis on the road. No offense to Altis owners though, there's a good reason why they're so many.

The FB is more like the old Altis than the Altis is. Soft. No steering feel. Lots of body roll.

[gwapster]

Like the Accent's motor but not the chassis it comes with? Hmm, how about the crdi Kia Soul then? Just to add to your alternatives.

Drove my friend's 06 Civic FD 2.0s and 14 Altis 1.6V, was more comfortable with the Altis (obviously) but I would still rather drive the Civic. If the FB is at least close to that, then I'd advocate that. Plus you wouldn't be just another Altis on the road. No offense to Altis owners though, there's a good reason why they're so many.

Seems there are just as many Civic FBs on the road as there are current-gen Altis, at least where i usually go.

[keithdb]

Bihira ako makakita ng civic fb dito sa pasig ortigas area. Yung altis ang marami.

[jut703]

The FB is more like the old Altis than the Altis is. Soft. No steering feel. Lots of body roll.

That's a shame. I loved the FD's steering - made the car feel much smaller and lighter than it really was.

Last night, I parked next to a facelifted FB and stared long and hard to see if it'll captivate me. Unfortunately, the longer I looked at it, the more it looked like a City. Better looking than the City, but with lots of awkward angles especially from the rear. The interior is still beautiful though.

Like the Accent's motor but not the chassis it comes with? Hmm, how about the crdi Kia Soul then? Just to add to your alternatives.

Drove my friend's 06 Civic FD 2.0s and 14 Altis 1.6V, was more comfortable with the Altis (obviously) but I would still rather drive the Civic. If the FB is at least close to that, then I'd advocate that. Plus you wouldn't be just another Altis on the road. No offense to Altis owners though, there's a good reason why they're so many.

I'd pick the Accent over the Soul, the latter just looks outright weird for me, with no sense of class whatsoever.

I agree that the Altis is more ubiquitous than other compacts (it's the best seller in its class after all), but standing out isn't too difficult with a few mods since most keep their Altises stock.

With the requirements you have laid out, i think the altis 1.6MT is the perfect choice at that price range. If you are willing to shell out a little bit more and prefer manual, i would suggest you consider the volkswagen jetta which i think is around 1.1M (not sure but you can check best price with discount) The car is big, has good torque and commands respect on the road.

I'm a fan of the Jetta too - very torquey engine and nice transmission, plus solid handling. What I didn't like was its bare interior and exterior that didn't feel like a million pesos. At that price range, the Mazda 3 2.0 is a much better choice for me.

[gwapster]

Btw, has anyone driven a Peugeot 301? This will turn heads, and has enough French quirkiness to be different from the crowd. However, I havent driven one yet so I have no opinion on how it drives. It is quite new locally.

[StockEngine]

Btw, has anyone driven a Peugeot 301? This will turn heads, and has enough French quirkiness to be different from the crowd. However, I havent driven one yet so I have no opinion on how it drives. It is quite new locally.

its a budget subcompact. grossly overpriced.

[gwapster]

its a budget subcompact. grossly overpriced.

I was expecting the "overpriced" part, Euro import kasi. I feel the same for the Volkswagens here. Very bare yung mga sub 1M na VW dito, they look much cheaper than the japanese competition.

However, i see the dilemma the importer faced here. Either they put generous standard equipment and raise the price further up, OR strip it down to be able to keep the price close to the Asian competition. Obviously they chose the second option. At the end of the day, its for the most part due to the tax overhead that goes to the frickin Customs.

But again, i havent driven any of those budget Euro subcompacts yet, maybe they have their sort of charm in some ways.

[damn111]

altis ang porma!

[sientobente]

When the Mazda 3 went out in the middle of last year, it gave me second thoughts when I got the Altis a few months earlier. But now, I think the Altis is and will always be a safe choice. My regret now though was, I should have gone for the 1.6V instead of cheapening out by getting a G.

[niky]

its a budget subcompact. grossly overpriced.

Two mode cruise control, Bluetooth, stability control, steering controls, parking sensors, etc.

Not bad considering it's only a bit more than the Accent.

Also, size-wise, it has a longer wheelbase than any subcompact. 2652mm. The big boy in the class, the City, is at 2600. The Corolla is 2670.

The Pug is also wider than all the other small cars. And it has a 500 liter boot. It's more an intermediate size than a small car, really.

Considering ALL diesel sedans carry a price premium, the HDI 301 is actually okay.

The gas variant, though... Uh...

[kimbon]

When the Mazda 3 went out in the middle of last year, it gave me second thoughts when I got the Altis a few months earlier. But now, I think the Altis is and will always be a safe choice. My regret now though was, I should have gone for the 1.6V instead of cheapening out by getting a G.

+1, I liked the 1.6V that comes with start/stop buttons.
btw I always read that " Altis is a safe choice? what exactly do you mean? are Mz3, Sylphy, ford etc...not safe brands???

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When the Mazda 3 went out in the middle of last year, it gave me second thoughts when I got the Altis a few months earlier. But now, I think the Altis is and will always be a safe choice. My regret now though was, I should have gone for the 1.6V instead of cheapening out by getting a G.

+1, I liked the 1.6V that comes with start/stop buttons.
btw I always read that " Altis is a safe choice? what exactly do you mean? are Mz3, Sylphy, ford etc...not safe brands???

[Walter]

For the general public / non-car enthusiasts, Toyota is a more reliable brand than the others. Cheaper parts, easy to find parts, great resale value, etc.

[jut703]

+1, I liked the 1.6V that comes with start/stop buttons.
btw I always read that " Altis is a safe choice? what exactly do you mean? are Mz3, Sylphy, ford etc...not safe brands???

What I like about the V is the Bluetooth connectivity. I ignore a lot of calls when driving because of the safety risk, which would be greatly mitigated if hands-free calling was available.

I had the push start in our old Altis, it gets boring after a while, not really different from having a key. In any case, the V doesn't come with a manual so it's a no-no for me.

Toyota is a safe choice because they're generally reliable, with a wide dealer network, low PMS costs, easily available parts outside the casa (for common models), and has very high resale value relative to other brands.

In our office, 4 out of 5 people with Focuses (current gen and prev gen) have already replaced their DCT. Mazdas are generally reliable, but brand image is still poor. Berjaya is doing a good job rebuilding it with their Yojin3, competitive pricing, and rapidly expanding dealer network, but perception is never an objective affair. Nissan has lost its 90's glory and is regarded only as a brand with cold aircon.

[dr. d]

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push start?
some cars were like that 50 or so years ago.. there must have been a reason why they transfered the start switch to the key..
now it is going back to push-start again..

[Syuryuken]

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push start?
some cars were like that 50 or so years ago.. there must have been a reason why they transfered the start switch to the key..
now it is going back to push-start again..

pwede ng hulaan edad mo doc :peace:

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push start?
some cars were like that 50 or so years ago.. there must have been a reason why they transfered the start switch to the key..
now it is going back to push-start again..

pwede ng hulaan edad mo doc :peace:

[gwapster]

Two mode cruise control, Bluetooth, stability control, steering controls, parking sensors, etc.

Not bad considering it's only a bit more than the Accent.

Also, size-wise, it has a longer wheelbase than any subcompact. 2652mm. The big boy in the class, the City, is at 2600. The Corolla is 2670.

The Pug is also wider than all the other small cars. And it has a 500 liter boot. It's more an intermediate size than a small car, really.

Considering ALL diesel sedans carry a price premium, the HDI 301 is actually okay.

The gas variant, though... Uh...

Finally a comment on the 301 with objectivity. Thanks for the enlightenment.

[StockEngine]

saw two videos of 1.6cvt accelerating to 100 in less than 10seconds... I wonder if the manual can beat that.