4x2 MUX or 4x2 Everest

[vinrem]

We had an old 1st gen everest before around a decade ago and the cost of pms for 10k kms was also 10k for that non-crdi suv. So pano magiging mas mura yun kung this time, crdi at puros new features na meron ang new everest? Kaya matatawa ka lang eh.

I also read and heard it also from other owners na mahal daw cost ng pms ng everest, but if you have the money to buy a PPV then you can afford their pms.

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[Eevie]

I also read and heard it also from other owners na mahal daw cost ng pms ng everest, but if you have the money to buy a PPV then you can afford their pms.

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The pms prices vary depending on the casa and what you opt in or opt out of. My 10k PMS for my Everest was around P5,700+ and my 20K was around P12,900+.

[GTcervan]

The pms prices vary depending on the casa and what you opt in or opt out of. My 10k PMS for my Everest was around P5,700+ and my 20K was around P12,900+.

Oh. Mas naniniwala pako dito eh kaysa yung hindi nagbabago yung presyo ng pms pagdating ng 10k, 20k, 30k and so on kms tapos hindi ganun kataas yung price eh we all know na notorious ang ford pagdating sa ganyan.

[minicarph]

Bro, mukhang that's a good comparison. Is it just the pulling power? or the overall driving dynamics (e.g. overtaking, high speed driving, off-roading)? na lamang ang Ford?

By the way how is the PMS/maintenance cost of wildtrak? May impression prn sakin na mahal na ang maintenance and pag outside casa mahihirapan ka sa mga spare parts.

mUx PMS at 1.5T km - P3500
Mux PMS at 5k - ganun din daw pag balik ko

Ranger PMS at 5k - almost 9k ata

So san diff? Sa oil. ford only run fully synthetic, while Isuzu use regular isuzu oil

Dyan talo ng Isuzu ang Ford sa oil lang, others oil filter, air filter siguro difference of P300 mas mahal Ford

In terms of FC, I average 9.2km/liter on the Wildtrak while 12.3km/liter on the bluepower. Considering that ford uses FA oil mas matipid pa din regular oil ng Isuzu. The figures I posted are from my computer trip meter. I dont bother manual compute na since kaya nga diesel na para wala na feel feel ba para ka naka - taxi metro sa fc lol

Ang problema ko ngaun eh yun Ford Explorer ko, kasi average of 35km / 100L , that's like 3km/liter. Tsk tsk eh kasi naman sa gulong sinalpakan ko ng stock tires ng FJ Cruiser, nagka 2 inch lift ako sa rubber pa lang, Dati kasi average ako ng 16km/100L or roughly 6km/liter sa stock tires.

But I tell you these diesels today no match talaga sa Ford V6 even of yesteryears in terms of arangkadahan .

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In terms of maintenance outside warranty / casa, Ford is not expensive. In. fact mas expensive pa nga Honda . my Ford Explorer eddie bauer is one of the cheapest maintenance cars ko , tipong 3k/year or every 10Tkm .

The one that thing I noticed is even more than 10 years ago, solid ang suspension design ng mga Ford. Solid na comfy pa. Unlike with the Japs, solid nga tagtag naman .

Both my ranger and explorer, sarap sumakay and hindi takot salubak

[boylabo]

Ford requires air filter change every 10k kms or 6 months to protect “daw” the turbo plus add ons na hindi kailangan kaya mahal. Owner can opt not to like me. Regular pms cost was around 8-9k. Pag may ibang filters like air, fuel and cabin, it would go up to 12k-16k depending sa casa. Advantage sa ford every 6 months or twice a year ka lang pupunta sa casa. Lesser abala compared sa iba na every 3 months/5k kms.


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[minicarph]

Add ko lang Banawe has like 3 to 4 Big suppliers of Ford Parts, both genuine Motorcraft as well as Replacement American perofrmance parts like Moog and Coniseal among others. And since it's american well catalogued ang parts niya sa mga websites sa us, so easy to cross-reference part numbers sa amazon or even autozone. Pwede mo mapadala dito wait ka lang maybe a month or less.

So nothing to fear with aging Fords, and also There are like 3 or 4 Ford specialsits shops dito satin, even equipped with ford proprietary computer scanners and diagnostic equipments.

Ang galing nga nun dalawa sa FB, naibaba at nabuksan na nila makina nun original facelift Ranger. Dami kasi harabas nun older front fascia ranger, kaya madami na sira. Pero wag ka, nagagawa naman. Gone are the days that only Japs are reliable, now Ford is as splid as reliable too.

[valskie01]

I also read and heard it also from other owners na mahal daw cost ng pms ng everest, but if you have the money to buy a PPV then you can afford their pms.

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baka yung iba sa low downpayment nila na acquired yung PPV nila. kaya sa pms mahal na at kulang na pera dahil sa monthly amortization ubos na.

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[minicarph]

Sa nakikinita ko medyo mas madugo ang bago Fords ngaun vs sa old Ford in terms of parts. For example, I ordered a clutch fan sa banawe. They misquoted me 12k+ daw ang clutch fan, yun pala akala nun shop personnel eh naka everest ako, sabi ko explorer 2005, sa hayun 7500 lang naman clutch fan ng Explorer.

Pero nagtanong tanong naman ako ng avg clutch fan cost mitsu or even toyota sa Banawe, eh around 12k territory din so at par lang with the Ford.

So what Did I learn, since la pa nman 2 years ranger ko, di ko pa problema siguro, pero pag nagaout of warranty na , mas mahal ang mga pyesa ng mga new car models ngaun. Tsk tsk even sa Banawe na yan mapa Toyota pa yan or Ford.

So brace yourselves folks, matinde talaga ang inflation ngaun. If you gonna pay like 45k per month on installment on a new PPV, then like 40k annual insurance divide by 12 months = 3.3k mo, then avg 9k pms every half year or 1500 / month. Then LtO reg pegged at 5k per year or P400 / month .

You are looking at 45k installment + 3.3k inurance + 1.5k PMS + 400 LTO reg = P50k+ monthly cost of owning a PPV. Excluded pa dyan of course, the fuel and carwash cost.

Dapat sumweldo ka ng at least P100k a month net kasi P 50k nasa car na.

[vinrem]

The pms prices vary depending on the casa and what you opt in or opt out of. My 10k PMS for my Everest was around P5,700+ and my 20K was around P12,900+.

That's not bad, nagulat nga ako when a friend said yung 15k pms nya umabot ng almost 20k, sabi ko nga sa kanya baka daming add ons nilagay ang CASA that you can opt out naman.

baka yung iba sa low downpayment nila na acquired yung PPV nila. kaya sa pms mahal na at kulang na pera dahil sa monthly amortization ubos na.

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Maybe or baka yung iba walang idea sa mga add ons that the CASA out into the pms, they should join tsikot para marami silang matutunan hehehe

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[minicarph]

And


Drum shell 5W-30 synthetic oil daw gamit ng ford casa, so by economies of scale laki tubo ng ford dealers in terms of change oil . Tapos gamit pa nila shell lang. eh ang recommended sa lahat ng Ford Engines genuine motorcraft, kasi tama ang timpla sa maselan na ford engine. I tried shell before sa Explorer, mas mahina hatak kaysa sa original Motorcraft Oil.

Eto din napansin ko nun di pa na PMs yun ranger, nun bago. Since new naka motorcraft oil pre-install, nun na service-an naging shell na, medyo humina hatak.

Yan nag badtrip sa casa eh, mag-dictate sila sa PMS pero substandard oil naman lalagay. Eh Shell 5w-30 sobrang general nun. pero charge ka pa nila Tipong P600 / liter eh naka-drum naman, mas okey pa bumili sa Banawe orig Motorcraft FS 5W-30 Na, tipong P400 + lang, tapos talaga naka package. Assured ka . Eh yun drum di mo malaman kung old stock o nahaluan na yun ng hindi masinop na technician.

Yan ang bad trip sa casa, para ka nagpa-install ng Windows sa Cyberzone tapos charge ka ng 2k , eh you can do it yourself sa laptop mo, customize mo pa to your prference.

Change oil di ko alam kung bakit sobrang laki ngaun tipong 9k avg ngaun. Eh ano ba nagbago sa change oil industry, pareho pa din naman since 10 years sgo, milking cow ka talaga sa casa.

Pwede nga i class action lawsuit yan ford eh, dapat orig motorcraft yan yun tipong pagka service mo sa ford casa, yun mga basyo ng oil nasa likod as proof





Eh hinde eh pati plastic ngaun pinagkakakitaan ng mga mechanic, binenbenta sa magbobote. Kaya tuloy nag-drun na lang lol

[GTcervan]

Grabe, napunta na sa pms ng ford yung thread na ito. Werpa! 😂

[minicarph]

Sows, buti nga nag-share ako ng info ngaun, i dont normally do that eh kasi lang wala kao ginagawa ngaun.

This thread is very interesting coz eto lang talaga 2 PPv na ito ang dapat pagpilian Talaga. Its both traditional looking suv, so it will age well.

Eh
Sa Fortuner - walang reverse cam, at this age di ka pa maka-reverse ng walang cAmera, eh sa phone nga pwede ka umatras ngaun ng hindi nag turn gamit mo lang selfie cam mo

Sa Montero -hindi pa din malaman kung ano ba talaga likod Auv, MPv o SuV

And sa TBZ - sinuyod ko na banawe, talagang bihira Intsik mag-stock ng chevy parts eh kasi nga talo na sila sa warehousing cost, hindi pa mabilis mag-move ang inventory.

Mas excited pa ako sa Nissan Terra, kasi proven na na low cost maintenance ang navarra.

Eto lang 3 dapat pagpilian talaga

[GTcervan]

^^Eh bat hindi mo sinama santa fe or sorento sa mga choices mo kahit hindi sila ppv?

[StockEngine]

^^Eh bat hindi mo sinama santa fe or sorento sa mga choices mo kahit hindi sila ppv?

hindi pwede pambaha..

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[Janemar]

P9.1k lang daw pero bakit sa ford ranger club philippines andaming mga reklamo regarding diyan sa cost ng pms?

Minimum na PMS yan sir, 9.1k full syn Change oil, filter, brakes cleaning, battery, fluids and underchassis check and adjustment ng hand brake lang.

Nagiging mahal PMS dahil mahal Air filter, fuel filter and cabin filter pag sa casa mo kukunin. Air filter nasa 3.5k sa casa... So palo agad 12k un. Okay naman kay SA since tropa na rin.

For air, fuel and cabin, sa labas na ko bumili parts and DIY kabit ko na lang. Once pa lang ako nagpapalit air, fuel galing banawe kaya mura. Around 20k mileage pa lang naman, air filter hangin hangin lang. Hehe.. Cabin filter every 3 months or so, allergic eh, gusto ko fresh.. Haha..

For me, normal lang cost ng regular PMS nito. Especially if out of warranty na si TS at sa mga gas stations or sa motec, servitek, rapide, etc.. mo na ipapagawa. Nothing too fancy or expensive.

[Janemar]

Mababa lang pala ang cost ng pms ni sir sa eve niya, almost same lang sa mitsu adventure ko.

Maganda na yan but maybe specific yan sa casa na pinupuntahan ni sir and maybe may promos or loyalty thing kaya medyo mababa.

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Wala ako promo or royalty thing sir. Basta, pag upo ko sa desk. Sabihin ko lang barest na pms pagawa ko at no carwash and additives...

[Ketib]

Sa Montero -hindi pa din malaman kung ano ba talaga likod Auv, MPv o SuV

Hehehe! Sa harap ka na lang tumingin.




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[Janemar]

Ford requires air filter change every 10k kms or 6 months to protect “daw” the turbo plus add ons na hindi kailangan kaya mahal. Owner can opt not to like me. Regular pms cost was around 8-9k. Pag may ibang filters like air, fuel and cabin, it would go up to 12k-16k depending sa casa. Advantage sa ford every 6 months or twice a year ka lang pupunta sa casa. Lesser abala compared sa iba na every 3 months/5k kms.


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Yes sir, ganyan sa akin. Base PMS cost ako lagi. Then, pag nakita ni SA/technician na malinis pa air filter ko, di na po nya irecommend palitan. Thats why I always get a 9.1k PMS cost.

[Janemar]

baka yung iba sa low downpayment nila na acquired yung PPV nila. kaya sa pms mahal na at kulang na pera dahil sa monthly amortization ubos na.

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Di lang ito nangyayari sa PPV market sir, kahit sa compact segment marami ganyan cases din. Enticing kasi ang low DP ngaun, dali magka oto. Di na nafactor PMS, fuel, toll, parking, etc..

[bolog]

mUx PMS at 1.5T km - P3500
Mux PMS at 5k - ganun din daw pag balik ko

Ranger PMS at 5k - almost 9k ata

So san diff? Sa oil. ford only run fully synthetic, while Isuzu use regular isuzu oil

Dyan talo ng Isuzu ang Ford sa oil lang, others oil filter, air filter siguro difference of P300 mas mahal Ford

In terms of FC, I average 9.2km/liter on the Wildtrak while 12.3km/liter on the bluepower. Considering that ford uses FA oil mas matipid pa din regular oil ng Isuzu. The figures I posted are from my computer trip meter. I dont bother manual compute na since kaya nga diesel na para wala na feel feel ba para ka naka - taxi metro sa fc lol

Ang problema ko ngaun eh yun Ford Explorer ko, kasi average of 35km / 100L , that's like 3km/liter. Tsk tsk eh kasi naman sa gulong sinalpakan ko ng stock tires ng FJ Cruiser, nagka 2 inch lift ako sa rubber pa lang, Dati kasi average ako ng 16km/100L or roughly 6km/liter sa stock tires.

But I tell you these diesels today no match talaga sa Ford V6 even of yesteryears in terms of arangkadahan .

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In terms of maintenance outside warranty / casa, Ford is not expensive. In. fact mas expensive pa nga Honda . my Ford Explorer eddie bauer is one of the cheapest maintenance cars ko , tipong 3k/year or every 10Tkm .

The one that thing I noticed is even more than 10 years ago, solid ang suspension design ng mga Ford. Solid na comfy pa. Unlike with the Japs, solid nga tagtag naman .

Both my ranger and explorer, sarap sumakay and hindi takot salubak

Thanks Bro for sharing your thoughts. At least di biased kc you highlighted both the good and the bad for each. I believe sa Fuel Consumption nararamdaman un configuration ng MUX sa makina nila kc understressed cya. 2.5 cya pero it has lower HP than everest na lower displacement at 2.2. Eto din daw according to ISUZU is their way to prolong engine life. Try reading B10 certification ng ISUZU engine for MUX...