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    Watsup Tsikoters?

    Need your expert advise. Especially those who have experienced driving either of the 2.

    I'm planning to get a base 4x2 SUV na manual kasi un lng kaya ng budget at 1.3M (max budget). I checked, asked and researched online and it appears ang pinakamura na Pick-up based SUV at the moment is MUX (1.37) and Everest (1.399). I checked with their respective SA's and puede daw cla magbigay ng cash discount so pasok sa budget. Note that their SRP is pre-TRAIN law kasi old stocks pa nmn un units. I'm planning to buy pick-up din kaso parang sayang un bed for daily city driving. Gusto ko kasi un go anywhere. I currently have hatch ngaun as my daily driver and un ang limitation ng tsikot ko especially pag out of town drives.

    What do you guys think about this 2? Which would you recommend based on my needs below?

    - Fuel efficiency
    - Reliability and long term maintenance cost. which has lower PMS cost. I'm planning to have this for around 10 years so serviceability outside casa is also
    essential (i.e. Parts and labor)
    - Ride Comfort
    - Looks

    These 4 lng nmn main criteria ko since I believe power is sufficient for these 2 kasi nasa Pinas lng nmn tau. I'm all for practicality kaya I'm leaning towards MUX although admittedly mas maraming features and Everest. Although di cya masyado deal breaker for me kc nice have's lng nmn cla. For looks pareho lng cla for me although parang mas pogi si everest.

    * Note may palabas na daw na 1.9 MUX next month according to my SA so need ko ata hintaying dn un. Im not sure sa pricing though.

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    W8 for the 1.9 first. Baka pasok sa budget ung base model. Un na lng kunin mo. Reliable and pogi pa


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimchijiji View Post
    W8 for the 1.9 first. Baka pasok sa budget ung base model. Un na lng kunin mo. Reliable and pogi pa


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    Ou nga sir eh. Pero un catch nmn daw dun is baka puede cla magbigay ng additional 50k discount sa old model na 2.5LS-A and most probably daw un 1.9 is around 1.4M na daw although ang claim is around 19% na mas fuel efficient ito. So I'm not sure if that's a good justification to ipon muna and get this instead.

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    the 1.9 mt doesnt have the fuel sipping sickness of the aisin 6at... [emoji6]

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    the 1.9 mt doesnt have the fuel sipping sickness of the aisin 6at... [emoji6]

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    What do you mean fuel sipping sickness? Known issue ba to for all MUX engines?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bolog View Post
    What do you mean fuel sipping sickness? Known issue ba to for all MUX engines?
    walang issue bro. hindi lng efficient yun 6at vs 6mt. gets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    walang issue bro. hindi lng efficient yun 6at vs 6mt. gets?

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    I think mas mura ang pag maintain ng mux compared everest... and wait for 1.9 para mas maka mura ka sa old stocks... [emoji16]


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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    walang issue bro. hindi lng efficient yun 6at vs 6mt. gets?

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    1 had both 6at and 6mt wala naman difference sa fuel consumption. I think it defends upon your driving skill[emoji12]

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    since I have both bluepower and wildtrak. I can attest that mas masarap i-drive ang wildtrak kaysa bluepower. pano pa kung naging everest yun wildtrak. so primitive the Isuzu, parang late ng one generation sa driving mechanics as compared to the Ford. or maybe because, naka EPS na ang ranger and everest. pero hinde din eh sa suspension, mas maganda pa din Ford.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    walang issue bro. hindi lng efficient yun 6at vs 6mt. gets?

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    heres the proof...

    https://www.topgear.com.ph/news/car-...e_featured_big

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    I'd pick the Everest between the two, value for money and safety reasons na din.

    Yung base model mu-X yata ang pinaka mahal na modern vehicle without ABS. That alone is a deal breaker for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LancerA174A View Post
    I'd pick the Everest between the two, value for money and safety reasons na din.

    Yung base model mu-X yata ang pinaka mahal na modern vehicle without ABS. That alone is a deal breaker for me.

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    Bro, I think you are referring to the 2.5LS model na pinaka base. Sorry di ko naspecify I was referring to the model after that. Kasi nun nakita ko dn sobrang bare ng model na un for MUX. No EBD, ABS... maski foglight wala.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bolog View Post
    Bro, I think you are referring to the 2.5LS model na pinaka base. Sorry di ko naspecify I was referring to the model after that. Kasi nun nakita ko dn sobrang bare ng model na un for MUX. No EBD, ABS... maski foglight wala.
    I see, I think nagtaas na kasi yung base model sa 1.3M na din after excise tax. Not sure if available pa yung 2.5 LS-A A/T, for me yun talaga best value for money variant ng mu-X.

    Ang sakin lang kasi it's better that you have those extra safety feats even if you won't need it everyday. We would have gotten the LS-M 3 years ago kaso exclusive sa LS-A ang ESC.

    The Everest still gets my vote. Pero choice niyo pa din yan hehe.

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    Mababa lang pala ang cost ng pms ni sir sa eve niya, almost same lang sa mitsu adventure ko.

    Maganda na yan but maybe specific yan sa casa na pinupuntahan ni sir and maybe may promos or loyalty thing kaya medyo mababa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reddik2017 View Post
    Mababa lang pala ang cost ng pms ni sir sa eve niya, almost same lang sa mitsu adventure ko.

    Maganda na yan but maybe specific yan sa casa na pinupuntahan ni sir and maybe may promos or loyalty thing kaya medyo mababa.

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    We had an old 1st gen everest before around a decade ago and the cost of pms for 10k kms was also 10k for that non-crdi suv. So pano magiging mas mura yun kung this time, crdi at puros new features na meron ang new everest? Kaya matatawa ka lang eh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTcervan View Post
    We had an old 1st gen everest before around a decade ago and the cost of pms for 10k kms was also 10k for that non-crdi suv. So pano magiging mas mura yun kung this time, crdi at puros new features na meron ang new everest? Kaya matatawa ka lang eh.
    I also read and heard it also from other owners na mahal daw cost ng pms ng everest, but if you have the money to buy a PPV then you can afford their pms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinrem View Post
    I also read and heard it also from other owners na mahal daw cost ng pms ng everest, but if you have the money to buy a PPV then you can afford their pms.

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    The pms prices vary depending on the casa and what you opt in or opt out of. My 10k PMS for my Everest was around P5,700+ and my 20K was around P12,900+.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevie View Post
    The pms prices vary depending on the casa and what you opt in or opt out of. My 10k PMS for my Everest was around P5,700+ and my 20K was around P12,900+.
    Oh. Mas naniniwala pako dito eh kaysa yung hindi nagbabago yung presyo ng pms pagdating ng 10k, 20k, 30k and so on kms tapos hindi ganun kataas yung price eh we all know na notorious ang ford pagdating sa ganyan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinrem View Post
    I also read and heard it also from other owners na mahal daw cost ng pms ng everest, but if you have the money to buy a PPV then you can afford their pms.

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    baka yung iba sa low downpayment nila na acquired yung PPV nila. kaya sa pms mahal na at kulang na pera dahil sa monthly amortization ubos na.

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    Sa nakikinita ko medyo mas madugo ang bago Fords ngaun vs sa old Ford in terms of parts. For example, I ordered a clutch fan sa banawe. They misquoted me 12k+ daw ang clutch fan, yun pala akala nun shop personnel eh naka everest ako, sabi ko explorer 2005, sa hayun 7500 lang naman clutch fan ng Explorer.

    Pero nagtanong tanong naman ako ng avg clutch fan cost mitsu or even toyota sa Banawe, eh around 12k territory din so at par lang with the Ford.

    So what Did I learn, since la pa nman 2 years ranger ko, di ko pa problema siguro, pero pag nagaout of warranty na , mas mahal ang mga pyesa ng mga new car models ngaun. Tsk tsk even sa Banawe na yan mapa Toyota pa yan or Ford.

    So brace yourselves folks, matinde talaga ang inflation ngaun. If you gonna pay like 45k per month on installment on a new PPV, then like 40k annual insurance divide by 12 months = 3.3k mo, then avg 9k pms every half year or 1500 / month. Then LtO reg pegged at 5k per year or P400 / month .

    You are looking at 45k installment + 3.3k inurance + 1.5k PMS + 400 LTO reg = P50k+ monthly cost of owning a PPV. Excluded pa dyan of course, the fuel and carwash cost.

    Dapat sumweldo ka ng at least P100k a month net kasi P 50k nasa car na.

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