"Tamang OC lang" - a newbie's guide to car appearance maintenance

[JohnM]

Nanosil is available at most Blade and Ace outlets. Minsan they have both the small and big bottle

What they don't have is the glass cleaner that was mentioned a few posts ago. They do have the new leather conditioner and cleaner that's reportedly also good for ladies bags

Ako naman since la pang budget for KAIO I use Nanoglos for libag, Collinite 845 for tar spots, and Nanosliq after every wash.

[alvinladen]

Sabi nga ni wifey, addict na ako sa detailing kasi every weekend, i spend a day detailing my two SUVs.

ako din nagiging addict na dahil nabasa ko itong thread na to hehe. mukhang magiging hobby ko na ang detailing.

gonna order Optimum gloss enhancer and Klasse sealant glaze.

[yourman_2nd]

Sir yourman, if you can avoid cleaner waxes, do so. Use dedicated cleaner products such as KAIO or step 1 para di sayang effort mo. Cleaner waxes dont do well as cleaners and at the same time, cannot match the durability of sealants and waxes. It's a poor compromise product.

Try to use step1 and cleaner waxex sparingly, siguro once every three months, since most of these products are abrasive. Sayang clearcoat mo. If you really want to deep clean it often I would suggest using a chemical cleaner like KAIO

Mawawala swirls mo sa step 2 coz it has filling properties. Nanoglos and nanosil also has filling properties.

Whay I'd suggest is do a basic detail... Wash, asphalt removal, clay, then use step 1, then apply nanosil using your orbital buffer with a light polishing pad. After nanosil you could use step 3 or top coat. Do that every three months and it will be okay as long as you can keep your wax layeralive through reapplication and boosters.

thanks sa advise Mr TS. before I ready your thread, i was into this cleaner wax fast way of detailing the cars. Guess will have to use this sparingly and only when i dont have the time to do the STeps 1- 3 of Mothers and Microtex.

Yes i do asphalt removal using kerosene after washing whenever required. I also apply the clay bar whenever necessary. Now my problem is removing the swirl marks and minor scratches since the Step 2 and Nanisil/Nanoglos only hides these. What are good polishes out there? Do i need to purchase a good polish evenif i already have mothers and 3M scratch/swirl mark remover? Is it safe to use these products once a month?

So the orbital is recommended for Step 2 and/or Nanoglos and not for Step 1 or scratch/swirl marks remover/polishes?

Going to applicator pads, i have a few: microtex applicator (rectangular sponge with purple smooth chamois covering), ace applicator (round sponge with orange microfiber covering, and rectangular sponge covered by terry cloth. I used the ace applicator for steps 1 and 2, and for scratch remover for hard and vigorous application while the microtex applicator for step 3, reflections, and Nanoglos for easy and light applications. while for nanosliq, i used the microfiber.

[rna800]

very helpful indeed sir. Thanks. I tried looking for nanosil yesterday at some stores but cant seem to find it yet. I plan to gor the Microtex way during rainy season, since easier on the budget and less effort to accomplish so kahit weekly pwede. As for the Mothers Steps 1-3 plus Relfections top coat, reserve ko na lang for the Summer and non rainy season para matipid ng konti.

I would also try to add to my stock the Collinte or Klasse for some good investments and more durable products. Sabi nga ni wifey, addict na ako sa detailing kasi every weekend, i spend a day detailing my two SUVs.

Indeed sir, auto detailing is very addicting and if you are not careful, it will empty your wallet in an instant.hehe Imagine just the wax alone, there are literally hundreds of them in the market, excluded the ones from abroad which are costlier. How much more if you include the shampoo, brushes, for interior detailing, under chassis, wheel and tires, wheel wells, window/glass detailing, the list just goes on and on.

You could use Mothers step 1-3 already if you want especially if you are still trying to save for Klasse twins and Collinite. You could also look at Optimum Car Care products. Actually there are still more good and durable products out there but for me, those 3 are already good enough. They can still offer protection which should be the primary reason why you are applying those and second is the look. But of course, if you are really after the durability and frequency of application, you should really invest in those non OTC products.

Microtex is good especially if you will factor in the price. It's so easy on the pocket. However, you might find yourself applying it frequently since they only last after a few washes or rains.

Every time you detail your car, it also serves as a workout.hehe So if you are also seriously considering of losing weight, you might wanna try car detailing as your workout.hehe

[rna800]

yung nanoglos ba kailangan lagyan every carwash?

ok lang kaya nanosliq then nanoglos then nanosliq uli? eto gagawin ko pag tinatamad ako mag carwash hehe.

plano ko bumili ng Klasse, ano ba magandang iapply before Klasse para ma fill yung mga scratches and swirls? 1 month old pa lang ang sasakyan ko pero dami na gasgas.

It's ok sir, if you apply Nanoglos after every car wash but for me, I feel like I am just wasting the product if I do that. Well it depends on how dirty the car got. Perhaps after 2 car washes in a week, I will reapply Nanogloss.

You can use Nanosliq if the car isn't that dirty instead of washing it with shampoo. Or you can use it after shampoo. If you are saving the product, wash it then just spray Nanosliq the next day. Nanogloss is a hybrid wax so if you apply it on top of Nanosliq then putting Nanosliq again after applying Nanogloss, you are just wasting your Nanosliq. Nanosliq is a quick detailer which boosts the wax that you applied and/or used to remove dirt, bird poops, etc.

You could try those swirl and scratch removers, compounds or polishes in removing swirls and scratches. Just use the least aggressive product first. Then you can apply Klasse twins. Or you could just try KAIO, it might remove those micro swirls already then apply the KSG to seal. After the 24 hr curing time, better if you apply another coat of KSG then wait after 24 hrs again before finishing it with the LSP of your choice.

[yourman_2nd]

Indeed sir, auto detailing is very addicting and if you are not careful, it will empty your wallet in an instant.hehe Imagine just the wax alone, there are literally hundreds of them in the market, excluded the ones from abroad which are costlier. How much more if you include the shampoo, brushes, for interior detailing, under chassis, wheel and tires, wheel wells, window/glass detailing, the list just goes on and on.

You could use Mothers step 1-3 already if you want especially if you are still trying to save for Klasse twins and Collinite. You could also look at Optimum Car Care products. Actually there are still more good and durable products out there but for me, those 3 are already good enough. They can still offer protection which should be the primary reason why you are applying those and second is the look. But of course, if you are really after the durability and frequency of application, you should really invest in those non OTC products.

Microtex is good especially if you will factor in the price. It's so easy on the pocket. However, you might find yourself applying it frequently since they only last after a few washes or rains.

Every time you detail your car, it also serves as a workout.hehe So if you are also seriously considering of losing weight, you might wanna try car detailing as your workout.hehe

exactly sir. i didnt mention the products i have for the interior, windshield, fabric, headlights, mags and wheels. burn a BIG hole in the wallet these detailing products. my new ride kasi is superior red (kulay talong) so high maintenance unlike my other ride na silver. specially rainy season, cant help but detail the cars each weekend to maintain and preserve the paint. that is without saying na TAMANG OC LANG para makintab ang saskyan lagi.

sa xmas bonus, baka pwede na ako makabili ng collinte/klasse/OCW products for longer periods of intense detailing at QD na alng every weekends..

and yes, this is a good exercise for middle aged men like me.

[rna800]

thanks sa advise Mr TS. before I ready your thread, i was into this cleaner wax fast way of detailing the cars. Guess will have to use this sparingly and only when i dont have the time to do the STeps 1- 3 of Mothers and Microtex.

Yes i do asphalt removal using kerosene after washing whenever required. I also apply the clay bar whenever necessary. Now my problem is removing the swirl marks and minor scratches since the Step 2 and Nanisil/Nanoglos only hides these. What are good polishes out there? Do i need to purchase a good polish evenif i already have mothers and 3M scratch/swirl mark remover? Is it safe to use these products once a month?

So the orbital is recommended for Step 2 and/or Nanoglos and not for Step 1 or scratch/swirl marks remover/polishes?

Going to applicator pads, i have a few: microtex applicator (rectangular sponge with purple smooth chamois covering), ace applicator (round sponge with orange microfiber covering, and rectangular sponge covered by terry cloth. I used the ace applicator for steps 1 and 2, and for scratch remover for hard and vigorous application while the microtex applicator for step 3, reflections, and Nanoglos for easy and light applications. while for nanosliq, i used the microfiber.

Yes sir, the best way is not to go with those cleaner waxes. It's still better to use a dedicated cleaner, polisher, sealer and wax.

Try looking at Meguiar's product line such as Scratch X 2.0, Swirl X, Ultimate Compound, Ultimate Polish. Or you could go with their professional line but they are more expensive. It's better if you do a test spot first to see if the product really works. Again, just use them sparingly especially compounds since they are even called liquid sandpaper. They can thin your clear coat. Use them as needed only. Once a month I guess is too much. Probably quarterly or depends on the degree and number of swirls.

[cjv_justice]

Eto ok pa! Baon na baon lang sa work. Hehe tagal nako di nakakapagdetail! Yung mazda2 namin ayun nagcrash last month sa tanay. Nagaaway pa casa at insurance sa repairs.

Ayos healthy pa discussion dito! At may mga bagong posters na. Hehe

a p*cha bad trip! sorry to hear about the car. yep me mga bago ngang mga detailers narin. ako unfortunately hindi na nakakasipot sa mga detailing sessions, marami talaga sa kanila nasa northern metro. still nag dedetail parin ako, steady na nga lang... or "tamang OC".

[vefyjeph]

Napabayaan ko yung car ko after a heavy rain sa underground parking for 4 days ata. Ayun, watermarks galore sa roof. Di naman gaano sa hood and sa may trunk...

I bought sa na mention na least aggressive - Meguires deep crystal paint cleaner (wala kasi ako makitaan ng KAIO) to remove those watermarks. Di kasi kaya ng wash or even Nanogloss/sliq na alisin yung marks.

Upon applying, di pa rin naalis yung watermarks. Naghanap ako sa youtube kung pano and mukhang too little ang ginamit ko sa application... Parang nag-aapply lang ng wax yung ginawa ko na dami nung product. Yung sa youtube, ang dami nila maglagay.

Retry ko next month o dapat try ko na lang ulit agad?

[rna800]

exactly sir. i didnt mention the products i have for the interior, windshield, fabric, headlights, mags and wheels. burn a BIG hole in the wallet these detailing products. my new ride kasi is superior red (kulay talong) so high maintenance unlike my other ride na silver. specially rainy season, cant help but detail the cars each weekend to maintain and preserve the paint. that is without saying na TAMANG OC LANG para makintab ang saskyan lagi.

sa xmas bonus, baka pwede na ako makabili ng collinte/klasse/OCW products for longer periods of intense detailing at QD na alng every weekends..

and yes, this is a good exercise for middle aged men like me.

If you are still saving sir, do a full detail with the products that you have. Then use the Microtex Wash and Wax when you shampoo. As to your QD, use Nanosliq every other day or two. You could also dilute it with distilled water 1:1 to prevent streaks (thanks to the tip of sir Ginnova) and also you'll have more Nanosliq.hehe If it's not that dirty, just dust it. That will save you a lot while keeping your car looking sharp. Just pray it will not rain and after 10 mins it will become sunny.hehe

[rna800]

Napabayaan ko yung car ko after a heavy rain sa underground parking for 4 days ata. Ayun, watermarks galore sa roof. Di naman gaano sa hood and sa may trunk...

I bought sa na mention na least aggressive - Meguires deep crystal paint cleaner (wala kasi ako makitaan ng KAIO) to remove those watermarks. Di kasi kaya ng wash or even Nanogloss/sliq na alisin yung marks.

Upon applying, di pa rin naalis yung watermarks. Naghanap ako sa youtube kung pano and mukhang too little ang ginamit ko sa application... Parang nag-aapply lang ng wax yung ginawa ko na dami nung product. Yung sa youtube, ang dami nila maglagay.

Retry ko next month o dapat try ko na lang ulit agad?

Sir, I also have a Meguiar's Deep Crystal Paint Cleaner (step 1) and yes, even after I applied it, there were still stubborn water marks that didn't get removed though I managed to remove some. They said it's better to use with a machine but for me, I applied it manually. I did at test spot first. I put a reasonable amount on the applicator then applied a medium pressure then light pressure. After that I inspected. If there are still marks, I will put cleaner again on the applicator pad then repeat the step. That together with step 2 are the hardest to do on the 3 step process.hehe Truly shoulder killers.hehe

If you have applied Deep Crystal Polish (step 2) and put LSP, better to just wait after 2 months or until the wax that you have applied dies. Just maintain it with a QD or regular shampoo for the time being. So that when you clean your paint again, you can do it totally from the start meaning claying, steps 1-3, etc. Besides, with the erratic weather that we have wherein it will rain then suddenly becomes sunny, in a week for sure your car will have hundreds of water marks again.

[alvinladen]

*rna800

thanks for the tip sir!

i agree with you, magandang workout ang detailing hehe

question:

yung Klasse at Optimum products ba ok lang i-apply sa open and direct sunlight? wala kasing bubongan yung garage ko.

[rna800]

*rna800

thanks for the tip sir!

i agree with you, magandang workout ang detailing hehe


question:

yung Klasse at Optimum products ba ok lang i-apply sa open and direct sunlight? wala kasing bubongan yung garage ko.

Better sir, if you do it under a shade especially if you will use Klasse twins, actually with any product. Remember that the twins are a 2 step process. KAIO could serve as a cleaner and polish so you should do it section by section to really clean the paint. The same goes with KSG and they said apply it very thinly or else it's very hard to remove. So let's say if you will apply the twins under direct sunlight, not only the car will be toasted but you also.hehe I guess that would take more than an hr in applying both. Plus those products will dry faster if the surface is hot. Do it in the morning or in the afternoon but make sure if you an adequate light.

For OCW, you could do it under direct sunlight since it's a spray wax. You can wax the whole car in less than 10 mins. Just spray and wipe, no buffing required. That is what I love about OCW and they said that it's more durable as compared to the OTC products available. But for their other products, it's still best to apply them under a shade.

[vefyjeph]

Sir, I also have a Meguiar's Deep Crystal Paint Cleaner (step 1) and yes, even after I applied it, there were still stubborn water marks that didn't get removed though I managed to remove some. They said it's better to use with a machine but for me, I applied it manually. I did at test spot first. I put a reasonable amount on the applicator then applied a medium pressure then light pressure. After that I inspected. If there are still marks, I will put cleaner again on the applicator pad then repeat the step. That together with step 2 are the hardest to do on the 3 step process.hehe Truly shoulder killers.hehe

If you have applied Deep Crystal Polish (step 2) and put LSP, better to just wait after 2 months or until the wax that you have applied dies. Just maintain it with a QD or regular shampoo for the time being. So that when you clean your paint again, you can do it totally from the start meaning claying, steps 1-3, etc. Besides, with the erratic weather that we have wherein it will rain then suddenly becomes sunny, in a week for sure your car will have hundreds of water marks again.

Step1 pa lang na-apply ko... And isang beses ko lang ini-apply. So talaga palang kulang na kulang ang ginawa ko. hehehe.

Step2, di pa ako nakakabili... After step1, 3M performance finish na nilagay ko... oks lang ba? Kulang pa collection ko eh, wala pa budget...

[alvinladen]

*rna800

thanks sir! sa hapon ko na lang gagawin pag palubog na ang araw.

[rna800]

Step1 pa lang na-apply ko... And isang beses ko lang ini-apply. So talaga palang kulang na kulang ang ginawa ko. hehehe.

Step2, di pa ako nakakabili... After step1, 3M performance finish na nilagay ko... oks lang ba? Kulang pa collection ko eh, wala pa budget...

Yikes! Just step 1, sir?hehe Meguiar's Deep Crystal Paint Cleaner (step 1) is used to clean your paint and to remove minor imperfections. It's more geared towards removing what is currently applied on your paint. You could apply LSP after step 1 but you might not achieve that shine, gloss or look that you are looking for. That's why there is step 2 which is the Meguiar's Deep Crystal Polish which is used to prepare your paint for the step 3 or the LSP of your choice. You might be able to remove swirls with just step 1 but it's kinda harder. You might need a help from a dedicated scratch or swirl remover or a polish or compounds depending on how deep the scratch or swirl is. And of course, it's better if you use a machine.

If budget is an issue, try straight Microtex, sir - Nanosil, Nanogloss and Nanosliq. They have those in sachets which are so easy on the pocket. Although they said that to really unleash the effect of Nanosil, you should use a machine, you could still apply it by hand but make sure you really rub it on the paint to break the crystals which will bond on the paint. Then apply Nanogloss wait for 6 to 8 cure. Just maintain it with Nanosliq. 1 sachet would last perhaps 2 to 3 applications especially the Nanosil and Nanogloss. It can be tricky though with Nanosliq in a sachet.

3M Performance Finish belongs to a finishing sealant category so I guess putting it after Meguiar's Deep Crystal Paint Cleaner is ok. Better to apply an LSP after curing (I am not sure if 3M PF has curing time but as far as I know, most sealants have curing time) for more protection.

[vefyjeph]

thanks sir rna! So kulang pala talaga. Kaya pala wala effect.

I think ok pa naman shine nung paint (using my eye) kasi 3 months old pa lang car. And nagamitan ko naman ng nanogloss/sliq/OCW alternately every wash. I just wanted to remove those watermarks sa roof.

[alvinladen]

may nabibili bang portable buffing tool? yung wireless?

[stavros]

may nabibili bang portable buffing tool? yung wireless?

Baka cordless sir haha! :D

[alvinladen]

oo yung nga, hehe