Detailing Thread [For Newbies][continued 2]

[jozep]

WHAT: BASIC DETAILING FOR BEGINNERS
WHERE: SOMEWHERE SA KATIPUNAN
WHEN: DEC 5, 2010 (SUN)
TIME: 8am
TOPICS:
1) HOW TO PROPERLY WASH YOUR CAR
2) STEP 1-2-3 ON 1 PANEL ONLY (WITH POLISHER/BY HAND)
3)WHEEL detailing
4) product knowledge

PARTICIPANTS
1) PSI
2) Hardinero
3) Chikselog - tentative
4) kErikzb ==(pls IM me your mobile no)
5) scharnhorst
6) bombitmd
7) jed
8) yvesjae
9) jozep - tentative



mga sir, pwede ba maki join dito if ever ma cancel yun lakad ko on sunday???
darating ba si master edwin and madkatz???

[georgeD]

just applied collinite 476 on my car (hood and trunk only). pero nanotice ko po na same lang yung shine nya sa ginagamit ko na tw cleaner wax..meron ba kong pwedeng ibang iapply muna before or after 476 para mas kumintab pa lalo?after application pala e binasa ko ng water.grabe dumudulas lang yung tubig..hehe..kaya thanks sa mga nagrecommend sakin ng 476..

if nagcar wash ba ko using shampoo e mawawala na yung effect nung 476?para di ako magcar wash using shampoo para naman di masyang pag apply ko..

one more thing..dami ko nababasa dito na mga steps like 1. wash first. 2. sealant. 3. wax. pero anu-ano po ba mga sealant (brand)? yung locally made lang sana like mga turtle or microtex...gusto ko kasi lagyan ng sealant kaya lang no idea kung anong klase yun..

see this link: http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...shing-wax.html

[tribal]

Marami pong klase at brand ng sealant pero walang TW or Microtex. Some of the brands are Klasse, Carlack, Wolfgang, etc.

Konti lang nagbebenta ng mga to locally since imported sila lahat.

ah talagang wala po ako mabibilhan like sa mga blade, ace or concorde?

detergent proof ang 476 bro. pero pinaka-safe na siguro ang microtex shampoo. gamit ka nalang QD after para may pampaslick and shine. btw, hindi shine ang forte ng 476, more on durability siya.
and yup, like what chikselog said, carlack, klasse, zaino ang mga brand ng sealants. mostly, order basis ang mga yan. carlack twins can be bought in Big Berts worth 2600php. klasse and zaino can be bought online or kay sir Ed I think.

ah so mas safe siguro di ko nalang ishampoo...normally running water lang gawa ko e...may QD ako gamit ko pa dun sa scooter ko before kaya lang kasi kapag yung spray e once na umulan e wala na agad yung effect nung QD..(araw araw at gabi gabi pa naman umuulan ngayon). carlack twins?(so dalawang bottle yun?) yung klasse may idea po kayo mga how much?

[kafph2000]

ah talagang wala po ako mabibilhan like sa mga blade, ace or concorde?



ah so mas safe siguro di ko nalang ishampoo...normally running water lang gawa ko e...may QD ako gamit ko pa dun sa scooter ko before kaya lang kasi kapag yung spray e once na umulan e wala na agad yung effect nung QD..(araw araw at gabi gabi pa naman umuulan ngayon). carlack twins?(so dalawang bottle yun?) yung klasse may idea po kayo mga how much?

yup, 2 bottles yun. isang all-in-one, at isang pure sealant lang. dapat combo sila pag ginamit. ganun din ang presyo ng klasse, actually pareho lang sila, iba lang ng packaging. zaino is even more expensive.

[scharnhorst]

7:30 ba sa mcdo katips?

nako lagot tayong mga dumadaan ng commonwealth!

[jozep]

7:30 ba sa mcdo katips?

nako lagot tayong mga dumadaan ng commonwealth!

Naku di lang pala sa commonwealth ang closed:


On December 5 2010, race day of the 2nd Quezon City International Marathon, traffic will be closed from 12 a.m. to 12 noon at:

around the Quezon Memorial Circle
portion of Commonwealth Avenue headed towards Fairview
C.P Garcia Avenue
University Avenue
East Avenue
Visayas Avenue
Kalayaan Avenue
North Avenue
Quezon Avenue
University Avenue in UP Diliman

[PSI]

Naku di lang pala sa commonwealth ang closed:


On December 5 2010, race day of the 2nd Quezon City International Marathon, traffic will be closed from 12 a.m. to 12 noon at:

around the Quezon Memorial Circle
portion of Commonwealth Avenue headed towards Fairview
C.P Garcia Avenue
University Avenue
East Avenue
Visayas Avenue
Kalayaan Avenue
North Avenue
Quezon Avenue
University Avenue in UP Diliman

mga idol,
try ninyo dumaan na lang ng cubao.....U-TURN kayo sa pag katapos ng flyover papunta MARIKINA...... para papunta na kayo ng ateneo

[Reepicheep]

OT: Paralyzed pala kaming mga tiga-Tandang Sora. Sarado Visayas, Commonwealth and Circle.

[scharnhorst]

hanap nalang ng paraan!

natuyuan ng ulan yung mazda2 namin... wah. daming water marks. di natanggal sa washing lahat

sana kaya pa ng clay

[kafph2000]

hi guys!
Finally got a claying kit! I have questions though.
To what smallest portion can I divide a single clay bar?
Will half of it suffice to clay the whole car?
And for how many times can I use a clay bar before i throw it away?
Btw, it will be the first time I will clay our cars, so I guess there's a thick layer of dirt on them. Thanks!

[tribal]

yup, 2 bottles yun. isang all-in-one, at isang pure sealant lang. dapat combo sila pag ginamit. ganun din ang presyo ng klasse, actually pareho lang sila, iba lang ng packaging. zaino is even more expensive.

so pwede din po ba yung sealant lang mismo bilhin?any idea how much kung yung sealant lang po?

[kafph2000]

so pwede din po ba yung sealant lang mismo bilhin?any idea how much kung yung sealant lang po?

experts say that they use AIO to clean the paint first, at the same time layering some protection. if you think your paint is prepped enough, you can already use long life sealant. but still, using sealant on its own will not guarantee 100% protection as compared to using both. Long life sealant is 1.4k.

[georgeD]

hi guys!
Finally got a claying kit! I have questions though.
To what smallest portion can I divide a single clay bar?
Will half of it suffice to clay the whole car?
And for how many times can I use a clay bar before i throw it away?
Btw, it will be the first time I will clay our cars, so I guess there's a thick layer of dirt on them. Thanks!

i use mothers clay bar and here's what i do: i usually cut one bar in halves and use 1/2 and save the other half for later use... i then make ball out of it and press it thin like a burger patty and spray about 2' x 2' panel with the QD spray (showtime) and slide the clay left-right, up-down without any pressure, i just let it slide until it smoothly sliding, then fold it and make a ball again and thin patty-like... when i see the clay becomes rough or it does not smoothly slide, then that's the time you discard it... also when you drop the clay, don't use it anymore as this might scratch the surface of the car... 1 bar of new clay is more than enough for 3 ave size car (sedan), but on my SUV, i always use a new half every 6 months and discard it after... HTH

[KrisKros]

My Chevy Cruze is getting released this coming week.
Is there anything that I should do after getting it? (Detailing wise?)
should i have it washed right away?
have it washed n waxed waxed within a week of having it?
or straight to a detailer?
btw the car will be black.

[kafph2000]

i use mothers clay bar and here's what i do: i usually cut one bar in halves and use 1/2 and save the other half for later use... i then make ball out of it and press it thin like a burger patty and spray about 2' x 2' panel with the QD spray (showtime) and slide the clay left-right, up-down without any pressure, i just let it slide until it smoothly sliding, then fold it and make a ball again and thin patty-like... when i see the clay becomes rough or it does not smoothly slide, then that's the time you discard it... also when you drop the clay, don't use it anymore as this might scratch the surface of the car... 1 bar of new clay is more than enough for 3 ave size car (sedan), but on my SUV, i always use a new half every 6 months and discard it after... HTH

Thanks for the complete details bro! btw, regarding new clay bars: can you buy the clay seperately? where and how much?

[GulongGong]

Hi everyone, newbie here sa detailing and getting pretty much interested with it. I've been reading thu the pages on detailing for newbies kasi di ko mabasa lahat sa sobrang haba kaya di ko ma extract lahat ng info.. medyo overwhelming narin sa dami ng "terms" na ginagamit.. anyways, marami narin ako natutunan so first let me say Thank You for sharing your knowledge.

Now, I just got a ford fiesta and hope I'd be able to preserve its beauty kaya sobrang naging interested ako sa detailing stuff na to... and also, I have a 2006 everest na medyo napabayaan na ang paint, gusto ko sana gawing project ko yun, baka sakali kasi ma maayos ko at matuto narin at the same time. hehe..

So far, may mga nabili na ako na mga detailing stuff but mukang mali yata yung iba.. anyways.. these are..

- Microtex washmitt
- washmitt from ACE hardware
- Microtex kit ( yung may pink, purple at chammy )
- Microtex duster
- micromagic applicator pads
- formula 1 pva chamois
- sponge

- Elevo Water mark remover
- f21 car polish
- formula 1 carnauba car wax
- formula 1 carnauba gold clear coat car wax
- formula 1 wash and wax shampoo
- collinite 476s (sa monday pa dating from autobisyo)
- auto gard rain repellant
- formula 1 scratch out
- Armor all original
- Armor all extreme Tire Shine
- turle wax rubbing compound


... as you can see mukang marami akong maling nabili na products... I'm still looking for "Optimum car wax" but still no luck in finding one, also in my list is a clay (Microtex?). any recommendations mga sir? ano ba sa mga to ang dapat kong gamitin at wag gamitin? basic steps sana para sa pag maintain ko nung new car and likewise anong magandang approach para naman dun sa everest ko na medyo napabayaan ang paint. Thanks again and more power!

[bombitmd]

For tomorrow's EB, baka may gusto bumili nung pressure washer ko? 4500 na lang, with gun (iba pa yung kasama niyang long spray gun). Few months pa lang, great condition. Dalhin ko na lang bukas just in case may interested.

Sa mga pupunta bukas, maraming way around - from fairview/project8/north area, mag sauyo road (for those coming from Fairview) and then Mindanao-EDSA-Aurora-Katipunan. Mga galing south, wala masyado problema.

[madkatz]

Guys need your expert advise,

Which is better for black colored cars in terms of durability and looks, autoglym hd wax or p21s 100% carnauba wax? What's the advantage and disadvantage between the two waxes? Thanks.

both are great and pricey but i would say that AG HD is better, in terms of looks they are both the same but AG HD lasts a lot longer compared to p21s and p21s is also smaller compared to AG HD, but p21s is a lot easier to apply and remove

[madkatz]

mahal ba yung swissvax mga sir/ma'm??curious lang

yes the most expensive wax of their brand that i have cost me around 300$ for one small tub and some even go as far as 10k USD

[madkatz]

guys i need tips maintaining black car..first black car namin medyo mahirap pala maintain to, O.C. pa naman ako...wala naman matinong detailing shop dito samin...ano po kayang mga products kailangan ko?

For maintenance washmitt, shampoo and Microtex Elite would already be good to prevent causing more swirls, if you already have swirls SwirlX would be nice and for protection any wax would be good but some OTC waxes would require more frequent waxing than some premium waxes, sealants can also help but might be more finicky and a bit more expensive, its also good to get a duster to maintain the finish so you don't have to wash too often and always keep a MF and QD in the car at all times to remove bird droppings and tree saps