Detailing Thread [For Newbies][continued 2]

[madkatz]

WHAT: BASIC DETAILING FOR BEGINNERS
WHERE: SOMEWHERE SA KATIPUNAN
WHEN: DEC 5, 2010 (SUN)
TIME: 8am
TOPICS:
1) HOW TO PROPERLY WASH YOUR CAR
2) STEP 1-2-3 ON 1 PANEL ONLY (WITH POLISHER/BY HAND)
3)WHEEL detailing
4) product knowledge

PARTICIPANTS
1) PSI
2) Hardinero
3) Chikselog - tentative
4) kErikzb ==(pls IM me your mobile no)
5) scharnhorst
6) bombitmd
7) jed
8) yvesjae
9) jozep - tentative



mga sir, pwede ba maki join dito if ever ma cancel yun lakad ko on sunday???
darating ba si master edwin and madkatz???

hehe sorry i won't be there but ed will be

[madkatz]

so pwede din po ba yung sealant lang mismo bilhin?any idea how much kung yung sealant lang po?

we did a group buy for klasse twins for only 2.2k i think, send me a pm if you're interested and i'll send you my BF's contact number, im quite sure he still hasn't filled all the slots

[madkatz]

My Chevy Cruze is getting released this coming week.
Is there anything that I should do after getting it? (Detailing wise?)
should i have it washed right away?
have it washed n waxed waxed within a week of having it?
or straight to a detailer?
btw the car will be black.

my first suggestion would be to have it sealed with a quality sealant, multiple layers also give more benefits so it would be nice to have a sturdy protection available on the paint, also one of the first thing i would recommend would be to tell the dealership to not wash the car, don't care that much if its dirty as long as you don't have them wash it, dealers are notorious for causing swirls when they wash it for delivery

[madkatz]

Thanks for the complete details bro! btw, regarding new clay bars: can you buy the clay seperately? where and how much?

there are some sellers out there that sells clays separately, most solo clays go for about 1k each but these are those that are better than OTC clays since they last longer and are more effective or you could also get another claykit thats cheap at around 1k per set.

[madkatz]

Hi everyone, newbie here sa detailing and getting pretty much interested with it. I've been reading thu the pages on detailing for newbies kasi di ko mabasa lahat sa sobrang haba kaya di ko ma extract lahat ng info.. medyo overwhelming narin sa dami ng "terms" na ginagamit.. anyways, marami narin ako natutunan so first let me say Thank You for sharing your knowledge.

Now, I just got a ford fiesta and hope I'd be able to preserve its beauty kaya sobrang naging interested ako sa detailing stuff na to... and also, I have a 2006 everest na medyo napabayaan na ang paint, gusto ko sana gawing project ko yun, baka sakali kasi ma maayos ko at matuto narin at the same time. hehe..

So far, may mga nabili na ako na mga detailing stuff but mukang mali yata yung iba.. anyways.. these are..

- Microtex washmitt
- washmitt from ACE hardware
- Microtex kit ( yung may pink, purple at chammy )
- Microtex duster
- micromagic applicator pads
- formula 1 pva chamois
- sponge

- Elevo Water mark remover
- f21 car polish
- formula 1 carnauba car wax
- formula 1 carnauba gold clear coat car wax
- formula 1 wash and wax shampoo
- collinite 476s (sa monday pa dating from autobisyo)
- auto gard rain repellant
- formula 1 scratch out
- Armor all original
- Armor all extreme Tire Shine
- turle wax rubbing compound


... as you can see mukang marami akong maling nabili na products... I'm still looking for "Optimum car wax" but still no luck in finding one, also in my list is a clay (Microtex?). any recommendations mga sir? ano ba sa mga to ang dapat kong gamitin at wag gamitin? basic steps sana para sa pag maintain ko nung new car and likewise anong magandang approach para naman dun sa everest ko na medyo napabayaan ang paint. Thanks again and more power!

- Microtex washmitt

one of the best washmitts available locally

- washmitt from ACE hardware

this can be used for lower panels and wheels

- Microtex kit ( yung may pink, purple at chammy )

this is good, Pink/Plush for buffing off waxes and polishes, Suede for cleaning windows and interior panels and chamois for drying the car, their chamois is the safest chamois available locally since it will not cause scratches unlike conventional rubber chamois

- Microtex duster

good product but some people here say it could hamper the wax performance

- micromagic applicator pads

Best value applicator pads and easily disposable

- formula 1 pva chamois

not much recommended for paint surfaces, good for glass and wheels

- sponge

depends on the type of sponge, if the holes are large enough this could be safe for the paint but if its small like 1mm small these could trap grit and scratch the paint

- Elevo Water mark remover

one of the better water mark remover available good choice

- f21 car polish

one of the most depressing buys we did, not recommended for usage, TW Platinum is a lot better

- formula 1 carnauba car wax

cleaner wax mechanical abrasive type, basically its a cleaner wax that contains micropolishes that can remove some amount of clear

- formula 1 carnauba gold clear coat car wax

clear coat safe, pure wax but also damn hard to use and remove if left to dry too long, not bad on shine and looks department but doesn't last as long

- formula 1 wash and wax shampoo

Good value, but also needs more for the bucker, other nice shampoo would be NXT, TW Ice and Moms

- collinite 476s (sa monday pa dating from autobisyo)

Need i say more?

- auto gard rain repellant

Not as effective as Rain Clear Gel, i would recommend you use this on side windows but not the windshield, once you're done try the Glass Science Rain Clear Gel its better and lasts longer

- formula 1 scratch out

Very abrasive pretty much like a rubbing compound already and doesn't leave a nice gloss so you could remove scratches with this but be sure to follow it up with a finer polish like SwirlX or ScratchX or Moms Scratch Remover

- Armor all original

Not recommended, no personal experience yet but based on a lot of people that uses it it can really crack up the dashboard especially vinyl, some cases its cracking some cases its yellowing, either way most people that use it for years don't go back to using it

- Armor all extreme Tire Shine

Not bad product but i find Microtex and Red Carpet better in terms of looks and easier on the wallet

- turle wax rubbing compound

nick named "liquid sand paper" very course and will really leave a dull finish


With the Optimum Car Wax and Clay i would recommend you contact my BF at +639277227554, he sells both and a whole lot more items at a cheaper price

[jed_015]

yes the most expensive wax of their brand that i have cost me around 300$ for one small tub and some even go as far as 10k USD

wow!!!grabe pala mahal nun..thanks ma'm! pero parang available po siya locally??

[GulongGong]

*madkatz - Thank You madame for the rundown on those items, very very very helpful.. really! now I know what to use and NOT to use... from the looks of it, I still need a cleaner wax that is safe on clear coat before application of 476s? or is there something more in between?

btw, I have a kp600 and plan on doing the mod para mag accept ng ibang pads... is it advisable for a newb to use one? or should I stick with hand application muna just incase na magkamali? thanks!

[kerikzb]

WHAT: BASIC DETAILING FOR BEGINNERS
WHERE: SOMEWHERE SA KATIPUNAN
WHEN: DEC 5, 2010 (SUN)
TIME: 8am
TOPICS:
1) HOW TO PROPERLY WASH YOUR CAR
2) STEP 1-2-3 ON 1 PANEL ONLY (WITH POLISHER/BY HAND)
3)WHEEL detailing
4) product knowledge

PARTICIPANTS
1) PSI
2) Hardinero
3) Chikselog - tentative
4) kErikzb ==(pls IM me your mobile no)
5) scharnhorst
6) bombitmd
7) jed
8) yvesjae
9) jozep - tentative

Thanks Sir Edwin for the detailing demo/tips/tutorial etc..
*scharnhorst TL ako sa mazda mo..
*PSI *jed nice to meet ya'll.. sori late. hehe.

Next time ulit. :D dami ko natutunan. :D

[jozep]

WHAT: BASIC DETAILING FOR BEGINNERS
WHERE: SOMEWHERE SA KATIPUNAN
WHEN: DEC 5, 2010 (SUN)
TIME: 8am
TOPICS:
1) HOW TO PROPERLY WASH YOUR CAR
2) STEP 1-2-3 ON 1 PANEL ONLY (WITH POLISHER/BY HAND)
3)WHEEL detailing
4) product knowledge

PARTICIPANTS
1) PSI
2) Hardinero
3) Chikselog - tentative
4) kErikzb ==(pls IM me your mobile no)
5) scharnhorst
6) bombitmd
7) jed
8) yvesjae
9) jozep - tentative

Thanks Sir Edwin for the detailing demo/tips/tutorial etc..
*scharnhorst TL ako sa mazda mo..
*PSI *jed nice to meet ya'll.. sori late. hehe.

Next time ulit. :D dami ko natutunan. :D

sorry guys, di ako nakarating.

*psi - sir, thanks sa pag txt nun location. pasensya na ndi lang ako nakarating.

[scharnhorst]

Thanks Sir Edwin for the detailing demo/tips/tutorial etc..
*scharnhorst TL ako sa mazda mo..
*PSI *jed nice to meet ya'll.. sori late. hehe.

Next time ulit. :D dami ko natutunan. :D

hehe. thanks dude! nice meeting you bro! kita kits nalang ulit

*PSI: ok ka na idol?

*jed: kita kits sa next detailing session bro!

most of all salamat kay master edwin!

[kerikzb]

engine detail naman next? At wheels? excited for next session.. Lol

[Chikselog]

Walang tao sa bahay kaya di ako nakapunta. Sorry guys and sir Ed, bawi ako next time.

Ano ba mga topics na na-take up?

[kerikzb]

engine detail naman next? At wheels? excited for next session.. Lol

[scharnhorst]

Walang tao sa bahay kaya di ako nakapunta. Sorry guys and sir Ed, bawi ako next time.

Ano ba mga topics na na-take up?

Chikselog, eto mga nacover:
1) products
2) washing technique
3) sealants
4) cleaner waxing
5) machine correction (wool+rubbing compound tapos finishing pad+polish)
6) konting de-griming

[PSI]

*scharnhorst== ok na ko... pero sama talaga pakiramdam ko kanina kaya have to leave early.... next time ako na mag dedemo sama lang talaga pakiramdam ko....

*kerikzb/jed_015=== nice meetig you guys... nice to hear dami kayo natutunan.....

*Chikselog== product knowledge/washing the car.... step 1-2-3.... me nag seal ba?

[Chikselog]

Sama na ko next EB wag lang matapat sa pag-gawa ng project.

Feasibility namin ngayon kaya medyo alanganin ako palagi eh.

Hopefully pag nakuha ko na Klasse twins ko from Master Ed may eb about sealants ulit para matuto ako kung pano gumamit non.

[franster]

Guys what can you suggest on keeping the shine of the 3M Hand Glaze? Is it okay to reapply it once it wears off the paint?

[bombitmd]

Glad to hear a lot went to the EB and learned a lot :D Sad ako kasi hindi ako naka-punta last minute. Daughter had high fever last night and so medyo bantay today; although subsided din naman towards mid morning.

*PSI - pa-galing ka; baka naman nasosobrahan ka na sa detailing... hehe

[rico_g]

ah talagang wala po ako mabibilhan like sa mga blade, ace or concorde?



ah so mas safe siguro di ko nalang ishampoo...normally running water lang gawa ko e...may QD ako gamit ko pa dun sa scooter ko before kaya lang kasi kapag yung spray e once na umulan e wala na agad yung effect nung QD..(araw araw at gabi gabi pa naman umuulan ngayon). carlack twins?(so dalawang bottle yun?) yung klasse may idea po kayo mga how much?

had to do some back reading, i dont know if someone already answred this...

476s will take a lot of effort to remove, even when using household detergents (although, please... don;t try household grade products on your car)... So I'd prolly say that if you use any shampoo made for cars, the 476s would stand it...

Now, you'd just have to find a shampoo good enough to let your 476s last for as long as it can... if you're on a budget, get MIcrotex Sampoo, or if you wanna save more with a bulk buy, go to big berts an buy a whole gallon of their shampoo

I won't recommend washing your car without shampoo. Car shampoo is necessary in washing to:

1. Provide lubricity to the water to lessen the likelihood that the dirt wont scratch your car when you wipe it off.

2. Easily melt down (or decompose) road filem, grease, grime and other dirt that water and wiping won't just take off. (This is what foam wash does great, when you leave the foam shampoo on the car and let it slide down)

3. Add gloss, some shampoos have an effect that add to or compliments your car's overall shine.

Hope this helps...

[rico_g]

just got back from out of town... washed and protected with 1 week old 476s and OCW... tapos left at the open parking at the airport for 2 days and 2 nights...

it's not even the open parking at Centennial three where it's a bit isolated... that one was full so I had to park at an open parking right in front of the highway... when I got back to my car this afternoon.. ung black car, brown na... rain, pollution, brake dust, etc... I didn't even drive my car and now i have one hell of a detailing job...

when the vacation ends... work starts...

i feel bad wala ako ng last na EB, I hope everyone took home a lot of good lessons...

I agree with migs, pag anjan na ung sealant, sealing naman ang topic!