Going to Hong Kong thread [Merged]

[Egan101]

Kelan ba nananalo ang mga di-armado (civies) vs. armado (pulis)?

Obyus naman sino mananalo in a worst case scenario.

Yung EDSA people power kung tinuluyan ni Marcos Military early on, talo rin ang mga sibilyan.

Miracle na lang pag-asa.

It is even a surprise that China has been a bit cautious in handling the matter in Hong Kong. 30 years ago, it was a bloodbath in Tiananmen Square.

[leonleon]

It is even a surprise that China has been a bit cautious in handling the matter in Hong Kong. 30 years ago, it was a bloodbath in Tiananmen Square.

China is more open now.

Alam nila maraming mata nakamasid sa sitwasyon ngayon.

They won't risk a bloodbath.

But you never know.

A beast will always be a beast.

I'll just pray no bloodbath will happen.

We don't need more dead bodies.

[Egan101]

China is more open now.

Alam nila maraming mata nakamasid sa sitwasyon ngayon.

They won't risk a bloodbath.

But you never know.

A beast will always be a beast.

I'll just pray no bloodbath will happen.

We don't need more dead bodies.

China wouldn't mind taking out a few misfits in its nearly 1.4 billion population. A few thousands will not make a dent in its economic capability but the repercussions from global sanctions on doing another Tiannamen Square will be more felt.

[jut703]

I find it interesting that my Facebook social network (mostly millennials) and Tsikot (mostly middle-aged men) have very different views on the Hong Kong struggle today.

Historically, revolutions have been waged mostly by the youth. They have the enegy, the idealism, and will suffer the oppression the longest. On the other end of the spectrum, even if older folks are dissatisfied with the system, they have far too much to lose if they shake up the status quo. This holds not just for HK but for many other revolutions going on today and in the past.

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[boybi]

Wrong move by the cockroaches to fortify themselves inside universities. They are now surrounded and boxed in by the police.

[uls]

kung hindi ka pa kailangan mag hanapbuhay, if you don't have to worry about paying the bills yet

madali maging idealistic at mag rally rally

tingnan niyo mga pinoy aktibista karamihan college student

nasaan ang mga middle ager na aktibista?

nandun naghahanap ng pera kasi baka maputulan ng kuryente

[Wh1stl3r]

What do you guys think about the conspiracy theory that police (maybe PLA even) have infiltrated the ranks of protesters and done many of the violent, destructive acts?

[uls]

^^

heard that before

but the inflitrators shouldn't be mandarin speakers

to HK protesters, if you don't speak cantonese you're not one of them

unless PLA specifically recruited cantonese speakers to infiltrate

[minicarph]

bakit di na lang nila pasukin 700 lang naman pala yan nagsira as compared to the population of HK , and what theyre gonna lose

cornered na pala eh, dapat hinde na stand off. Patayub muna nila dsl ng campus, tapos mag cellphone jamming sa area

Iyak na yan 700 na yan

Nakakaiyak talaga pag may smartphone ka pero walang internet

[BlancNoir]

Saan na tayo bibili ng relo in the future?

[BlancNoir]

China wouldn't mind taking out a few misfits in its nearly 1.4 billion population. A few thousands will not make a dent in its economic capability but the repercussions from global sanctions on doing another Tiannamen Square will be more felt.

Like what uls said, they won't give the West that satisfaction.

[istan]

bakit di na lang nila pasukin 700 lang naman pala yan nagsira as compared to the population of HK , and what theyre gonna lose

cornered na pala eh, dapat hinde na stand off. Patayub muna nila dsl ng campus, tapos mag cellphone jamming sa area

Iyak na yan 700 na yan

Nakakaiyak talaga pag may smartphone ka pero walang internet

Hk internet interchange is located in that university. Kaya nagkakandarapa sila sugurin.

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[Verbl Kint]

I find it interesting that my Facebook social network (mostly millennials) and Tsikot (mostly middle-aged men) have very different views on the Hong Kong struggle today.

Historically, revolutions have been waged mostly by the youth. They have the enegy, the idealism, and will suffer the oppression the longest. On the other end of the spectrum, even if older folks are dissatisfied with the system, they have far too much to lose if they shake up the status quo. This holds not just for HK but for many other revolutions going on today and in the past.

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Hence, the rise of the "Ok Boomer" meme.

I actually have friends and colleagues on both sides of the situation in HK. I can empathize with both.

But looking at it from the bird's eye view perspective of an outsider, China has been systematically trying to take greater control in Hong Kong by slowly introducing new laws and policies that fundamentally undermine the freedom that Hong Kongers have had for over a century. This is in contravention to the Sino-British Joint Declaration providing that Hong Kong's way of life and capitalist system would not change until 2047.

A lot of middle-aged people don't know this because they are not savvy enough to use their computers to study history, and merely rely on their faulty recollections of the past instead of documented history and data (the fallacy of the "Good Old Days").

For them, activism is bad, period, without realizing that it is precisely this idealism and activism which allow them to practice the freedoms they so love today.

[leonleon]

China wouldn't mind taking out a few misfits in its nearly 1.4 billion population. A few thousands will not make a dent in its economic capability but the repercussions from global sanctions on doing another Tiannamen Square will be more felt.

Mali din naman kasi ginagawa ng Tsina.

Ako for the record hindi ako sang-ayon sa rule ng communist party nila.

70 years na sila nasa poder.

Swerte lang sila nasa poder pa sila because of China's phenomenal economic growth.

But I Won't ever want to live under their rule.

A lot will prolly disagree here, but that's my take.

That's why I can undersand HK and Taiwan's rancor with them.

[leonleon]

A lot of middle-aged people don't know this because they are not savvy enough to use their computers to study history, and merely rely on their faulty recollections of the past instead of documented history and data (the fallacy of the "Good Old Days").

For them, activism is bad, period, without realizing that it is precisely this idealism and activism which allow them to practice the freedoms they so love today.

Amen, bro.

Ako di ko malilimutan EDSA people power.

We should forever be vigilant.

Life is not all about the money.

People forget because of the money.

Ask those tradpols in power today.

[Monseratto]

[Monseratto]

Area around YMCA in Tsim sha Tsui in Kowloon near Poly U... And the people who did this needed ther Mamas to rescue them, no accountability for the millions in damages they caused.

[shadow]

Ano ba effect sa Pilipinas? Actually I'm so amazed by their resolution.

Siguro si big brother. Halos ma heart attack na sa gigil dahil wala siyang magawa. Gustong gusto na niya patayin siguro.



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[heavenlee]

Hong Kong Polytechnic University: Protesters still inside as standoff continues - BBC News



Violence begets (more) violence -- spinning out of control.

"Campuses had remained relatively free of violence during the Hong Kong protests - despite the movement being led mainly by students and young people.

But after the death of a 22-year-old student , that changed.

Last week, the Chinese University of Hong Kong (CUHK) became a battleground .

Police say protesters threw petrol bombs on a major road near the university in an effort to stop traffic. Officers attempted to reclaim the road, leading to major clashes. "

[minicarph]

I find it interesting that my Facebook social network (mostly millennials) and Tsikot (mostly middle-aged men) have very different views on the Hong Kong struggle today.

Historically, revolutions have been waged mostly by the youth. They have the enegy, the idealism, and will suffer the oppression the longest. On the other end of the spectrum, even if older folks are dissatisfied with the system, they have far too much to lose if they shake up the status quo. This holds not just for HK but for many other revolutions going on today and in the past.

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alam ko naman uls kumbskit andami hugot ng mga kabataan, kasi talaga sila ang sadalo ng mga inutang ng mas matatanda, they will pay more for food, cars, and other necessities in life.

Dati meron pa jollibee meal na tig P35 and mcdo meal about the same, ngaun P100 na di pa sial mabusog, dati you can have SUVs at the price of 1M

Kaya nga nun malaman ko na ako magbabayad ng mga utang ng mas matanda sa eh di nangutang na din ako. Eh unahan lang naman sa experience yan, if you can experience the newly open restos, travel and mga sosyal na damit utangin mo na coz baka hinde mo na makuuha pa if you work ass off later in life,


Mali talaga sistema sa mundo, the Gen X babied too much of their children only to face our world with higher prices and cost of living.

Kung ako magkaanak, i-train ko sya like Batman not yun kung pano pinalaki ang mga millennials, so hayun puros hugot ang nangyari.

The world is never a pleasant place no matter how the parents paint it. It’s a very cruel world where self-interests are the true dominant emotion. After self-interest, is the race. The race to experience first, as what ai mentioned above,

Pay yourself first, yan ang sinabi ni Kiyosaki na hinde-hinde ko makakalimutan when I read his book during my 20s. Now Kiyosaki is close to being locked up, and most of his disciples are materialistic old Gen Xers who accumulated stuff of no value .

Iba kasi pagkaintinde ko sa Pay yourself first eh , buti na lang mali interpret ko.

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Now the millenials know that what they read everyday in the internet hinde nila ma experience in real life coz the numbers wont match, and that is why nag rerevolt sila.